I Can Prove That YOU Trust Your "Government".

[PredFan]

If you can't trust the people making decisions on behalf of the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, process and distribute those resources as wealth, and track the activity, the only other option is to trust the 'government' and the the people that You The People hire to regulate the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, create and distribute wealth, and track the activity.

Government is a tool that We, The People use to ensure that all the fine print on all the paperwork generated by 21st Century life in America is reasonable and fair. It's effectiveness and efficiency is up to Us.

Do you read and understand all of the fine print on everything you sign, or do you trust your government?

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I don't read it, I trust the companies I deal with. I do not trust the government. You failed.

You trust mysterious people making decisions behind the veil of corporate paperwork that can be bought and sold on a Hong Kong stock exchange or one in Quatar over a comparatively transparent organization that you have a vote in?


That's weird in my average opinion Bud, but if it helps you to sleep at night, I support your right to be weird.

You trust in government is obvious. I trust a company way more because for the most part they have to treat their customers well or they have no more business. The government, which is far from transparent, cannot be trusted at all.

 

[PredFan]

It's not "our" federal government it's the career politicians "government"... No you can never trust it.

I don't trust anyone outside my personal circle, and even some of them are questionable.

So.... does this mean you guys have read and understood every corporate document that you've ever signed?

Color me impressed, if true ​

The government has nothing to do with any contracts you sign

None at all? I don't think that's right. Mind you, I don't know for sure.

The only time the courts (government ) gets involved with any contracts is when there is a dispute and someone sues

And you have to pay someone to argue on your behalf so really it's the attorneys you are trusting

I think what the OP means are government regulations which can lead to the fine print on contracts. If that isn't what he means then I'd have to agree with you.

 

[AVG-JOE]

It's not "our" federal government it's the career politicians "government"... No you can never trust it.

I don't trust anyone outside my personal circle, and even some of them are questionable.

So.... does this mean you guys have read and understood every corporate document that you've ever signed?

Color me impressed, if true ​

The government has nothing to do with any contracts you sign

'Cept of course the enforcement thereof.....

 

[LordBrownTrout]

It's not "our" federal government it's the career politicians "government"... No you can never trust it.

So... that's it?

We, The Peeps, is done?!?

Is there nothing we can do, folks?

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This experiment is declining and heading into the abyss. We're near the bondage part of the cycle.....almost full circle.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's not "our" federal government it's the career politicians "government"... No you can never trust it.

I don't trust anyone outside my personal circle, and even some of them are questionable.

So.... does this mean you guys have read and understood every corporate document that you've ever signed?

Color me impressed, if true ​

The government has nothing to do with any contracts you sign

'Cept of course the enforcement thereof.....

How so? I had to sue a customer for not paying, won the case yet the government was of no help. I had to hire a law firm to collect.

 

[AVG-JOE]

If you can't trust the people making decisions on behalf of the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, process and distribute those resources as wealth, and track the activity, the only other option is to trust the 'government' and the the people that You The People hire to regulate the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, create and distribute wealth, and track the activity.

Government is a tool that We, The People use to ensure that all the fine print on all the paperwork generated by 21st Century life in America is reasonable and fair. It's effectiveness and efficiency is up to Us.

Do you read and understand all of the fine print on everything you sign, or do you trust your government?

​

I don't read it, I trust the companies I deal with. I do not trust the government. You failed.

You trust mysterious people making decisions behind the veil of corporate paperwork that can be bought and sold on a Hong Kong stock exchange or one in Quatar over a comparatively transparent organization that you have a vote in?


That's weird in my average opinion Bud, but if it helps you to sleep at night, I support your right to be weird.

One thing you are overlooking is that in large corporations there is a marriage between government and business. They take care of each other, it's a symbiotic relationship. And it's been growing.

Small business doesn't work that way and tends to be more local. If they don't provide the goods or services people want they go belly up, so I "trust" them more than government in that way because they are responsive to the people. Government largely is not. Even at a city level you, the tax payer, are there for their benefit, not the other way around.

Government is not the problem... Government is just a tool. The problem is Monkey Business.

 

[Iceweasel]

If you can't trust the people making decisions on behalf of the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, process and distribute those resources as wealth, and track the activity, the only other option is to trust the 'government' and the the people that You The People hire to regulate the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, create and distribute wealth, and track the activity.

Government is a tool that We, The People use to ensure that all the fine print on all the paperwork generated by 21st Century life in America is reasonable and fair. It's effectiveness and efficiency is up to Us.

Do you read and understand all of the fine print on everything you sign, or do you trust your government?

​

I don't read it, I trust the companies I deal with. I do not trust the government. You failed.

You trust mysterious people making decisions behind the veil of corporate paperwork that can be bought and sold on a Hong Kong stock exchange or one in Quatar over a comparatively transparent organization that you have a vote in?


That's weird in my average opinion Bud, but if it helps you to sleep at night, I support your right to be weird.

One thing you are overlooking is that in large corporations there is a marriage between government and business. They take care of each other, it's a symbiotic relationship. And it's been growing.

Small business doesn't work that way and tends to be more local. If they don't provide the goods or services people want they go belly up, so I "trust" them more than government in that way because they are responsive to the people. Government largely is not. Even at a city level you, the tax payer, are there for their benefit, not the other way around.

Government is not the problem... Government is just a tool. The problem is Monkey Business.

To you government is not the problem but you don't speak for me.

 

[AVG-JOE]

If you can't trust the people making decisions on behalf of the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, process and distribute those resources as wealth, and track the activity, the only other option is to trust the 'government' and the the people that You The People hire to regulate the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, create and distribute wealth, and track the activity.

Government is a tool that We, The People use to ensure that all the fine print on all the paperwork generated by 21st Century life in America is reasonable and fair. It's effectiveness and efficiency is up to Us.

Do you read and understand all of the fine print on everything you sign, or do you trust your government?

​

I don't read it, I trust the companies I deal with. I do not trust the government. You failed.

You trust mysterious people making decisions behind the veil of corporate paperwork that can be bought and sold on a Hong Kong stock exchange or one in Quatar over a comparatively transparent organization that you have a vote in?


That's weird in my average opinion Bud, but if it helps you to sleep at night, I support your right to be weird.

You trust in government is obvious. I trust a company way more because for the most part they have to treat their customers well or they have no more business. The government, which is far from transparent, cannot be trusted at all.

And that is why the child labor laws and the environmental protection rules and the banking regulations enacted in the 20th Century were so ineffective in the United States.

Sarcasm ROCKS!! ​

 

[AVG-JOE]

It's not "our" federal government it's the career politicians "government"... No you can never trust it.

I don't trust anyone outside my personal circle, and even some of them are questionable.

So.... does this mean you guys have read and understood every corporate document that you've ever signed?

Color me impressed, if true ​

The government has nothing to do with any contracts you sign

None at all? I don't think that's right. Mind you, I don't know for sure.

The only time the courts (government ) gets involved with any contracts is when there is a dispute and someone sues

And you have to pay someone to argue on your behalf so really it's the attorneys you are trusting

I think what the OP means are government regulations which can lead to the fine print on contracts. If that isn't what he means then I'd have to agree with you.

I mean all of it....

Monkey to Monkey fine print enforced by government...

Monkey to Corporate / Corporate to Monkey fine print enforced by government...

Corporate to Corporate and all of us to Government fine print enforced by government.
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Government is a tool. The effectiveness of that tool is up to Us.

Did you know that the government still won't imprison Monkeys who owe money to Corporations and / or other Monkeys?!?

Life is good!​

 

[AVG-JOE]

Do you really think that banks and other corporations don't pursue debtors criminally because they're nice?

 

[SwimExpert]

This thread would never result in infractions for any non-mod.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Do you really think that banks and other corporations don't pursue debtors criminally because they're nice?

Our govt is 20 trillion in debt. Good thing govt voted against debtor prisons huh.....or else our entire govt would be in prison.

 

[PredFan]

If you can't trust the people making decisions on behalf of the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, process and distribute those resources as wealth, and track the activity, the only other option is to trust the 'government' and the the people that You The People hire to regulate the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, create and distribute wealth, and track the activity.

Government is a tool that We, The People use to ensure that all the fine print on all the paperwork generated by 21st Century life in America is reasonable and fair. It's effectiveness and efficiency is up to Us.

Do you read and understand all of the fine print on everything you sign, or do you trust your government?

​

I don't read it, I trust the companies I deal with. I do not trust the government. You failed.

You trust mysterious people making decisions behind the veil of corporate paperwork that can be bought and sold on a Hong Kong stock exchange or one in Quatar over a comparatively transparent organization that you have a vote in?


That's weird in my average opinion Bud, but if it helps you to sleep at night, I support your right to be weird.

You trust in government is obvious. I trust a company way more because for the most part they have to treat their customers well or they have no more business. The government, which is far from transparent, cannot be trusted at all.

And that is why the child labor laws and the environmental protection rules and the banking regulations enacted in the 20th Century were so ineffective in the United States.

Sarcasm ROCKS!! ​

Irrelevant to today and your argument in the OP. Sarcasm does rock, but when your wrong, it falls flat.

 

[PredFan]

If a bank loans me money and I say "fuck you I'm not paying it back", how is that any different than theft?

 

[PredFan]

My answer to the OP remains the same. I do not read the fine print because I trust the companies I do business with. I do not trust the government at all.

 

[HUGGY]

It's not "our" federal government it's the career politicians "government"... No you can never trust it.

So... that's it?

We, The Peeps, is done?!?

Is there nothing we can do, folks?

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The special interests stole trillions in 2006-2009 and wrecked the world's economy. How many of them are in prison?

And now you expect America to trust in government?

 

[AVG-JOE]

It's not "our" federal government it's the career politicians "government"... No you can never trust it.

I don't trust anyone outside my personal circle, and even some of them are questionable.

So.... does this mean you guys have read and understood every corporate document that you've ever signed?

Color me impressed, if true ​

The government has nothing to do with any contracts you sign

'Cept of course the enforcement thereof.....

How so? I had to sue a customer for not paying, won the case yet the government was of no help. I had to hire a law firm to collect.

One of the reasons the founders left England and started something new was because the king's army in England was incarcerating people on behalf of the rich assholes that were fool enough to give them credit in the first place.

They felt like protecting rich assholes was not the job of the government, while protecting consumers and the interests of The State was.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's not "our" federal government it's the career politicians "government"... No you can never trust it.

I don't trust anyone outside my personal circle, and even some of them are questionable.

So.... does this mean you guys have read and understood every corporate document that you've ever signed?

Color me impressed, if true ​

The government has nothing to do with any contracts you sign

'Cept of course the enforcement thereof.....

How so? I had to sue a customer for not paying, won the case yet the government was of no help. I had to hire a law firm to collect.

One of the reasons the founders left England and started something new was because the king's army in England was incarcerating people on behalf of the rich assholes that were fool enough to give them credit in the first place.

They felt like protecting rich assholes was not the job of the government, while protecting consumers and the interests of The State was.

You pulled that right out of your ass. The founders didn't leave England and start the USA. Most were born here, I believe all but they rebelled against the heavy handed tax authorities across the pond who increasingly wanted a piece of the American pie as it became obvious what a cash cow it was.

Most we businessmen and wealthy. Even John Adams was well off as a lawyer. Try again.

 

[AVG-JOE]

If you can't trust the people making decisions on behalf of the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, process and distribute those resources as wealth, and track the activity, the only other option is to trust the 'government' and the the people that You The People hire to regulate the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, create and distribute wealth, and track the activity.

Government is a tool that We, The People use to ensure that all the fine print on all the paperwork generated by 21st Century life in America is reasonable and fair. It's effectiveness and efficiency is up to Us.

Do you read and understand all of the fine print on everything you sign, or do you trust your government?

​

I don't read it, I trust the companies I deal with. I do not trust the government. You failed.

You trust mysterious people making decisions behind the veil of corporate paperwork that can be bought and sold on a Hong Kong stock exchange or one in Quatar over a comparatively transparent organization that you have a vote in?


That's weird in my average opinion Bud, but if it helps you to sleep at night, I support your right to be weird.

One thing you are overlooking is that in large corporations there is a marriage between government and business. They take care of each other, it's a symbiotic relationship. And it's been growing.

Small business doesn't work that way and tends to be more local. If they don't provide the goods or services people want they go belly up, so I "trust" them more than government in that way because they are responsive to the people. Government largely is not. Even at a city level you, the tax payer, are there for their benefit, not the other way around.

Government is not the problem... Government is just a tool. The problem is Monkey Business.

To you government is not the problem but you don't speak for me.

Yup. That's why conversation is gold.

 

[kaz]

If you can't trust the people making decisions on behalf of the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, process and distribute those resources as wealth, and track the activity, the only other option is to trust the 'government' and the the people that You The People hire to regulate the profit driven corporations that you've assembled to harvest the resources, create and distribute wealth, and track the activity.

Government is a tool that We, The People use to ensure that all the fine print on all the paperwork generated by 21st Century life in America is reasonable and fair. It's effectiveness and efficiency is up to Us.

Do you read and understand all of the fine print on everything you sign, or do you trust your government?

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You don't trust people who have to compete to get your business, you trust people who have no competition and a monopoly on guns to make your choices for you. Wow, a rocket scientist ... not.

Government makes things "reasonable and fair," Yeah ...