How much can renewable energy save us?

[Toddsterpatriot]

wind is not feasible without the tax subsidies.

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need. Coal is not infinite. I would think we would want to conserve coal and oil

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need.

If it's more expensive and less reliable, why is renewable a selling point?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance

Capacitance is the ability of a body to store an electric charge.

Hmmmmm.....you think substations are storing electric charge?

We may have discovered your area of greatest ignorance.

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

 

[mamooth]

Any nuclear engineer will tell you that a molten salt reactor will be cheaper and safer than any reactor we have had running at scale

Cheaper? Horseshit.

Any nuclear engineer will tell you molten salt reactors have the uranium dissolved in the molten salt. That means a complex nuclear chemistry facility would have to be present at every site, to constantly remove fission products and add more uranium to the molten salt. That rules out molten salt reactors being economically feasible at anything except very large scales. Miniature molten salt reactors? Not a chance in hell.

 

[Old Rocks]

My position is, that climate change happens, regardless of Man's input to the environment.

We merely need more, Perfect Knowledge of Things, that can help us live anywhere on Earth, regardless of climate change. Science fiction has a model, with the Stargate Atlantis series.

so you're a denier
good to know

if you don't think people hae anything to do with climate change then why do you care about wind power so much?

My position is, that climate change happens, regardless of Man's input to the environment.

wind power is simply that, dear.

why not just burn coal, gas and oil if emissions don't matter then we wouldn't have to spend any money upgrading the grid and we could end all tax subsidies for wind and solar and save billions of dollars a year

if it were that easy; we would be resorting to our Commerce Clause and improving infrastructure in the Middle East, to lower our cost of fuels.

the right wing prefers their fantasy "game theory" of a "common offense" and "general warfare"; and, complain about Taxes instead of being, Patriotic. That is why.

Do you ever listen to yourself? You want to end the war on drugs because it costs too much but you want to give huge tax subsidies for wind power even though you deny that emissions have anything to do with climate change and you want to improve the infrastructure of foreign countries

what the fuck are you on?

What the fuck are you on? I have already stated that the subsidies are no longer needed. The corporations will put in wind and solar now on the basis of economics. However, the subsidies will now vastly increase their profit margins, so they have their lobbyists there trying to extend the subsidies just as long as they can.

 

[Skull Pilot]

so you're a denier
good to know

if you don't think people hae anything to do with climate change then why do you care about wind power so much?

My position is, that climate change happens, regardless of Man's input to the environment.

wind power is simply that, dear.

why not just burn coal, gas and oil if emissions don't matter then we wouldn't have to spend any money upgrading the grid and we could end all tax subsidies for wind and solar and save billions of dollars a year

if it were that easy; we would be resorting to our Commerce Clause and improving infrastructure in the Middle East, to lower our cost of fuels.

the right wing prefers their fantasy "game theory" of a "common offense" and "general warfare"; and, complain about Taxes instead of being, Patriotic. That is why.

Do you ever listen to yourself? You want to end the war on drugs because it costs too much but you want to give huge tax subsidies for wind power even though you deny that emissions have anything to do with climate change and you want to improve the infrastructure of foreign countries

what the fuck are you on?

the side of Capitalism?

I don't think so.

 

[Skull Pilot]

wind is not feasible without the tax subsidies.

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need. Coal is not infinite. I would think we would want to conserve coal and oil

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need.

If it's more expensive and less reliable, why is renewable a selling point?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

substations do not have capacitance you idiot. Do you even know what a capacitor is?

An electrical substation is a transformer where power is either stepped up in voltage for transmission over long distance power lines or stepped down before it is sent over local electric lines to the end user in the home

substations can include capacitance, dear; it is the reason for the structure.

No.

You have to realize that just because you say something doesn't mean it's true
But why don't you show me a link to a substation that has capacitance?

 

[Skull Pilot]

so you're a denier
good to know

if you don't think people hae anything to do with climate change then why do you care about wind power so much?

My position is, that climate change happens, regardless of Man's input to the environment.

wind power is simply that, dear.

why not just burn coal, gas and oil if emissions don't matter then we wouldn't have to spend any money upgrading the grid and we could end all tax subsidies for wind and solar and save billions of dollars a year

if it were that easy; we would be resorting to our Commerce Clause and improving infrastructure in the Middle East, to lower our cost of fuels.

the right wing prefers their fantasy "game theory" of a "common offense" and "general warfare"; and, complain about Taxes instead of being, Patriotic. That is why.

Do you ever listen to yourself? You want to end the war on drugs because it costs too much but you want to give huge tax subsidies for wind power even though you deny that emissions have anything to do with climate change and you want to improve the infrastructure of foreign countries

what the fuck are you on?

What the fuck are you on? I have already stated that the subsidies are no longer needed. The corporations will put in wind and solar now on the basis of economics. However, the subsidies will now vastly increase their profit margins, so they have their lobbyists there trying to extend the subsidies just as long as they can.

really no longer needed?

then why do they still exist?

Take all the subsidies out of the equation and then run your cost analysis in actual output not installed capacity then take into account that all those windmills will have to be replaced every 20 years

 

[Skull Pilot]

Any nuclear engineer will tell you that a molten salt reactor will be cheaper and safer than any reactor we have had running at scale

Cheaper? Horseshit.

Any nuclear engineer will tell you molten salt reactors have the uranium dissolved in the molten salt. That means a complex nuclear chemistry facility would have to be present at every site, to constantly remove fission products and add more uranium to the molten salt. That rules out molten salt reactors being economically feasible at anything except very large scales. Miniature molten salt reactors? Not a chance in hell.

then again there are already proposed designs to address that

A simple and “SMAHTR” way to build a molten salt reactor, from Canada - The Alvin Weinberg Foundation

Terrestrial’s design calls for a single fluid reactor that would “burn” rather than breed. In the nuclear lexicon, LeBlanc’s reactor is known as a “burner” or a “converter”, not a “breeder.”

this design change makes it possible to make the reactors smaller

why do you people like to ignore design innovation ?

 

[danielpalos]

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need. Coal is not infinite. I would think we would want to conserve coal and oil

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need.

If it's more expensive and less reliable, why is renewable a selling point?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance

Capacitance is the ability of a body to store an electric charge.

Hmmmmm.....you think substations are storing electric charge?

We may have discovered your area of greatest ignorance.

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

 

[danielpalos]

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need. Coal is not infinite. I would think we would want to conserve coal and oil

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need.

If it's more expensive and less reliable, why is renewable a selling point?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

substations do not have capacitance you idiot. Do you even know what a capacitor is?

An electrical substation is a transformer where power is either stepped up in voltage for transmission over long distance power lines or stepped down before it is sent over local electric lines to the end user in the home

substations can include capacitance, dear; it is the reason for the structure.

No.

You have to realize that just because you say something doesn't mean it's true
But why don't you show me a link to a substation that has capacitance?

Upgrading could make it true. It won't be free, but neither are our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need.

If it's more expensive and less reliable, why is renewable a selling point?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance

Capacitance is the ability of a body to store an electric charge.

Hmmmmm.....you think substations are storing electric charge?

We may have discovered your area of greatest ignorance.

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

 

[danielpalos]

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance

Capacitance is the ability of a body to store an electric charge.

Hmmmmm.....you think substations are storing electric charge?

We may have discovered your area of greatest ignorance.

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

not sure of any; but, there are some experiments in progress.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance

Capacitance is the ability of a body to store an electric charge.

Hmmmmm.....you think substations are storing electric charge?

We may have discovered your area of greatest ignorance.

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

not sure of any; but, there are some experiments in progress.

Cool. Link to a substation capacitance experiment.

 

[Skull Pilot]

But it's cleaner and renewable. We have all the wind we need.

If it's more expensive and less reliable, why is renewable a selling point?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

substations do not have capacitance you idiot. Do you even know what a capacitor is?

An electrical substation is a transformer where power is either stepped up in voltage for transmission over long distance power lines or stepped down before it is sent over local electric lines to the end user in the home

substations can include capacitance, dear; it is the reason for the structure.

No.

You have to realize that just because you say something doesn't mean it's true
But why don't you show me a link to a substation that has capacitance?

Upgrading could make it true. It won't be free, but neither are our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

no

we don't need to make substations giant capacitors we need a reliable supply of steady power

 

[Skull Pilot]

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance

Capacitance is the ability of a body to store an electric charge.

Hmmmmm.....you think substations are storing electric charge?

We may have discovered your area of greatest ignorance.

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

not sure of any; but, there are some experiments in progress.

Cool. Link to a substation capacitance experiment.

good luck trying to get DP to link to anything he says

 

[danielpalos]

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

not sure of any; but, there are some experiments in progress.

Cool. Link to a substation capacitance experiment.

Any form of grid energy storage could be housed in a substation structure. Subground should be an option for substations.

Grid energy storage - Wikipedia

 

[danielpalos]

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

substations do not have capacitance you idiot. Do you even know what a capacitor is?

An electrical substation is a transformer where power is either stepped up in voltage for transmission over long distance power lines or stepped down before it is sent over local electric lines to the end user in the home

substations can include capacitance, dear; it is the reason for the structure.

No.

You have to realize that just because you say something doesn't mean it's true
But why don't you show me a link to a substation that has capacitance?

Upgrading could make it true. It won't be free, but neither are our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

no

we don't need to make substations giant capacitors we need a reliable supply of steady power

substations with capacitance can store energy for more reliable and consistent output, regardless of variability in any given location. Besides, the wind is always blowing somewhere. A better grid can harness that energy.

 

[danielpalos]

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance

Capacitance is the ability of a body to store an electric charge.

Hmmmmm.....you think substations are storing electric charge?

We may have discovered your area of greatest ignorance.

it is for the common defense.

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

not sure of any; but, there are some experiments in progress.

Cool. Link to a substation capacitance experiment.

good luck trying to get DP to link to anything he says

all we need do, is house the equipment in a structure.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

not sure of any; but, there are some experiments in progress.

Cool. Link to a substation capacitance experiment.

Any form of grid energy storage could be housed in a substation structure. Subground should be an option for substations.

Grid energy storage - Wikipedia

So you were lying before when you said we already had this. Thanks for admitting your lie.

 

[there4eyeM]

Pump water up with excess energy, let gravity work in times of dearth.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Your ignorance helps with the common defense?

It is why we need a better grid with better substations that have better capacitance.

How much capacitance does each substation have now?

not sure of any; but, there are some experiments in progress.

Cool. Link to a substation capacitance experiment.

Any form of grid energy storage could be housed in a substation structure. Subground should be an option for substations.

Grid energy storage - Wikipedia

backpedal all you want a substation is not now nor will it ever grid storage