How Many Days Until Someone Sues Mandalay Bay?

A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Yeah, because every hotel should be fully aware of 100% of the contents of everyone's luggage. This is exactly the retarded logic I'm talking about. You should be a tort attorney.

You have tunnel vision based on what you want to believe. You don't think rationally with the big picture as the background. You have a view of something and you force reality into that box. Reality doesn't work that way sorry.

You really don't think someone is going to hold this hotel to some responsibility for allowing a tenant to bring that size arsenal into a room? You live in fantasy land. If it were one or two weapons maybe. 20? With the ammunition? If not 20 what is the number for you? 50? 100? If this guy were a Muslim member of Isis with that arsenal in that room people would be losing their shit over it.
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Better question is how long until the next mass slaughter that is endorsed by the NRA, Republicans, and gun manufacturers. And then the next. And the next. This gun cult has no problem with this becoming the new norm for the US.

The only real question is what is the number that will cause the American public to say "that is it, enough, this has to change". 500 dead? 1,000? Is there a number? Certainly if a nuclear weapon were detonated in a major city that would be enough to force change. So the number is somewhere between 60 and 2,000,000. But what is it.
Does it hurt being this stupid? Guns aren't the problem, and you know it. There are several cities with lots of guns and low crime rates. It's a fact. Guns do not cause crime. People do.
 
You know it's coming. Who will be the first ones to try and cash in on the death of a family member by suing the casino Paddock shot from?
A woman got $1,000,000 dollars from McDonalds, because like the stupid liberal that she is, she put hot coffee between her legs and then drove off. 50 innocent young men and women lost their lives, and the fucker was on the 32 floor of that hotel.

Actually, that woman won her case because McDonalds kept their coffee way overheated, beyond a safe level. They also knew the coffee was at an unsafe temperature, but did it anyway. She was burned over 16% of her body, including third degree burns on 6%.

A jury awarded her $200,000 in compensatory damages and $2.7 million in putative, or 2 days of McDonalds; coffee sales. That was reduced substantially, then eventually the case was settled for an unknown amount.

Supposedly, the woman originally asked for $20,000 and McDonalds rejected that.

The Actual Facts about the Mcdonalds' Coffee Case
McDonalds Coffee Case Facts | Texas Trial Lawyers Association

There are plenty of frivolous lawsuits out there, and there may well be some from the Las Vegas shooting. Stella Liebeck's McDonalds suit does not appear to be such a frivolous suit.
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Yeah, because every hotel should be fully aware of 100% of the contents of everyone's luggage. This is exactly the retarded logic I'm talking about. You should be a tort attorney.

You have tunnel vision based on what you want to believe. You don't think rationally with the big picture as the background. You have a view of something and you force reality into that box. Reality doesn't work that way sorry.

You really don't think someone is going to hold this hotel to some responsibility for allowing a tenant to bring that size arsenal into a room? You live in fantasy land. If it were one or two weapons maybe. 20? With the ammunition? If not 20 what is the number for you? 50? 100? If this guy were a Muslim member of Isis with that arsenal in that room people would be losing their shit over it.
So, how was the Hotel negligent? They do not search peoples luggage. There is no law requiring that they do so.The only one culpable is the shooter.The Hotel had no way of knowing what was about to happen. How could they?
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Better question is how long until the next mass slaughter that is endorsed by the NRA, Republicans, and gun manufacturers. And then the next. And the next. This gun cult has no problem with this becoming the new norm for the US.

The only real question is what is the number that will cause the American public to say "that is it, enough, this has to change". 500 dead? 1,000? Is there a number? Certainly if a nuclear weapon were detonated in a major city that would be enough to force change. So the number is somewhere between 60 and 2,000,000. But what is it.
Does it hurt being this stupid? Guns aren't the problem, and you know it. There are several cities with lots of guns and low crime rates. It's a fact. Guns do not cause crime. People do.

Ah yes, and people armed with rocks are going to slaughter 60 people and wound 500 more. You cling dearly to your fantasy and I don't have a crowbar large enough to pry it away from you and I won't try. Have a nice day Percy.
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Better question is how long until the next mass slaughter that is endorsed by the NRA, Republicans, and gun manufacturers. And then the next. And the next. This gun cult has no problem with this becoming the new norm for the US.

The only real question is what is the number that will cause the American public to say "that is it, enough, this has to change". 500 dead? 1,000? Is there a number? Certainly if a nuclear weapon were detonated in a major city that would be enough to force change. So the number is somewhere between 60 and 2,000,000. But what is it.
Does it hurt being this stupid? Guns aren't the problem, and you know it. There are several cities with lots of guns and low crime rates. It's a fact. Guns do not cause crime. People do.

Ah yes, and people armed with rocks are going to slaughter 60 people and wound 500 more. You cling dearly to your fantasy and I don't have a crowbar large enough to pry it away from you and I won't try. Have a nice day Percy.
You're blaming the guns, like a good little liberal. As already stated, there are areas with a large number of guns but a low crime rate. This refutes your argument. The vast majority of violent crime happens in 5 percent of the counties in this country. Over 90 percent of that is the result of blacks. So, we don't have a gun problem. We have a black problem. Those are the facts.
 
A woman got $1,000,000 dollars from McDonalds, because like the stupid liberal that she is, she put hot coffee between her legs and then drove off. 50 innocent young men and women lost their lives, and the fucker was on the 32 floor of that hotel.

The woman who got a million from McDonalds got that because McDonald's had been warned on numerous occasions that their coffee was too hot for human consumption. She initially asked for just her medical expenses. The reason why they got slapped was because of their own intransigence.

"Know the Facts:" Resources for Consumers

The coffee was not just “hot,” but dangerously hot. McDonald’s corporate policy was to serve it at a temperature that could cause serious burns in seconds. Mrs. Liebeck’s injuries were far from frivolous. She was wearing sweatpants that absorbed the coffee and kept it against her skin. She suffered third-degree burns (the most serious kind) and required skin grafts on her inner thighs and elsewhere.

Liebeck’s case was far from an isolated event. McDonald’s had received more than 700 previous reports of injury from its coffee, including reports of third-degree burns, and had paid settlements in some cases.

Mrs. Liebeck offered to settle the case for $20,000 to cover her medical expenses and lost income. But McDonald’s never offered more than $800, so the case went to trial. The jury found Mrs. Liebeck to be partially at fault for her injuries, reducing the compensation for her injuries accordingly. But the jury’s punitive damages award made headlines — upset by McDonald’s unwillingness to correct a policy despite hundreds of people suffering injuries, they awarded Liebeck the equivalent of two days’ worth of revenue from coffee sales for the restaurant chain. That wasn’t, however, the end of it. The original punitive damage award was ultimately reduced by more than 80 percent by the judge. And, to avoid what likely would have been years of appeals, Mrs. Liebeck and McDonald’s later reached a confidential settlement.

You see what happens when you get your truth from Hate Radio, andy?
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Better question is how long until the next mass slaughter that is endorsed by the NRA, Republicans, and gun manufacturers. And then the next. And the next. This gun cult has no problem with this becoming the new norm for the US.

The only real question is what is the number that will cause the American public to say "that is it, enough, this has to change". 500 dead? 1,000? Is there a number? Certainly if a nuclear weapon were detonated in a major city that would be enough to force change. So the number is somewhere between 60 and 2,000,000. But what is it.
I don't think there is any number that will change it.
 
You know it's coming. Who will be the first ones to try and cash in on the death of a family member by suing the casino Paddock shot from?
A woman got $1,000,000 dollars from McDonalds, because like the stupid liberal that she is, she put hot coffee between her legs and then drove off. 50 innocent young men and women lost their lives, and the fucker was on the 32 floor of that hotel.

You are a retard under the mind control spell of "FAKE NEWS".

Does it suck to be stupid?
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Yeah, because every hotel should be fully aware of 100% of the contents of everyone's luggage. This is exactly the retarded logic I'm talking about. You should be a tort attorney.

You have tunnel vision based on what you want to believe. You don't think rationally with the big picture as the background. You have a view of something and you force reality into that box. Reality doesn't work that way sorry.

You really don't think someone is going to hold this hotel to some responsibility for allowing a tenant to bring that size arsenal into a room? You live in fantasy land. If it were one or two weapons maybe. 20? With the ammunition? If not 20 what is the number for you? 50? 100? If this guy were a Muslim member of Isis with that arsenal in that room people would be losing their shit over it.

How does the number of guns impact the hotel's liability here?

The relevant standard is "reasonable".

Is it reasonable to expect the hotel to inspect every bag that a guest brings in? Is it reasonable to expect that the hotel should inspect all 3,500 rooms for hidden weapons?
 
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A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Yeah, because every hotel should be fully aware of 100% of the contents of everyone's luggage. This is exactly the retarded logic I'm talking about. You should be a tort attorney.

You have tunnel vision based on what you want to believe. You don't think rationally with the big picture as the background. You have a view of something and you force reality into that box. Reality doesn't work that way sorry.

You really don't think someone is going to hold this hotel to some responsibility for allowing a tenant to bring that size arsenal into a room? You live in fantasy land. If it were one or two weapons maybe. 20? With the ammunition? If not 20 what is the number for you? 50? 100? If this guy were a Muslim member of Isis with that arsenal in that room people would be losing their shit over it.

Again, please enlighten us as to how they were supposed to know, Matlock.
 
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A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Better question is how long until the next mass slaughter that is endorsed by the NRA, Republicans, and gun manufacturers. And then the next. And the next. This gun cult has no problem with this becoming the new norm for the US.

The only real question is what is the number that will cause the American public to say "that is it, enough, this has to change". 500 dead? 1,000? Is there a number? Certainly if a nuclear weapon were detonated in a major city that would be enough to force change. So the number is somewhere between 60 and 2,000,000. But what is it.

Nobody has endorsed mass slaughter and your irrational rantings are precisely why you people keep losing this fight over and over. You claim to want "sensible" gun control, but then spout out nonsense like this and wonder why gun owners are suspicious of your true motives and won't budge on even the slightest restrictions.
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Better question is how long until the next mass slaughter that is endorsed by the NRA, Republicans, and gun manufacturers. And then the next. And the next. This gun cult has no problem with this becoming the new norm for the US.

The only real question is what is the number that will cause the American public to say "that is it, enough, this has to change". 500 dead? 1,000? Is there a number? Certainly if a nuclear weapon were detonated in a major city that would be enough to force change. So the number is somewhere between 60 and 2,000,000. But what is it.

Nobody has endorsed mass slaughter and your irrational rantings are precisely why you people keep losing this fight over and over. You claim to want "sensible" gun control, but then spout out nonsense like this and wonder why gun owners are suspicious of your true motives and won't budge on even the slightest restrictions.

Uh huh. Your emotions are 'you people' cling to guns. LIfe is too scarwwy for you. It isn't for school children, 70 million of whom go to school and live their lives without carrying a gun in this 'scawwry' world, but it is for 'you people'. There is no number for you. I already knew this. Your fear overrides all other considerations, which is the one completely conservative trait.

FEAR.
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Yeah, because every hotel should be fully aware of 100% of the contents of everyone's luggage. This is exactly the retarded logic I'm talking about. You should be a tort attorney.

You have tunnel vision based on what you want to believe. You don't think rationally with the big picture as the background. You have a view of something and you force reality into that box. Reality doesn't work that way sorry.

You really don't think someone is going to hold this hotel to some responsibility for allowing a tenant to bring that size arsenal into a room? You live in fantasy land. If it were one or two weapons maybe. 20? With the ammunition? If not 20 what is the number for you? 50? 100? If this guy were a Muslim member of Isis with that arsenal in that room people would be losing their shit over it.

How does the number of guns impact the hotel's liability here?

The relevant standard is "reasonable".

Is it reasonable to expect the hotel to inspect every bag that a guest brings in? Is it reasonable to expect that the hotel should inspect all 3,500 rooms for hidden weapons?

You don't think there will be lawsuits? And it will be deemed reasonable in court for the hotel to have suspected someone carrying in that many bags. I've already talked to a couple friends that are lawyers the last couple days and they say it is out of the ordinary enough to be questionable in court.
 
No reason for one person to be able to shoot 600 people in a few minutes. If you feel you have to defend yourself against 600, then you are the problem. The makers & sellers of rapid fire bump fire stocks should & will be sued. They are WMD's to cause mass casualties & death. Not accurate enough to target only bad guys & spare innocent people.
 
On what grounds do you expect them to sue?






The fact that they have deep pockets. Welcome to the wonderful world of tort law. Sue someone for nothing more than they have deep pockets and the lawyer hopes that the target will by them off with a nice fat settlement instead of fighting it in Court.
 
A hotel that allows someone to bring 20 high powered rifles to their hotel room and they have no responsibility? Not likely.

Better question is how long until the next mass slaughter that is endorsed by the NRA, Republicans, and gun manufacturers. And then the next. And the next. This gun cult has no problem with this becoming the new norm for the US.

The only real question is what is the number that will cause the American public to say "that is it, enough, this has to change". 500 dead? 1,000? Is there a number? Certainly if a nuclear weapon were detonated in a major city that would be enough to force change. So the number is somewhere between 60 and 2,000,000. But what is it.

Nobody has endorsed mass slaughter and your irrational rantings are precisely why you people keep losing this fight over and over. You claim to want "sensible" gun control, but then spout out nonsense like this and wonder why gun owners are suspicious of your true motives and won't budge on even the slightest restrictions.

Uh huh. Your emotions are 'you people' cling to guns. LIfe is too scarwwy for you. It isn't for school children, 70 million of whom go to school and live their lives without carrying a gun in this 'scawwry' world, but it is for 'you people'. There is no number for you. I already knew this. Your fear overrides all other considerations, which is the one completely conservative trait.

FEAR.





Not fear. Well known, historical FACT. It is the nature of governments to go through cycles. The Founders have made it possible for the cycle to be interrupted. The next phase for this country is an authoritarian dictatorship. So long as the People have the guns, there will be no dictatorship. But it's just a few short years away I fear, and then the bloodletting will really begin.

As horrible as this act was, just add government to it and this will be a daily occurrence. History tells us this is so.
 
Be thankful the fucker used a gun.....being creative he could have set up and detonated a bomb big enough to level a few floors and kill many more than he did.
 
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The only facts (as reported by the media) are; a) The guy was there for a two day county music festival and b) he had ten suitcases brought to his room. Eccentric? Perhaps but not enough arouse the suspicion of in-house security who are most likely looking for black and middle eastern males.
 

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