How low will American democracy go before we implode?

David2004

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Will we become a military police state similar to our former enemies that we fought during the Cold War? Are we so brainwashed as American by propaganda that we no longer understand the realities of the world around us. As we create more enemies than allies with our foreign policies are we any safer or more secure as a nation. Our federal government?s leaders have made great mistakes in the past and are only making them worst by telling more lies to the American people. Most American people are buying these lies wanting to be good American citizens making the situation even worst. Not until we as people in our nation wake-up to the truth to the realities in the world around us will things get any better. Our Federal government leaders are saying one thing while doing the complete opposite to what they are saying, are leading us into disaster. Whether it is the state of the economy, our foreign policies or why we are doing what we are doing it is a complete sham that only the white American people are buying. The great divide between what the American people perceive as the truth and reality and the way most of the other people in the world perceive things is only getting worst.
 
David2004 said:
Will we become a military police state similar to our former enemies that we fought during the Cold War?
How would you liken the US to a USSR type of military state?
Are we so brainwashed as American by propaganda that we no longer understand the realities of the world around us.
Have you been reading any of the posts? Which members do you feel are brainwashed? Someone that acknowledges successes and failures of an administration? Someone that parrots talking points, but you agree with? Which?
As we create more enemies than allies with our foreign policies are we any safer or more secure as a nation.
I assume that should have been a question mark. Are we speaking of France, Germany, and Russia? The 19 public coalition members? The dozen or so more Arab states helping on the quiet? Which?
Our federal government?s leaders have made great mistakes in the past and are only making them worst by telling more lies to the American people. Most American people are buying these lies wanting to be good American citizens making the situation even worst. Not until we as people in our nation wake-up to the truth to the realities in the world around us will things get any better.
Hey sport, we need to know what you are speaking of here, WMD perhaps?
Our Federal government leaders are saying one thing while doing the complete opposite to what they are saying, are leading us into disaster. Whether it is the state of the economy, our foreign policies or why we are doing what we are doing it is a complete sham that only the white American people are buying. The great divide between what the American people perceive as the truth and reality and the way most of the other people in the world perceive things is only getting worst.
Some wrap up, but no point. Really, you can't just throw flaming words out, without come context, unless you want to be ignored? :shocked:
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Go kathianne!

:hail: :flameth:

:thewave:

:cheers2: :thanks: Wonder if he'll be back, he left pretty quickly? :eek2: Then again, maybe just time for work?
 
Americans cannot hear the truth about our foreign policies and the war for it threatens our national security. The talking heads in our mass media stay within the scripted lines of our government policies for there own job security. Anyone who questions the motives of our government policies and actions is sidelined, discredited, and banned from their voice being heard. Any nation controlled by warmongers is a threat to global peace and security especially if you?re a global military supper power. If one speaks out in behalf of peace you are made out to be an extremists by the warmongers in the establishment. They will not let the truth be heard for it threatens their jobs in the military industrial complex that is a cornerstone of the American economy that greatly influence over the American mass media.

By controlling what the American people read and hear they control the way most of them think and perceive the way things are. Anyone who questions our government position and policies will have the full wrath of our establishment come down on them. Howard Dean is one of the latest when he said we?re no safer as a nation with the capture of Saddam.
 
David2004 said:
Americans cannot hear the truth about our foreign policies and the war for it threatens our national security. The talking heads in our mass media stay within the scripted lines of our government policies for there own job security. Anyone who questions the motives of our government policies and actions is sidelined, discredited, and banned from their voice being heard. Any nation controlled by warmongers is a threat to global peace and security especially if you?re a global military supper power. If one speaks out in behalf of peace you are made out to be an extremists by the warmongers in the establishment. They will not let the truth be heard for it threatens their jobs in the military industrial complex that is a cornerstone of the American economy that greatly influence over the American mass media.

By controlling what the American people read and hear they control the way most of them think and perceive the way things are. Anyone who questions our government position and policies will have the full wrath of our establishment come down on them. Howard Dean is one of the latest when he said we?re no safer as a nation with the capture of Saddam.

Has anybody controlled what you have written here? If not, then your hypothesis holds no water.
 
Wow. Two fairly lengthy posts, both totally devoid of so much as a single fact. Keep it up. A few more like that and you'll have the record.
 
David2004 said:
Americans cannot hear the truth about our foreign policies and the war for it threatens our national security. The talking heads in our mass media stay within the scripted lines of our government policies for there own job security. Anyone who questions the motives of our government policies and actions is sidelined, discredited, and banned from their voice being heard. Any nation controlled by warmongers is a threat to global peace and security especially if you?re a global military supper power. If one speaks out in behalf of peace you are made out to be an extremists by the warmongers in the establishment. They will not let the truth be heard for it threatens their jobs in the military industrial complex that is a cornerstone of the American economy that greatly influence over the American mass media.

By controlling what the American people read and hear they control the way most of them think and perceive the way things are. Anyone who questions our government position and policies will have the full wrath of our establishment come down on them. Howard Dean is one of the latest when he said we?re no safer as a nation with the capture of Saddam.

You're either a high school freshman or a moonbat, either way, it's lowering our communal IQ.
 
Mr. P, I am happy to see you post the exclamation : "MORON." Reminds me of someone I knew............
 
Kathianne said:
either way, it's lowering our communal IQ.
I am reminded of the movie Billy Madison... "Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Hehe.

-Douglas
 
Shazbot said:
I am reminded of the movie Billy Madison... "Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Hehe.

-Douglas

Yup that's the sentiment, thank you for telling me where!
 
David2004 said:
How could your God the creator of life and nature be so intolerant of the ways of others in this world? To condemn so many people to hell for not believing in your beliefs, to kill or raise money in God?s name to enrich ones own life is the greater sin. With all of the knowledge and wisdom in the world to only take one of books the Bible, Koran or Torah for the truth and answers to the world?s problems is not very wise or holy. Those in power and control should be held to a higher level of accountability for the problems in the world. One should not past judgment onto another unless they are willing to be judged themselves.

With conflicting morals and values of one-system verses another systems a divide is created. Great fortunes of wealth are made on the exploitation of a political, economic and cultural divide between people. With religious leaders taking the higher ground with their extremist?s views and perspective deepening the human divide. The main role of the federal or national government is to provide physical security for the people within their nation. The government?s policies must keep in balance the role of religion and state as well as corporate and people?s rights within a society. Only by dissemination of knowledge, information, and wealth can a government of a society be responsible to the people it serves.

For one nation to dictate and control much of the global and military policies around the world often in the name of God is wrong. The great creator of the universal and the spirit of nature and earth would be so narrow minded as those who are preaching the words of God. People who lead us into wars over religious and political differences between nations of people are doing the devil?s work. Only by addressing the internal problems of a nation will there be a change for peace and security at home and aboard. Only by holding the same standards at home and aboard on all sides of the divide will we have peace and security around the world. A transparent multilateral platform must control any military actions taken by any one of the world?s global super power nations against any other another nation.

First, what the heck does God have to do with the conversation. Are you going to back up your original assertions or not?

Second, obviously you dont know anything about my God or you wouldnt make such ridiculous statements. Amazing how you can make such statements and then self righteously preach to us about judging others.
 
If the American people had a real choice in national elections maybe more than 50% of the eligible voters would vote. We are a democracy that is controlled by the major corporation?s elites. By the time a presidential canidate receive the nomination of either party they are one of the same. The American people are left with the choice of voting for the least of the two evils so most people choose not to participate. It is estimated that over a billion dollars will be spent on the 2004 presidential campaign with most of the money coming from the large corporations to protect their vested interests. Most of it being negative campaigning with no constructive criticism towards the real problem we face as a nation as we whitewash it with trivial stories. A great nation of people with no real depth of understanding to the real problems we face as a nation and world.
 
David2004 said:
If the American people had a real choice in national elections maybe more than 50% of the eligible voters would vote. We are a democracy that is controlled by the major corporation?s elites. By the time a presidential canidate receive the nomination of either party they are one of the same. The American people are left with the choice of voting for the least of the two evils so most people choose not to participate. It is estimated that over a billion dollars will be spent on the 2004 presidential campaign with most of the money coming from the large corporations to protect their vested interests. Most of it being negative campaigning with no constructive criticism towards the real problem we face as a nation as we whitewash it with trivial stories. A great nation of people with no real depth of understanding to the real problems we face as a nation and world.

Since you haven't bothered to respond to any points raised, going to keep this short. Links to how we are controlled by major corporations? In actuality, your vote has more impact than their dollars. The PAC's tend to give money equally to both major parties.
Who is your alternative candidate?
Much of that billion is soft money, much of it given in smaller amounts, with the noticable exception of George Soros.

How can you say 'a great nation of people' and 'with no real depth of understanding...' in the same sentence? You don't see they logic flaw?
 

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