How is government in way of Business??

[Quantum Windbag]

[The new business didn't make the mess, and is using a new process that cannot possibly result in said mess, yet they still have to comply with the regulations requiring them to prevent the mess someone else has already made, and to pay for cleaning up the mess they had nothing to do with.

I bet you think that makes sense.

What the hell are you talking about? That it should be the consumer to clean up the messes corporations make?? Or maybe it is the wrong business to be in and cannot accept the risks of being in business.

You claimed that a business should be required to pay up any mess it makes as justification for making them spend money to start a business, and then you think I do not make sense?

 

[MarcATL]

CON$ don't wan't to do nothing except call themselves a businessman, expect to make money and not pay taxes. They don't want to get certified, they don't want to save, they don't want to pay insurance, they don't want to pay their employees.

They want it so that any gap-toothed buck-toothed palooka name Jeb can uppn call humsulf a buznusmun and don't pay nerr pesky gubmunt taxes.

Buncha anarchist slackers!

 

[shintao]

[The new business didn't make the mess, and is using a new process that cannot possibly result in said mess, yet they still have to comply with the regulations requiring them to prevent the mess someone else has already made, and to pay for cleaning up the mess they had nothing to do with.

I bet you think that makes sense.

What the hell are you talking about? That it should be the consumer to clean up the messes corporations make?? Or maybe it is the wrong business to be in and cannot accept the risks of being in business.

You claimed that a business should be required to pay up any mess it makes as justification for making them spend money to start a business, and then you think I do not make sense?

I didn't say it, but part of owning a business is meeting government regulations and paying taxes. Most of those regulations are there because someone screwed over human beings, while others are there to prevent any further screwing. A business isn't a license to do whatever you want regardless of who gets harmed. If you got a gripe, maybe you should gripe about the dumb SOB that screwed over humans & resulted in the regulations.

 

[MarcATL]

The rightys keep chanting from under their rocks, that somehow government is preventing the economy recovery, BECAUSE GOVERNMENT IS IN THE WAY!! I'ts all somehow governments fault that jobs are not being created with the Trillon dollars corporations are known to be hoarding. So lets eliminate a few myths;

1.That government creates jobs. No, cons know that is not true, and they tell us quite often that government does not create jobs.

2.That government is standing in the way of corporations. Yet they cannot cite anything, and when you put them on the spot, they take their Rushkie myths and dive back under their rocks.

So rightys, this is your chance to tell us Leftys, honestly, how is government in the way of business's creating jobs??

Yep, none of us can explain anything, which is why we post videos. We are too stupid to understand anything else.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQscE3Xed64&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQscE3Xed64[/ame]

Fortunately, the people who make the videos are pretty smart.

Why must everything involving RW wingnuts feature or include people that talk like they just came in from the sticks? Who are they supposed to be catering to with that backwood bumblef--k hillbillay hick talk?

And you rejects get so upset when people say you are ignorant, dumb and/or a low-information voter.

Yet at every turn this is what you present.

Unbelievable.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What the hell are you talking about? That it should be the consumer to clean up the messes corporations make?? Or maybe it is the wrong business to be in and cannot accept the risks of being in business.

You claimed that a business should be required to pay up any mess it makes as justification for making them spend money to start a business, and then you think I do not make sense?

I didn't say it, but part of owning a business is meeting government regulations and paying taxes. Most of those regulations are there because someone screwed over human beings, while others are there to prevent any further screwing. A business isn't a license to do whatever you want regardless of who gets harmed. If you got a gripe, maybe you should gripe about the dumb SOB that screwed over humans & resulted in the regulations.

You didn't say that? Was somebody else posting using your nick?

That doesn't sound like an obstacle to business. It may be an obstacle to your business but that's because it's run by an incompetent. It's not an obstacle to the corps with deep pockets, who obviously know how to compete.

How is requiring a business to spend 25 billion dollars to pay for air pollution controls not a obstacle to business?



Large corporations champion expensive environmental regulations because it keeps start ups from entering the field. They already have the money available to pay for things, so they get to look good with the idiots, and get to keep others from taking away their government subsidized monopoly.

Businesses are required to clean up the messes they make. To allow corps to pollute would be to allow those corps to expropriate assets from others, which the wingnuts seem to oppose.........except when they dont

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The rightys keep chanting from under their rocks, that somehow government is preventing the economy recovery, BECAUSE GOVERNMENT IS IN THE WAY!! I'ts all somehow governments fault that jobs are not being created with the Trillon dollars corporations are known to be hoarding. So lets eliminate a few myths;

1.That government creates jobs. No, cons know that is not true, and they tell us quite often that government does not create jobs.

2.That government is standing in the way of corporations. Yet they cannot cite anything, and when you put them on the spot, they take their Rushkie myths and dive back under their rocks.

So rightys, this is your chance to tell us Leftys, honestly, how is government in the way of business's creating jobs??

Yep, none of us can explain anything, which is why we post videos. We are too stupid to understand anything else.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQscE3Xed64&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQscE3Xed64[/ame]

Fortunately, the people who make the videos are pretty smart.

Why must everything involving RW wingnuts feature or include people that talk like they just came in from the sticks? Who are they supposed to be catering to with that backwood bumblef--k hillbillay hick talk?

And you rejects get so upset when people say you are ignorant, dumb and/or a low-information voter.

Yet at every turn this is what you present.

Unbelievable.

Maybe it is because we are all so stupid and ignorant compared to all of you super intelligent liberal elitists.

Or, maybe it is because it aggravates the idiots who are so stupid they do not know how stupid they are.

I personally think it is the second reason. It certainly worked on you.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Some Govt regulatory agencies collect fees, but none do it "to increase revenue"; they do it to help pay for their operations. The way you described it, as a payment for which they get nothing in return, is indeed a "shakedown". If the business doesn't "play ball" (by paying), they can expect "trouble" (in the form of the govt shutting their business down)

And fines relating to inspections, etc can be appealed. All you have to do is prove you followed the rules. It's not that hard.

Unless you're a stupid wingnut businessman who thinks some govt pencil pusher has the final say.

If you do not think government uses license fees to increase revenue ,you're in la la land.
Look, it really doesn't matter what you think. Government regulation that is fair balanced and serves the public good is an essential function of government under the area of public safety or providing for the general welfare of the people.
Having a rouge employee of government knocking on doors of businesses looking for a "little something to speed things up" is a shakedown.
Now because you are a lib and a fan of big government, I will excuse your lack of comprehension skills.

If you think I"m going to believe a word you say simply because you said it, it's you who is living in lala land

The facts don't care what you think. Taking bribes is illegal, and if you're asked for a bribe, you should do your civic duty and report it to the police.

Stop blaming your cowardly failure to run your business correctly on regulations when you're really concerned about mythical bribes.

You don't get out much, do you?
Call the cops. File a lawsuit....Open your mouth and not have irrefutable evidence and you'll never get a permit nor pass an inspection ever..
NOw , how about you try to focus..
I never stated govt regs are a shakedown. You made that up to cover your rowboat assed argument..You are in the big water, boy. Learn to swim or get the fuck out of the pool.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The rightys keep chanting from under their rocks, that somehow government is preventing the economy recovery, BECAUSE GOVERNMENT IS IN THE WAY!! I'ts all somehow governments fault that jobs are not being created with the Trillon dollars corporations are known to be hoarding. So lets eliminate a few myths;

1.That government creates jobs. No, cons know that is not true, and they tell us quite often that government does not create jobs.

2.That government is standing in the way of corporations. Yet they cannot cite anything, and when you put them on the spot, they take their Rushkie myths and dive back under their rocks.

So rightys, this is your chance to tell us Leftys, honestly, how is government in the way of business's creating jobs??

Yep, none of us can explain anything, which is why we post videos. We are too stupid to understand anything else.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQscE3Xed64&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQscE3Xed64[/ame]

Fortunately, the people who make the videos are pretty smart.

Why must everything involving RW wingnuts feature or include people that talk like they just came in from the sticks? Who are they supposed to be catering to with that backwood bumblef--k hillbillay hick talk?

And you rejects get so upset when people say you are ignorant, dumb and/or a low-information voter.

Yet at every turn this is what you present.

Unbelievable.

Stop it.....With the potential for the largest tax increase in US history, the never ending supply of paper coming from the Federal Reserve( this time it's $600 billion to prop up the stock market) which devalues the dollar , an impending spike in energy prices due to a falling dollar and of course rising interest rates, again necessary to cover the falling value of the dollar.
We are headed for a double dip recession. The Obama people have all but told us this is very possible......All this and you or any one of your Obama cheerleaders can't figure out how government is wholly responsible for the lack of growth?....

 

[Oddball]

CON$ don't wan't to do nothing except call themselves a businessman, expect to make money and not pay taxes. They don't want to get certified, they don't want to save, they don't want to pay insurance, they don't want to pay their employees.

They want it so that any gap-toothed buck-toothed palooka name Jeb can uppn call humsulf a buznusmun and don't pay nerr pesky gubmunt taxes.

Buncha anarchist slackers!

Here...You'll be needing one of these to keep posting.

 

[thereisnospoon]

What is SOOOOOO hard about filling out a 1099?

It takes time away from more productive pursuits.

Like posting their drivel on internet messages boards.

"Pot. This is kettle. You're black."

 

[The Infidel]

What is SOOOOOO hard about filling out a 1099?

its not hard at if ya just want sell lemonade , but then there are the licences & permits..... gosh whatever do I do?

 

[thereisnospoon]

If wingnuts didn't lie, they'd have nothing to say

You're just another wingnut who has memorized the "10,000 regulations" rant, but who can't name one of those regulations that are keeping an incompetent boob like you from making the bug bucks

Well guess you just dont know me as well as you think you do.... Ive been "ranting" for years.... you just are'nt in my circle of friends that know me (I wouldnt have a friend like you) .... How is this for just ONE example

Health care law's hidden tax change to launch 1099 avalanche - May. 5, 2010

Senators seek to repeal 1099 rule in healthcare law - The Hill's On The Money

Health-Care Bill Surprise: 1099 Nightmare - BusinessWeek


I know... I know.... just more memorized the "10,000 regulations" rants right?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Wingnuts think it's hard to print a 1099!!

Wingnuts are such incompetent boobs, they think it's hard and expensive to do the simple calculation a 1099 requires

yes 60% of all employers are small business and yes ,you're right, they are all buffoons..
Hey shitforbrains...the issue here is not the form..it is more government intrusion and more friggin paperwork..
You libs just hate business ,don't you....The very same business that provides you idiots with jobs so you can buy computers and internet access so you can post moronic anecdotes such as the ones we have to endure form you.

 

[The Infidel]

What is SOOOOOO hard about filling out a 1099?

It takes time away from more productive pursuits.

Like posting their drivel on internet messages boards.

"Pot. This is kettle. You're black."

racist

 

[thereisnospoon]

If by "limited Capacity" you mean "policing international waters, regulating interstate commerce, establishing a national bank, a post office, and a court system to ajudicate business disputes" then "Yeah, it was a limited capacity"

What?

Your words:

And the govt has been involved in the economy since before the Constitution was ratified.

And you cite things that weren't in play at the time. YOU are one confused puppy.

Still stands.

So you want pre-constitutional examples? No problem

Before the Constitution, the govt was responsible for the division of land into useful units. In an agrarian economy, this represented an enourmous involvement in the economy. The govt passed laws which stated that new states admitted to the union in certain specific territories would never be slave states, another huge involvement in the economy

around here we source our posts when they are not our own work or words.
If you stating an opinion, then indicate it as such..
What you posted above is NOT based in fact but your own view of how the government effects or interacts with the marketplace.

 

[MarcATL]

loling @ the lame defense "i'm rubber you're glue" defense of the hillbillay backwoods hick talk video.

ROTFLMBAO!!!

 

[thereisnospoon]

What is SOOOOOO hard about filling out a 1099?

It puts an undue burden upon business to fill one out for every expenditure over $600.00 Dumbass.

YOU are a fucking control freak...as is Gubmint.

Clear now ACE?

Again, the wingnuts think words mean whatever they want them to mean

"Undue" means "excessive" or "inappropriately large" - 30 minutes/year is not excessive or large, unless you're a wingnut (in which case, the job could take all year long)

It's the principle...Every day it's something else with this fuckin overbearing ever more intrusive government ...Why the fuck do you think we turned over the US House?...We're putting a stop to this bullshit

 

[thereisnospoon]

This post presupposes the existence of two entities: business and government.

This is false.

Business owns & staffs government through the funding of elections and lobbying $$$.

Any time there is big legislation, business is the primary benefactor. Look at the 2003 Drug Bill which put Eli Lilly directly beneath the spigot of entitlement spending. They were able to the lock the taxpayer into above market prices. Look at ObamaCare. Business owned enough Blue Dog Democrats to block the public option, which would have forced insurance companies to compete. They were able to create legislation that literally feeds people into the current broken system, with its never-ending carnival of overpriced drugs & procedures -- all contributing to runaway administrative costs AKA profits, profits made not by doctors or because of innovative technology but profits accrued by parasites who have monopolized the space between doctor and patient. Many states only have 1 or 2 health care consumer options for reasons that have nothing to do with competition or merit, but simply because a group of people purchased the government apparatus.

The point of business is to use government to make more money. If government didn't exist, business would invent it in order to gain no-bid access to taxpayer funds. If Conservatives understood how much Lockheed Martin or Bechtel depended on government contracts, their brains would melt. business craves a dynamic state sector to protect its interests and defend its supply chains.

Business has convinced a generation of conservatives that something called government exists. It doesn't. Government is a bogus holding used to channel money into special interests and absorb losses. When business does something corrupt on a grand scale, they never take the blame because they have trained America to blame government instead. The scary part is that the Republican party has convinced the serfs that a government boogeyman actually exists.

Why is it no one else on this board holds the same opinion on this issue as you do?

 

[The Infidel]

loling @ the lame defense "i'm rubber you're glue" defense of the hillbillay backwoods hick talk video.

ROTFLMBAO!!!

your a 1 trick pony.... loser
is that your sister?

 

[antagon]

This post presupposes the existence of two entities: business and government.

This is false.

Business owns & staffs government through the funding of elections and lobbying $$$.

Any time there is big legislation, business is the primary benefactor. Look at the 2003 Drug Bill which put Eli Lilly directly beneath the spigot of entitlement spending. They were able to the lock the taxpayer into above market prices. Look at ObamaCare. Business owned enough Blue Dog Democrats to block the public option, which would have forced insurance companies to compete. They were able to create legislation that literally feeds people into the current broken system, with its never-ending carnival of overpriced drugs & procedures -- all contributing to runaway administrative costs AKA profits, profits made not by doctors or because of innovative technology but profits accrued by parasites who have monopolized the space between doctor and patient. Many states only have 1 or 2 health care consumer options for reasons that have nothing to do with competition or merit, but simply because a group of people purchased the government apparatus.

The point of business is to use government to make more money. If government didn't exist, business would invent it in order to gain no-bid access to taxpayer funds. If Conservatives understood how much Lockheed Martin or Bechtel depended on government contracts, their brains would melt. business craves a dynamic state sector to protect its interests and defend its supply chains.

Business has convinced a generation of conservatives that something called government exists. It doesn't. Government is a bogus holding used to channel money into special interests and absorb losses. When business does something corrupt on a grand scale, they never take the blame because they have trained America to blame government instead. The scary part is that the Republican party has convinced the serfs that a government boogeyman actually exists.

Why is it no one else on this board holds the same opinion on this issue as you do?

this is because Londoner presupposes that business is a single entity. his observations are accurate, but i put forward, then, that small business is juxtaposed to his big-business/government model.

 

[topspin]

CON$ don't wan't to do nothing except call themselves a businessman, expect to make money and not pay taxes. They don't want to get certified, they don't want to save, they don't want to pay insurance, they don't want to pay their employees.

They want it so that any gap-toothed buck-toothed palooka name Jeb can uppn call humsulf a buznusmun and don't pay nerr pesky gubmunt taxes.

Buncha anarchist slackers!

your really trying hard to make yourself looke like a socialist 20 years younger than you are. good job