How I Went From Far-Left Socialist to Conservative Republican

[Remodeling Maidiac]

When I first started voting in 1967, my main thought was to stay out of the Vietnam War, which I hated (and still do). It was a Democrat then who was waging that war (Lyndon Johnson), and a Republican (Richard Nixon) who said he had a secret plan to end the war. Lots of leftists, including me, stunned by the Tet Offensive in 1968, desperate for an end to the war, believed him and voted for him, just on that alone. Then, after getting elected, in 1969, he escalated the war with round the clock bombings of North Vietnam.

For the next 40 years, I never voted for a Republican again. I voted for every Democrat or Green presidential candidate from McGovern in 1972 to Obama in 2008.
Although I always did have reservations about the Democratic party's positions on illegal immigration and affirmative action, I still retained my strong Marxist beginnings, and viewed the Democrats as being for the poor, the middle class, and the Republicans as being for the rich.

I looked with disgust at the gay pride perverted spectacles that Democrats seemed to support, and always thought >> What is there to be proud of ?

After the turn of the century, and 9/11, terrorism and Islamization becoming major factors, and having that become part of the scenario, I began to look closer at the differences between the 2 major parties. I found the Democrats to be disturbingly friendly to radical Islam, and less and less a friend of lower income Americans, with each passing year. The shocking blow that knocked me right out of my Democrat shoes, in 2009 was the Fort Hood shooting. Being an Army veteran myself, I couldn't help thinking the 13 soldiers shot dead by terrorist Nidal Hasan could have been me. Couldn't deny that a lot of the blame for the massacre was with Obama (commander in chief of all US military) who, for months, refused to eject Hasan from the Army with a dishonorable discharge, despite official requests for that, from almost every Fort Hood officer of the rank of major and higher.

Then I saw Obama, pull US troops out of Iraq in 2011, created a vacuum, that was sure to be filled by jihadists. Sure enough, along came ISIS, and Obama mostly ignored them, while their convoys were on open, desert roads, sitting ducks for airstrikes. Obama's pitifully few airstrikes were called "pin pricks" by ex-Generals.

In 2012, I voted for Virgil Goode, rather than the RINO Romney. In 2016, when the Democrats had lost their connection to the low income classes, with Hillary Clinton's campaign heavily donated by rich, Wall St interests, and greatly outspent Trump, I knew I couldn't vote for that. Clinton also was a pure globalist with a strong connection to outsourcing, having voted for it in the Senate, and being a member of pro outsourcing organizations (Trilateral Commission & Council on Foreign Relations).

Trump was just the opposite. Was not in cahoots with Wall St., wasn't throwing US workers under the bus with illegal immigration, wasn't cool with the Islamic seditionists, was not a globalist and was a nationalist, supporting US businesses and workers, and wasn't an enemy of most of the US population on the affirmative action issue. I became a registered Republican in 2016, and voted for Trump in the primary and general election. He came through big, giving us a good economy, low unemployment (lowest ever for minorities) and the highest median wage in US history, along with many other things good for poor, and working class people.

All this was now in addition to the Democrats gone completely insane with riots, induced by media false reporting, and insane ideas like Critical Race Theory, police defunding, tran men competing with women in womens' sports, excessive gun control, immorally loose abortion ideas, and wrecking our democracy by election stealing and the shameful Biden Afghanistan fiasco, leaving Americans and tens of Billions of US equipment to the Taliban.

US Generals on Iraq: Obama Must Do More Than 'Pinprick' Airstrikes | Newsmax.com

McCain Calls Obama's 'Pinprick' Iraq Strikes 'Meaningless' and 'Almost Worse Than Nothing' (thedailybeast.com)

Glad to hear you grew up. Sadly I had to goto prison to learn the same lesson.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I really only play 4 of them seriously. (Electric guitar - Rock music, Acoustic guitar - Blues/Bluegrass/Folk, mandolin, violin/fiddle), The others I just toy around with.

 

[occupied]

I'm busy elsewhere right now. Don't have time for irrelevant houseflies. Will annihilate your post later.

What are you going to do? Gripe at me some more? If you just come here to vent your rage we might get the idea you are a miserable bastard full of fear and loathing.

 

[protectionist]

If you ever had the kind of broad concern for the vulnerable it takes to be leftist you lost it somewhere along the line. I don't think you ever had it since you don't seem to understand or value social justice. If I have you wrong you might want to try being less of a miserable bastard all the time.

You are still lost in the fog of where I was 12 years ago. "Social Justice" you say ? Yeah ?

You think the left is the party of social justice in America, do you ? Well, you're dead wrong! The 2021 left is the farthest thing from social justice, there ever has been in America.

Have yourself a good read of Post #s 25 and 42. Read them SLOWLY. And just maybe, you will see how it is Trump and conservatism that is clearly the party of social justice in America, having already achieved it, while Democrats were throwing US workers and citizens under the bus, with Obama's and Biden's horrendous illegal immigration policies, and discriminating against the majority of Americans (whites) with AA, ARP, and CRT.

 

[protectionist]

What are you going to do? Gripe at me some more? If you just come here to vent your rage we might get the idea you are a miserable bastard full of fear and loathing.

Interesting how your clueless rage exhibits all the characteristics you are labeling me with. LOL. If only you knew what to be actually be mad about. (but liberals are too DUPED for that)

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

If you were a “strong Marxist” you wouldn’t have been backing either the Democratic or the Republican parties all that time. You were probably pretty confused. Sounds like you still are …

P.S.

You say “Homosexuality is a mental disorder, that sex perverts suffer from.” Figures.

 

[protectionist]

If you were a “strong Marxist” you wouldn’t have been backing either the Democratic or the Republican parties all that time. You were probably pretty confused. Sounds like you still are …

P.S. You say “Homosexuality is a mental disorder, that sex perverts suffer from.” Figures.

Sounds like YOU are who is confused. Of course I was not backing the Democrats or Republicans, and as such, I was outside if the realm of electoral politics. Being a strong Marxist, I was in support of a socialist revolution. If you had read the thread, you would have seen that I wore a Mao button, and carried copies of the Communist Manifesto and State & Revolution around with me.

And yes, Homosexuality is a mental disorder, that sex perverts suffer from. Of course.

 

[protectionist]

If you ever had the kind of broad concern for the vulnerable it takes to be leftist you lost it somewhere along the line. I don't think you ever had it since you don't seem to understand or value social justice. If I have you wrong you might want to try being less of a miserable bastard all the time.

Mind boggling how you can associate today's Democrats with "social justice". Anytime you want to debate that, I will be glad to show you how conservatives value social justice, and do things to achieve it, and Democrats certainly do not. They do just the opposite.

 

[DrLove]

I am interested in tales like OPs. My brother as young man was popular and fairly satisfied with his life. Then he became a truck driver and rode around the country listening to talk radio for thirty years. By the time he died 2 years ago he was utterly friendless because no one wanted to hear his non-stop griping. His long-time girlfriend just grabbed everything of value and split. I had to pay for his cremation even though I hadn't spoken to him in years because there was no one else. He embraced extreme right wing politics and never had another happy moment in his life. I still wonder why anyone would do that to themselves.

This ^ describes my friend old high school friend perfectly. He was never a much of anything other than a bleeding heart liberal. The dude taught school for 25 years, retired early, and started listening to RW Squawk Radio.

His wife used to call me endlessly complaining about the fact that he'd get up in the morning, make a big pot of coffee and retire to his workshop out back listening to Rushbo, Hannity, Ingraham, Carlson, Levin etc etc for HOURS every day.

It turned him into a bitter, old, angry man. When Trump came along he went Full MAGA - The hat/ the rallies/ everything!

I still talk to him from time to time. His friends have considered an intervention, but it's too late. Wife divorced him and he still heads out to his workshop each and every morning. Kinda sad.

 

[DrLove]

TRUMP ACCOMPLISHMENTS

5. created 10 million jobs in 4 months, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,

Lotta lies to sift through there but this ^ was maybe my favorite!

Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover

The number of employed Americans fell by 3 million during Trump's time in office.

fortune.com

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

If you had read the thread, you would have seen that I wore a Mao button, and carried copies of the Communist Manifesto and State & Revolution around with me.

And yes, Homosexuality is a mental disorder, that sex perverts suffer from. Of course.

So wearing a Mao button was not being confused??? Seems to me you are admitting you were not a serious “Marxist” but a self-indulgent middle-class fool in those days. I knew many of your type … all too well. Most grew up to be Democrats and many later — like you — became disgruntled old white guys who exchanged their youthful Mao buttons … for Trump hats.

Well, it’s still a free country… Maybe you will evolve further... It’s scary to imagine where you will go next!

 

[airplanemechanic]

How many of these threads are you going to make?

I Had an Excuse To Be a Democrat. What's Your's ?

I started out in my political life as a Democrat. I stayed that way for 40 years (except for registering Green Party and voting for Ralph Nader twice). Other than the 2 Nader votes, I voted for every Democrat presidential candidate from McGovern in 1972 to Obama in 2008. I was not only left, I...

www.usmessageboard.com

Are you having afterthoughts about being a republican or something?

 

[protectionist]

Lotta lies to sift through there but this ^ was maybe my favorite!

Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover

The number of employed Americans fell by 3 million during Trump's time in office.

fortune.com

That link is one that is designed for IDIOTS. 2020 was a pandemic year, created by Democrat Fauci, and in which the economics was derailed by lockdowns mostly in blue states + Pelosi's refusal to allow stimulus checks to be sent out. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with Trump, yet this assinine article blames Trump.

Yeah, the created 10 million jobs in 4 months, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs, is one of my favorites too.

 

[protectionist]

So wearing a Mao button was not being confused??? Seems to me you are admitting you were not a serious “Marxist” but a self-indulgent middle-class fool in those days. I knew many of your type … all too well. Most grew up to be Democrats and many later — like you — became disgruntled old white guys who exchanged their youthful Mao buttons … for Trump hats.

Well, it’s still a free country… Maybe you will evolve further... It’s scary to imagine where you will go next!

Seems to you, WRONG. I was a VERY serious Marxist, to the point of endangering my safety, and possibly even my life.

You need to be less confused, before you start making assumptions and engaging in fool accusations. Maybe if you sit down in a quiet room for a few hours, read Posts 25 and 42, and think objectively, eventually you'll get a grip on what's happening.

 

[DrLove]

That link is one that is designed for IDIOTS. 2020 was a pandemic year, created by Democrat Fauci, and in which the economics was derailed by lockdowns mostly in blue states + Pelosi's refusal to allow stimulus checks to be sent out. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with Trump, yet this assinine article blames Trump.

Yeah, the created 10 million jobs in 4 months, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs, is one of my favorites too.

Sorry - Dear Leader created Minus 3 Million jobs. Stop lying and go to bed

 

[protectionist]

This ^ describes my friend old high school friend perfectly. He was never a much of anything other than a bleeding heart liberal. The dude taught school for 25 years, retired early, and started listening to RW Squawk Radio.

His wife used to call me endlessly complaining about the fact that he'd get up in the morning, make a big pot of coffee and retire to his workshop out back listening to Rushbo, Hannity, Ingraham, Carlson, Levin etc etc for HOURS every day.

It turned him into a bitter, old, angry man. When Trump came along he went Full MAGA - The hat/ the rallies/ everything!

I still talk to him from time to time. His friends have considered an intervention, but it's too late. Wife divorced him and he still heads out to his workshop each and every morning. Kinda sad.

What is sad is that you cluelessly disparage him, when he is fully focused, and you are lost in a fog of leftist, propaganda nonsense.

Your best hope to escape your pitiful programming is to watch those TV shows, and listen to the radio shows. I recommend Mike Gallagher on the radio, and Greg Kelly and Grant Stinchfield on Newsmax.

You won't. You'll forget that advice, and stay ignorant.

 

[protectionist]

Sorry - Dear Leader created Minus 3 Million jobs. Stop lying and go to bed

Fool: I just refuted that 14 minutes ago in Post # 73.

 

[DrLove]

Fool: I just refuted that 14 minutes ago in Post # 73.

No you didn’t, but if it helps you to sleep better .. mmmk

 

[DrLove]

What is sad is that you cluelessly disparage him, when he is fully focused, and you are lost in a fog of leftist, propaganda nonsense.

Your best hope to escape your pitiful programming is to watch those TV shows, and listen to the radio shows. I recommend Mike Gallagher on the radio, and Greg Kelly and Grant Stinchfield on Newsmax.

You won't. You'll forget that advice, and stay ignorant.

Grunt Stenchfield on Newsmax?

 

[protectionist]

Grunt Stenchfield on Newsmax?

Watch him and LEARN, airhead.