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LOL! As though Clint would agree with shooting kids who throw stones. Gimme a fucking break!For your information,sport, every one of those "pebble" tosing SOBs are 5th degree Black Belt brick throwers. Any MLB teams would love to sign any of them to a contract. Potential 40 game winners all. As for shooting them, they should know not to bring a rock to a gun fight. Remember what Clint Eastwood said after shooting the unarmed bartender in The Unforgiven....."He should have armed himself."Ropey makes good sense. You don't attack an enemy with rocks or AK 47's who can wipe you & your people off the face of the earth.
C'mon, sheesh, you're actually defending a military that shoots rock throwing teenagers? You guys would have a tad of credibility if you wouldn't blindly support ANYTHING Israel does. Like, I'm no sand monkey lover, but shooting their kids for throwing rocks? Sorry, you get no macho points for that, just a wet noodle award.
The slaughter of innocent Israelis is not resistance -- it's injustice.
Let's be honest: Israel is surrounded by neighbors that have waged repeated wars against it. Israel's citizens have been killed by rockets fired at their houses and suicide bombs on their buses. Israel's children come of age knowing that throughout the region, other children are taught to hate them. Israel, a small country of less than eight million people, looks out at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe it off of the map. These facts cannot be denied.
Remarks by President Obama in Address to the United Nations General Assembly | The White House
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrI8-qb9M9A]Hamas: Kill Christians and Jews "to the last one" - YouTube[/ame]Allah, oh our Lord
Vanquish your enemies, enemies of the religion [Islam]
in all places
Allah, strike the Jews and their sympathizers,
the Christians and their supporters
Allah, count them and kill them to the last one,
and don't even leave even one.
Funny baiting drivel.Most civilized countries use tear gas on stone throwers/protesters, or the riot police go and rough them up a little. Why do they shoot them? it's only rocks and kids, sheesh.
I see only one scenario for a lasting peace for Israel from Palestinians. And that is for Israel to find an incentive to offer the Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands. Call it a one state solution.
I see only one scenario for a lasting peace for Israel from Palestinians. And that is for Israel to find an incentive to offer the Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands. Call it a one state solution.
Israel's version of peace is all of Palestine without the Palestinians.
That has been their goal for a hundred years.
I see only one scenario for a lasting peace for Israel from Palestinians. And that is for Israel to find an incentive to offer the Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands. Call it a one state solution.
Israel's version of peace is all of Palestine without the Palestinians.
That has been their goal for a hundred years.
Of course just the opposite is true. It was the Arabs who had race riots when Jews started moving into the neighborhood.
Israel's version of peace is all of Palestine without the Palestinians.
That has been their goal for a hundred years.
Of course just the opposite is true. It was the Arabs who had race riots when Jews started moving into the neighborhood.
Israeli propaganda.
The Arab Invasion of the State of Israel 15 May 1948
On 15 May, 1948 six Arab armies, those of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, invaded Israel. They advanced rapidly, threatening to destroy the one-day old State and drive its citizens into the sea. The Israelis resisted and after ten days were able to counter-attack
Between May 1948 and January 1949, the State of Israel fought to retain its independence against the combined forces of six Arab armies. Following the initial Arab invasion, the Israelis reopened the road to Jerusalem, won control of the Coastal Plain, secured the upper Galilee, and drove the Egyptians from the Negev.
But, the Israelis were themselves driven from the from the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem, whose synagogues were desecrated and whose Jewish houses were destroyed.
During Israel's struggle for independence between November 1947 and January 1949, more than 4,000 Jewish soldiers and 2,000 civilians were killed out of a total Jewish population of only 650,000. The figures for Arab dead were not disclosed by the Arab states.
The UN estimated that over 725,000 Arabs fled between April and December 1948. Many Arabs were encouraged to leave by their own political leaders who promised them that they would soon be able to return to their homes once Israel had been destroyed. But, over 150,000 Arabs either remained in Israel or returned to their homes in Israel during 1949.
In April 1949, at the UN Palestine Conciliation Commission at Lausanne, Israel offered to repatriate 100,000 Arab refugees within the framework of a general settlement. The Arab delegation rejected the offer. In 1950 the United Nations Relief and Works Agency [UNRWA] proposed resettling Arab refugees in Sinai, Jordan and Syria, but the Arab governments also rejected this proposal. In 1952, the UN Refugee Rehabilitation Fund offered the Arab states $200 million to find homes and jobs for the refugees. The Arab states used some of the money for relief work, but did not even apply for the greater part of the fund.
In 1949, some 150,000 Arabs remained in Israel. By 1956, their numbers had increased to 312,000 or 11% of the total populaiton. Less than 5,000 Arabs left Israel during this period. From 1959, Arabs could join the Israeli Trade Union Organization and on 1 December 1966 Israeli Military Government was abolished in all Arab areas. Since 1949, Arabs voted in all Israeli elections and sent their own members to the Israeli Parliament. Since May 1948, both Hebrew and Arabic have been the official languages of the State of Israel and three Arabic language daily newspapers have been in regular production. But throughout this period, the Arabs maintained separate communities and cultural life as did the 30,000 Bedouin who lived in the Negev and around Beersheba.
The majority of the Arabs who remained in Israel after May 19488 lived in the northernmost part ofj the State. Whereas the Arabs who fled from Israel in 1948 were for the most part confined to refugee camps by their fellow Arab hosts and deliberately cut off from the economic development of the States in which they lived, the Arabs of Israel continued to live unmolested in their original homes, gained materially from Israel's own material successes and received direct Israeli aid for irrigation, reclamation, mechanization and social welfare [including education, health and housing]
Palestinian terrorist groups, or fedayeen, began systematic raids into Israel from 1950. Toward the end of 1954, the Egyptian Government supervised the formal establishment of Palestinian terrorist groups in the Gaza strip and northeastern Sinai. Throughout 1955 an increasing number of raids were launched into Israel. From 1951 to 1958, Israeli vehicles were ambushed, farms attacked, fields boobytrapped and roads mined. Fedayeen from Gaza also infiltrated into Jordan and operated from there. Saudi Arabia, Syria and Lebanon each gave the Fedayeen support and refure. Local Jordanian-Palestinian Fedayeen were also active operating from the West Bank.
Amazon.com: Martin Gilbert'sThe Routledge Atlas of Jewish History (Routledge Historical Atlases) [Hardcover](2010): M., (Author) Gilbert: Books
Of course just the opposite is true. It was the Arabs who had race riots when Jews started moving into the neighborhood.
Israeli propaganda.
Not at all. The Arabs' hostility to Jewish immigrants was just the continuing expression of Arab anti semitism that has been going on for over a thousand years.
The Arab Invasion of the State of Israel 15 May 1948
On 15 May, 1948 six Arab armies, those of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, invaded Israel. They advanced rapidly, threatening to destroy the one-day old State and drive its citizens into the sea. The Israelis resisted and after ten days were able to counter-attack
Between May 1948 and January 1949, the State of Israel fought to retain its independence against the combined forces of six Arab armies. Following the initial Arab invasion, the Israelis reopened the road to Jerusalem, won control of the Coastal Plain, secured the upper Galilee, and drove the Egyptians from the Negev.
But, the Israelis were themselves driven from the from the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem, whose synagogues were desecrated and whose Jewish houses were destroyed.
During Israel's struggle for independence between November 1947 and January 1949, more than 4,000 Jewish soldiers and 2,000 civilians were killed out of a total Jewish population of only 650,000. The figures for Arab dead were not disclosed by the Arab states.
The UN estimated that over 725,000 Arabs fled between April and December 1948. Many Arabs were encouraged to leave by their own political leaders who promised them that they would soon be able to return to their homes once Israel had been destroyed. But, over 150,000 Arabs either remained in Israel or returned to their homes in Israel during 1949.
In April 1949, at the UN Palestine Conciliation Commission at Lausanne, Israel offered to repatriate 100,000 Arab refugees within the framework of a general settlement. The Arab delegation rejected the offer. In 1950 the United Nations Relief and Works Agency [UNRWA] proposed resettling Arab refugees in Sinai, Jordan and Syria, but the Arab governments also rejected this proposal. In 1952, the UN Refugee Rehabilitation Fund offered the Arab states $200 million to find homes and jobs for the refugees. The Arab states used some of the money for relief work, but did not even apply for the greater part of the fund.
In 1949, some 150,000 Arabs remained in Israel. By 1956, their numbers had increased to 312,000 or 11% of the total populaiton. Less than 5,000 Arabs left Israel during this period. From 1959, Arabs could join the Israeli Trade Union Organization and on 1 December 1966 Israeli Military Government was abolished in all Arab areas. Since 1949, Arabs voted in all Israeli elections and sent their own members to the Israeli Parliament. Since May 1948, both Hebrew and Arabic have been the official languages of the State of Israel and three Arabic language daily newspapers have been in regular production. But throughout this period, the Arabs maintained separate communities and cultural life as did the 30,000 Bedouin who lived in the Negev and around Beersheba.
The majority of the Arabs who remained in Israel after May 19488 lived in the northernmost part ofj the State. Whereas the Arabs who fled from Israel in 1948 were for the most part confined to refugee camps by their fellow Arab hosts and deliberately cut off from the economic development of the States in which they lived, the Arabs of Israel continued to live unmolested in their original homes, gained materially from Israel's own material successes and received direct Israeli aid for irrigation, reclamation, mechanization and social welfare [including education, health and housing]
Palestinian terrorist groups, or fedayeen, began systematic raids into Israel from 1950. Toward the end of 1954, the Egyptian Government supervised the formal establishment of Palestinian terrorist groups in the Gaza strip and northeastern Sinai. Throughout 1955 an increasing number of raids were launched into Israel. From 1951 to 1958, Israeli vehicles were ambushed, farms attacked, fields boobytrapped and roads mined. Fedayeen from Gaza also infiltrated into Jordan and operated from there. Saudi Arabia, Syria and Lebanon each gave the Fedayeen support and refure. Local Jordanian-Palestinian Fedayeen were also active operating from the West Bank.
Amazon.com: Martin Gilbert'sThe Routledge Atlas of Jewish History (Routledge Historical Atlases) [Hardcover](2010): M., (Author) Gilbert: Books
Sir Martin Gilbert is the author of more than eighty books, including the six-volume authorized biography of Winston Churchill, the twin histories First World War and Second World War, Israel: A History, The Holocaust, A History of the Twentieth Century in three volumes, and nine pioneering historical atlases, including Atlas of Jewish History and Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. In 1995, he was knighted for services to British history and international relations, and in 2009 he was appointed to the British Governments Iraq War Inquiry. He lives in London.
In Ishmael's House - Gilbert, Martin - Yale University Press
Israeli propaganda.
Not at all. The Arabs' hostility to Jewish immigrants was just the continuing expression of Arab anti semitism that has been going on for over a thousand years.
That is just an Israeli lie.
Not at all. The Arabs' hostility to Jewish immigrants was just the continuing expression of Arab anti semitism that has been going on for over a thousand years.
That is just an Israeli lie.
We both know it's the truth. I've several times posted links to the persecutions and pogroms by Arabs of Jews starting back in the 11th century and going right up into the 20th century. And the causes of Arab violence never change: lies about Jewish killings of Arab or Jewish attacks on Muslim holy places. The lie is that current Arab violence against Jews is about current issues rather than Arab anti semitism that has always been a core value of Muslim Arabs.
That is just an Israeli lie.
We both know it's the truth. I've several times posted links to the persecutions and pogroms by Arabs of Jews starting back in the 11th century and going right up into the 20th century. And the causes of Arab violence never change: lies about Jewish killings of Arab or Jewish attacks on Muslim holy places. The lie is that current Arab violence against Jews is about current issues rather than Arab anti semitism that has always been a core value of Muslim Arabs.
Which Arabs? Which Muslims?
During the Golden age of Jewish culture in Spain, beginning in the 9th century, Islamic Spain was more tolerant towards Jews.[8] The 11th century, however, saw several Muslim pogroms against Jews; notably those that occurred in Cordoba in 1011 and in Granada in 1066.[9] In the 1066 Granada massacre, the first large pogrom on European soil, a Muslim mob crucified the Jewish vizier Joseph ibn Naghrela and massacred about 4,000 Jews[10] In 1033 about 6,000 Jews were killed in Fez, Morocco by Muslim mobs.[11][12] Mobs in Fez murdered thousands of Jews in 1276,[13] and again, leaving only 11 alive, in 1465.[13][14]
There were pogroms too in the nineteenth century in the Arab and Islamic worlds. There was a massacre of Jews in Baghdad in 1828.[20] There was another massacre in Barfurush in 1867.[20] In 1839, in the eastern Persian city of Meshed, a mob burst into the Jewish Quarter, burned the synagogue, and destroyed the Torah scrolls. This is known as the Allahdad incident. It was only by forcible conversion that a massacre was averted.[21]
The Damascus affair occurred in 1840, when an Italian monk and his servant disappeared in Damascus. Immediately following, a charge of ritual murder was brought against a large number of Jews in the city. All were found guilty. The consuls of England, France and Austria as well as Ottoman authorities, Christians, Muslims and Jews all played a great role in this affair.[22] Following the Damascus affair, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa. As well as Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), pogroms of varying degrees of intensity occurred in: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jerusalem (1847), Cairo (1844, 1890, 190102), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 190107), Port Said (1903, 1908), Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891), Istanbul (1870, 1874), Buyukdere (1864), Kuzguncuk (1866), Eyub (1868), Edirne (1872), Izmir (1872, 1874).[23]
In the Arab world, there were a number of pogroms which played a key role in the massive emigration from Arab countries to Israel.
On 12 June 1941, the two-day Farhud pogrom in Iraq, in which "rioters murdered between 150 and 180 Jews, injured 600 others, and raped an undetermined number of women. They also looted some 1,500 stores and homes".[32][33]
Anti-Jewish rioters killed over 140 Jews in the 1945 Tripoli pogrom.
The 1945 Cairo pogrom marked the start of a series of violent acts against Egypt's Jews.
Half of Aleppo's 10,000 Jews left the city in the wake of the 1947 Aleppo pogrom.
The 1947 Aden pogrom brought to an end the existence of Aden's almost two-thousand-year-old Jewish community.
The 1948 Oujda and Jerada pogrom and 1954 Petitjean pogrom were pogroms in Morocco.[34]
We both know it's the truth. I've several times posted links to the persecutions and pogroms by Arabs of Jews starting back in the 11th century and going right up into the 20th century. And the causes of Arab violence never change: lies about Jewish killings of Arab or Jewish attacks on Muslim holy places. The lie is that current Arab violence against Jews is about current issues rather than Arab anti semitism that has always been a core value of Muslim Arabs.
Which Arabs? Which Muslims?
Throughout the ME and North Africa from the 11th century right into the 20th century.
There were pogroms too in the nineteenth century in the Arab and Islamic worlds. There was a massacre of Jews in Baghdad in 1828.[20] There was another massacre in Barfurush in 1867.[20] In 1839, in the eastern Persian city of Meshed, a mob burst into the Jewish Quarter, burned the synagogue, and destroyed the Torah scrolls. This is known as the Allahdad incident. It was only by forcible conversion that a massacre was averted.[21]
The Damascus affair occurred in 1840, when an Italian monk and his servant disappeared in Damascus. Immediately following, a charge of ritual murder was brought against a large number of Jews in the city. All were found guilty. The consuls of England, France and Austria as well as Ottoman authorities, Christians, Muslims and Jews all played a great role in this affair.[22] Following the Damascus affair, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa. As well as Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), pogroms of varying degrees of intensity occurred in: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jerusalem (1847), Cairo (1844, 1890, 190102), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 190107), Port Said (1903, 1908), Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891), Istanbul (1870, 1874), Buyukdere (1864), Kuzguncuk (1866), Eyub (1868), Edirne (1872), Izmir (1872, 1874).[23]
In the Arab world, there were a number of pogroms which played a key role in the massive emigration from Arab countries to Israel.
On 12 June 1941, the two-day Farhud pogrom in Iraq, in which "rioters murdered between 150 and 180 Jews, injured 600 others, and raped an undetermined number of women. They also looted some 1,500 stores and homes".[32][33]
Anti-Jewish rioters killed over 140 Jews in the 1945 Tripoli pogrom.
The 1945 Cairo pogrom marked the start of a series of violent acts against Egypt's Jews.
Half of Aleppo's 10,000 Jews left the city in the wake of the 1947 Aleppo pogrom.
The 1947 Aden pogrom brought to an end the existence of Aden's almost two-thousand-year-old Jewish community.
The 1948 Oujda and Jerada pogrom and 1954 Petitjean pogrom were pogroms in Morocco.[34]
Pogrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In addition, many Arab attacks on Jews in the Protectorate, such as the massacres in Hebron and Safed, are properly called pogroms in that they were caused not by actual events but by lies that the Jews were attacking the al Aksa mosque, the same sort of lie that was used from the Middle Ages on to foment pogroms and the same lie that was used to start the second intifada.
With respect to hatred and violence against Jews, nothing has changed among Muslim Arabs in over a thousand years.
I see only one scenario for a lasting peace for Israel from Palestinians. And that is for Israel to find an incentive to offer the Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands. Call it a one state solution.
Which Arabs? Which Muslims?
Throughout the ME and North Africa from the 11th century right into the 20th century.
In the Arab world, there were a number of pogroms which played a key role in the massive emigration from Arab countries to Israel.
On 12 June 1941, the two-day Farhud pogrom in Iraq, in which "rioters murdered between 150 and 180 Jews, injured 600 others, and raped an undetermined number of women. They also looted some 1,500 stores and homes".[32][33]
Anti-Jewish rioters killed over 140 Jews in the 1945 Tripoli pogrom.
The 1945 Cairo pogrom marked the start of a series of violent acts against Egypt's Jews.
Half of Aleppo's 10,000 Jews left the city in the wake of the 1947 Aleppo pogrom.
The 1947 Aden pogrom brought to an end the existence of Aden's almost two-thousand-year-old Jewish community.
The 1948 Oujda and Jerada pogrom and 1954 Petitjean pogrom were pogroms in Morocco.[34]
Pogrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In addition, many Arab attacks on Jews in the Protectorate, such as the massacres in Hebron and Safed, are properly called pogroms in that they were caused not by actual events but by lies that the Jews were attacking the al Aksa mosque, the same sort of lie that was used from the Middle Ages on to foment pogroms and the same lie that was used to start the second intifada.
With respect to hatred and violence against Jews, nothing has changed among Muslim Arabs in over a thousand years.
Holy smokescreen, Batman! Let's stick to Palestine.
Throughout the ME and North Africa from the 11th century right into the 20th century.
Pogrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In addition, many Arab attacks on Jews in the Protectorate, such as the massacres in Hebron and Safed, are properly called pogroms in that they were caused not by actual events but by lies that the Jews were attacking the al Aksa mosque, the same sort of lie that was used from the Middle Ages on to foment pogroms and the same lie that was used to start the second intifada.
With respect to hatred and violence against Jews, nothing has changed among Muslim Arabs in over a thousand years.
Holy smokescreen, Batman! Let's stick to Palestine.
Of course several of the locations are in the area of the Mandate and also in the surrounding countries, and no reasonable person can deny that Arab hatred and violence against Jews did not start with the immigration of European Jews to the Mandate but has been continuous from the 11th century to today or that this Arab anti semitism, which is clearly a core value of Muslim Arabs, is the reason that Arabs respond with such violence and hatred to any disagreements with Israel.
Holy smokescreen, Batman! Let's stick to Palestine.
Of course several of the locations are in the area of the Mandate and also in the surrounding countries, and no reasonable person can deny that Arab hatred and violence against Jews did not start with the immigration of European Jews to the Mandate but has been continuous from the 11th century to today or that this Arab anti semitism, which is clearly a core value of Muslim Arabs, is the reason that Arabs respond with such violence and hatred to any disagreements with Israel.
More smokescreen. Specific Palestinian issues.
