How can there ever be peace here?

[JStone]

I find it difficult to support or even feel any compassion whatsoever for a people who blow themselves up along with their own children while killing us infidels to honor God & educate their next generations like this ---

You ever ask yourself why they do it?

Islime is why they do it.

Quran 9:29...

Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Now, even you know

 

[Truthseeker420]

I find it difficult to support or even feel any compassion whatsoever for a people who blow themselves up along with their own children while killing us infidels to honor God & educate their next generations like this ---

Palestinian Children Taught to Hate Jews - YouTube[/B]

 

[Truthseeker420]

124 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,463 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)







Israelis and Palestinians Killed
September 29, 2000 - Present






1,084 Israelis and at least 6,430 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)





Israelis and Palestinians Injured
September 29, 2000 - Present




9,226 Israelis and 45,041 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information.)







Daily U.S. Military Aid to Israel and the Palestinians
Fiscal Year 2011






During Fiscal Year 2011, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $8.2 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the Palestinians. (View Sources & More Information)





Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees






0 Israelis are being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,300 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Sources & More Information)





Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - Present




0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,813 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Sources & More Information)







Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment Rates






The Israeli unemployment rate is 6.4%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 16.5% and 40% in Gaza. (View Sources & More Information)





Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land




Israel currently has 236 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Sources & More Information)

If Americans Knew - what every American needs to know about Israel/Palestine

 

[JStone]

Barack Obama...

The slaughter of innocent Israelis is not resistance -- it's injustice.

Let's be honest: Israel is surrounded by neighbors that have waged repeated wars against it. Israel's citizens have been killed by rockets fired at their houses and suicide bombs on their buses. Israel's children come of age knowing that throughout the region, other children are taught to hate them. Israel, a small country of less than eight million people, looks out at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe it off of the map. These facts cannot be denied.
Remarks by President Obama in Address to the United Nations General Assembly | The White House

My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but allah, we will chase you everywhere We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no better blood than the blood of the Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood, we will not rest until you leave the Muslim countries.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rleFpY402vM]Palestinian - Terrorism - YouTube[/ame]

 

[MJB12741]

So then if the Palestinian squatters killed more Israeli's than the other way around would you be as sympatheic to the Israelis?

124 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,463 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)







Israelis and Palestinians Killed
September 29, 2000 - Present






1,084 Israelis and at least 6,430 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information)





Israelis and Palestinians Injured
September 29, 2000 - Present




9,226 Israelis and 45,041 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. (View Sources & More Information.)







Daily U.S. Military Aid to Israel and the Palestinians
Fiscal Year 2011






During Fiscal Year 2011, the U.S. is providing Israel with at least $8.2 million per day in military aid and $0 in military aid to the Palestinians. (View Sources & More Information)





Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees






0 Israelis are being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,300 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Sources & More Information)





Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - Present




0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 24,813 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Sources & More Information)







Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment Rates






The Israeli unemployment rate is 6.4%, while the Palestinian unemployment in the West Bank is 16.5% and 40% in Gaza. (View Sources & More Information)





Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land




Israel currently has 236 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Sources & More Information)

If Americans Knew - what every American needs to know about Israel/Palestine

 

[JStone]

ifamericansknew

Americans know...

Pallies Celebrate 9/11
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k]Palestinians celebrating the fall of the twin towers on 911 - YouTube[/ame]

Pallies Call For Death of all Americans
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7rls9eRKyo]Islam: Oh Allah - Kill all Jews and Americans! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[MJB12741]

Yes! Those Zionists made them do it. Who in their right mind makes peace offerings to Palestinians, builds a security fence & concedes land to Palestinians so they can stay? Face it, not a single surrouding Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, ever treated them like Israel does. And then Israel wonders WHY the Palestinians prefer death over life & reward Israel with jihad's, intifadas & rocket missiles. Don't that beat all?

I find it difficult to support or even feel any compassion whatsoever for a people who blow themselves up along with their own children while killing us infidels to honor God & educate their next generations like this ---

You ever ask yourself why they do it?

 

[JStone]

Quote: Originally Posted by ima
You ever ask yourself why they do it?

They read the Quran?

Quran 60:4...

We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"

My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but allah, we will chase you everywhere We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no better blood than the blood of the Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood, we will not rest until you leave the Muslim countries.

 

[ima]

Yes! Those Zionists made them do it. Who in their right mind makes peace offerings to Palestinians, builds a security fence & concedes land to Palestinians so they can stay? Face it, not a single surrouding Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, ever treated them like Israel does. And then Israel wonders WHY the Palestinians prefer death over life & reward Israel with jihad's, intifadas & rocket missiles. Don't that beat all?

I find it difficult to support or even feel any compassion whatsoever for a people who blow themselves up along with their own children while killing us infidels to honor God & educate their next generations like this ---

You ever ask yourself why they do it?

They don't want to go somewhere else, they want to go home.

 

[JStone]

Yes! Those Zionists made them do it. Who in their right mind makes peace offerings to Palestinians, builds a security fence & concedes land to Palestinians so they can stay? Face it, not a single surrouding Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, ever treated them like Israel does. And then Israel wonders WHY the Palestinians prefer death over life & reward Israel with jihad's, intifadas & rocket missiles. Don't that beat all?

You ever ask yourself why they do it?

They don't want to go somewhere else, they want to go home.

Home for Arabs would be Arabia and other Arab shitholes? Too complex for you? Last I checked, Israel was a Hebrew-based name.

Winston Churchill, Secretary of "Palestine" During British Mandate to House of Commons, Parliamentary Debates, 23 May 1939

So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.
http://us.macmillan.com/churchillandthejews/MartinGilbert

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani Scholar, Journalist, Author and Former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence.

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state.
http://www.globalpolitician.com/22871-israel

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yes! Those Zionists made them do it. Who in their right mind makes peace offerings to Palestinians, builds a security fence & concedes land to Palestinians so they can stay? Face it, not a single surrouding Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, ever treated them like Israel does. And then Israel wonders WHY the Palestinians prefer death over life & reward Israel with jihad's, intifadas & rocket missiles. Don't that beat all?

You ever ask yourself why they do it?

They don't want to go somewhere else, they want to go home.

If it were true that the so called refugees just want to go to Israel, they why haven't they tried to? They always had the right to apply to the Israeli government as individuals to emigrate to Israel. Israel's immigration laws for non Jews are similar to the US.

 

[JStone]

Can anyone name the alleged country of the alleged land of the alleged palesteenians?

Can't be palestine since the Romans renamed Israel palestine during the Roman Empire?

And, what was the name of the alleged capital of the alleged country of the alleged palesteenians?

Can't be Jerusalem since the Jewish King David established Jerusalem as the Jewish capital 3000 years ago.

 

[Douger]

I find it difficult to support or even feel any compassion whatsoever for a people who blow themselves up along with their own children while killing us infidels to honor God & educate their next generations like this ---

No need to teach them anything. It happens all by itself. Antisemitism is a disease-----you catch it from dealing with Jews.

 

[MJB12741]

Very good Ima. Finally you are beginning to get it. And I too want the Palestinians to be able to go home. So what can we do to find an incentive to offer the surrouding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return?

Yes! Those Zionists made them do it. Who in their right mind makes peace offerings to Palestinians, builds a security fence & concedes land to Palestinians so they can stay? Face it, not a single surrouding Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, ever treated them like Israel does. And then Israel wonders WHY the Palestinians prefer death over life & reward Israel with jihad's, intifadas & rocket missiles. Don't that beat all?

You ever ask yourself why they do it?

They don't want to go somewhere else, they want to go home.

 

[JStone]

I find it difficult to support or even feel any compassion whatsoever for a people who blow themselves up along with their own children while killing us infidels to honor God & educate their next generations like this ---

No need to teach them anything. It happens all by itself. Antisemitism is a disease-----you catch it from dealing with Jews.

DOUGER THE SAD IRISH DRUNK




Remember your New Year's resolution...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sf7SJMAlSs]Amy Winehouse - REHAB (live) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[MJB12741]

Hmmm. "Irish Drunk." I knew one of those on a previous board. Sure did love to play with that guy. Is it possible God has once again answered my prayers to bring him back to me again?

I find it difficult to support or even feel any compassion whatsoever for a people who blow themselves up along with their own children while killing us infidels to honor God & educate their next generations like this ---

No need to teach them anything. It happens all by itself. Antisemitism is a disease-----you catch it from dealing with Jews.

DOUGER THE SAD IRISH DRUNK




Remember your New Year's resolution...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sf7SJMAlSs]Amy Winehouse - REHAB (live) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ima]

Very good Ima. Finally you are beginning to get it. And I too want the Palestinians to be able to go home. So what can we do to find an incentive to offer the surrouding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return?

Yes! Those Zionists made them do it. Who in their right mind makes peace offerings to Palestinians, builds a security fence & concedes land to Palestinians so they can stay? Face it, not a single surrouding Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, ever treated them like Israel does. And then Israel wonders WHY the Palestinians prefer death over life & reward Israel with jihad's, intifadas & rocket missiles. Don't that beat all?

They don't want to go somewhere else, they want to go home.

Nice try. Home as in: the land their families owned pre-1947.

 

[JStone]

Very good Ima. Finally you are beginning to get it. And I too want the Palestinians to be able to go home. So what can we do to find an incentive to offer the surrouding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return?

They don't want to go somewhere else, they want to go home.

Nice try. Home as in: the land their families owned pre-1947.

Jews have owned the land of Israel dating back 3000 years.

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani Scholar, Journalist, Author and Former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today

Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence.

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state.
Global Politician - Israel?s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

PBS: Civilization and the Jews

The interaction of Jewish history and Western civilization successively assumed different forms. In the Biblical and Ancient periods, Israel was an integral part of the Near Eastern and classical world, which gave birth to Western civilization. It shared the traditions of ancient Mesopotamia and the rest of that world with regard to it’s own beginning; it benefited from the decline of Egypt and the other great Near Eastern empires to emerge as a nation in it’s own right; it asserted it’s claim to the divinely promised Land of Israel
PBS - Heritage

Harvard University Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth.

Harvard University Semitic Museum: Jerusalem During The Reign Of King Hezekiah--New Exhibition At The Semitic Museum Re-Creates Numerous Aspects Of Ancient Israel Harvard Gazette: Jerusalem during the reign of King Hezekiah

The Semitic Museum has installed a new exhibition that brings the world of biblical Israel into vivid, three-dimensional reality. "The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine" immerses the viewer in Israelite daily life around the time of King Hezekiah (8th century B.C.), creating an experiential environment based on the latest archaeological, textual, and historical research.
The centerpiece of the exhibition is a full-scale Israelite house, open on one side, filled with authentic ancient artifacts that show how life was lived by common inhabitants of ancient Jerusalem. Agricultural tools, a cooking area, and a stall occupied by a single, scruffy ram fill the ground floor of the cube-shaped, mud-brick structure, which, thankfully, is not olfactorily authentic. The upper story, reached by a ladder, is devoted to eating and sleeping.

Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press

In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.

PBS Nova ...

In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[MJB12741]

Huh??? Are you referring to the land they squatted on in Israel?

Very good Ima. Finally you are beginning to get it. And I too want the Palestinians to be able to go home. So what can we do to find an incentive to offer the surrouding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return?

They don't want to go somewhere else, they want to go home.

Nice try. Home as in: the land their families owned pre-1947.

 

[ima]

Huh??? Are you referring to the land they squatted on in Israel?

Very good Ima. Finally you are beginning to get it. And I too want the Palestinians to be able to go home. So what can we do to find an incentive to offer the surrouding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return?

Nice try. Home as in: the land their families owned pre-1947.

Israel didn't exist before 1947, so that's a no.