House Passes Volunteerism Bill Critics Call forced

[Otter_Creek]

- Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

The House of Representatives passed a measure Wednesday that supporters are calling the most sweeping reform of nationally-backed volunteer programs since AmeriCorps. But some opponents are strongly criticizing the legislation, calling it expensive indoctrination and forced advocacy.



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=h111-1388


Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”
also


Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”
In Obama's own words


“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” President Obama July 2008
Change is coming....

 

[Zoom-boing]

Anyone still think that his massive government, socialist agenda isn't his A-one, top priority?

 

[WillowTree]

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” President Obama July 2008
Change is coming....

this sounds an awful lot like a Hitler's Youth Brigade or something. I hope I'm dead before I have to watch this.

 

[jillian]

oh no... the HORROR... LOOKING INTO the feasability of people helping other people.

how suckish!!!

 

[Zoom-boing]

oh no... the HORROR... LOOKING INTO the feasability of people helping other people.

how suckish!!!

I don't have a problem with people helping others. I have a problem with the government telling me I must do this.

 

[WillowTree]

oh no... the HORROR... LOOKING INTO the feasability of people helping other people.

how suckish!!!

I don't have a problem with people helping others. I have a problem with the government telling me I must do this.

]“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” President Obama July 2008
Change is coming



The quote above has naught to do with "volunteering" to help others. What the hell exactly is a "civillian national security force"?

 

[Zoom-boing]

oh no... the HORROR... LOOKING INTO the feasability of people helping other people.

how suckish!!!

I don't have a problem with people helping others. I have a problem with the government telling me I must do this.

]“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” President Obama July 2008
Change is coming



The quote above has naught to do with "volunteering" to help others. What the hell exactly is a "civillian national security force"?

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

 

[jillian]

The quote doesn't come from the bill and is an irrelevancy. Look at the sections from the actual bill....

they're putting things together that aren't related except in their own minds.

 

[Gunny]

- Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

The House of Representatives passed a measure Wednesday that supporters are calling the most sweeping reform of nationally-backed volunteer programs since AmeriCorps. But some opponents are strongly criticizing the legislation, calling it expensive indoctrination and forced advocacy.



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=h111-1388


Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”
also


Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”
In Obama's own words


“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” President Obama July 2008
Change is coming....

What part of "mandatory service" do you NOT see as "force"?

 

[Otter_Creek]

The quote doesn't come from the bill and is an irrelevancy. Look at the sections from the actual bill....

they're putting things together that aren't related except in their own minds.

It's called perspicacity ya twinkle twat. They relate very much.

 

[Gunny]

oh no... the HORROR... LOOKING INTO the feasability of people helping other people.

how suckish!!!

It DOES suck when you FORCE people to help others. If helping others isn't of your own free will, it's pointless.

 

[editec]

One hell of you pampered nitwits would be far better people had you found yourselves having to help people.

A little humility wouldn't kill you.

 

[WillowTree]

One hell of you pampered nitwits would be far better people had you found yourselves having to help people.

A little humility wouldn't kill you.

that's a pretty judgmental statement toward a group of nitwits you don't even know donchyathink?

 

[Gunny]

One hell of you pampered nitwits would be far better people had you found yourselves having to help people.

A little humility wouldn't kill you.

I disagree. I don't see something like that teaching humility. I see it creating resentment. It's forcing a belief onto people who are supposed to free to believe what they want, so long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. That ideal does not extend to having to help others.

 

[del]

"Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”


vol⋅un⋅teer
   /ˌvɒlənˈtɪər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [vol-uhn-teer] Show IPA
–noun
1. a person who voluntarily offers himself or herself for a service or undertaking.
2. a person who performs a service willingly and without pay.
3. Military. a person who enters the service voluntarily rather than through conscription or draft, esp. for special or temporary service rather than as a member of the regular or permanent army.
4. Law.
a. a person whose actions are not founded on any legal obligation so to act.

man⋅da⋅to⋅ry
   /ˈmændəˌtɔri, -ˌtoʊri/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [man-duh-tawr-ee, -tohr-ee] Show IPA adjective, noun, plural -ries.
–adjective
1. authoritatively ordered; obligatory; compulsory: It is mandatory that all students take two years of math.
2. pertaining to, of the nature of, or containing a command.
3. Law. permitting no option; not to be disregarded or modified: a mandatory clause.
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paging george orwell.

 

[xsited1]

oh no... the HORROR... LOOKING INTO the feasability of people helping other people.

how suckish!!!

One hell of you pampered nitwits would be far better people had you found yourselves having to help people.

A little humility wouldn't kill you.

Are you two here for comic relief?

 

[jillian]

oh no... the HORROR... LOOKING INTO the feasability of people helping other people.

how suckish!!!

One hell of you pampered nitwits would be far better people had you found yourselves having to help people.

A little humility wouldn't kill you.

Are you two here for comic relief?

I thought that's your job?

 

[xsited1]

oh no... the HORROR... LOOKING INTO the feasability of people helping other people.

how suckish!!!

One hell of you pampered nitwits would be far better people had you found yourselves having to help people.

A little humility wouldn't kill you.

Are you two here for comic relief?

I thought that's your job?

It is most of the time, but you guys are cracking me up today. I thought maybe you were trolling in this thread to get a rise out of people by posting silliness. Keep up the good work!

 

[raceright]

One hell of you pampered nitwits would be far better people had you found yourselves having to help people.

A little humility wouldn't kill you.

Oh how wonderful,endearing gracious,kind,sweet,helpful,generousGo Fuck Yourself

 

[Zoom-boing]

Isn't 'forced volunteerism' an oxymoron?