House Intel Releases Parnas Docs For Trump Impeachment

[j-mac]

House Democrats released some of the documents provided to the House Judiciary, Intelligence, and Foreign Affairs Committees on Sunday by Parnas attorney Joseph Bondy, which he received from Manhattan federal prosecutor during the pretrial discovery phase of Parnas’s prosecution on criminal campaign finance charges.

The document dump opens with a handwritten note on a Ritz-Carlton Vienna-branded notepad. “Get Zalensky (sic) to Announce that the Biden case will be investigated,” the note reads.

Another note on a Ritz Carlton Vienna notepad appears to relate to Parnas’ engagement as an “interpreter” for Dmytro Firtash, the Ukrainian gas billionaire. The note contemplates hiring a “lobbiest,” naming two lobbyists as possible options.
READ: House Intel Releases Parnas Docs For Trump Impeachment
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Info in Parnas' possession is a part of the continued release of new information concerning Individual 1's impeachment.
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
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Submission of the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate should not preclude any pertinent, previously unknown evidence to be presented during the Senate trial. I'm sure Trumpette's agree with that seeing as they want to see all the evidence pointing to Crooked Donald's innocence. Wait........there isn't any of that. No wonder they don't want the trial to be a thorough examination of the facts.

If Schiff had this, why didn't he subpeona Parnas in his clown show?

I think Schiff made this up....

Schiff just received these documents from Lev Parnas' lawyer today.

Parnas was arrested just as the Ukranian Scandal broke, and initially both Lev and Igor refused to cooperate with prosecutorsand refused to provide information to the government. But then Dumb Donald did his usual "I don't even know these guys" disavowel he does whenever any of his minions get caught doing illegal shit.

Lev's feelings were incredibly hurt. He thought he had a special relationship with Trump. When Trump dissed him on national television, Lev got mad, changed lawyers, and started cooperating with the feds. This evidence is the result of Lev's hissy fit that Donnie didn't defend him.

Well, well, isn't that convenient.....But hey, probably made up documents, why not make up the back story as well....

 

[Oldstyle]

House Democrats released some of the documents provided to the House Judiciary, Intelligence, and Foreign Affairs Committees on Sunday by Parnas attorney Joseph Bondy, which he received from Manhattan federal prosecutor during the pretrial discovery phase of Parnas’s prosecution on criminal campaign finance charges.

The document dump opens with a handwritten note on a Ritz-Carlton Vienna-branded notepad. “Get Zalensky (sic) to Announce that the Biden case will be investigated,” the note reads.

Another note on a Ritz Carlton Vienna notepad appears to relate to Parnas’ engagement as an “interpreter” for Dmytro Firtash, the Ukrainian gas billionaire. The note contemplates hiring a “lobbiest,” naming two lobbyists as possible options.
READ: House Intel Releases Parnas Docs For Trump Impeachment
..................................................................................................................................
Info in Parnas' possession is a part of the continued release of new information concerning Individual 1's impeachment.
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
..........................................................................................................................................
Submission of the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate should not preclude any pertinent, previously unknown evidence to be presented during the Senate trial. I'm sure Trumpette's agree with that seeing as they want to see all the evidence pointing to Crooked Donald's innocence. Wait........there isn't any of that. No wonder they don't want the trial to be a thorough examination of the facts.

House Democrats released some of the documents provided to the House Judiciary, Intelligence, and Foreign Affairs Committees on Sunday by Parnas attorney Joseph Bondy, which he received from Manhattan federal prosecutor during the pretrial discovery phase of Parnas’s prosecution on criminal campaign finance charges.

The document dump opens with a handwritten note on a Ritz-Carlton Vienna-branded notepad. “Get Zalensky (sic) to Announce that the Biden case will be investigated,” the note reads.

Another note on a Ritz Carlton Vienna notepad appears to relate to Parnas’ engagement as an “interpreter” for Dmytro Firtash, the Ukrainian gas billionaire. The note contemplates hiring a “lobbiest,” naming two lobbyists as possible options.
READ: House Intel Releases Parnas Docs For Trump Impeachment
..................................................................................................................................
Info in Parnas' possession is a part of the continued release of new information concerning Individual 1's impeachment.
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
..........................................................................................................................................
Submission of the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate should not preclude any pertinent, previously unknown evidence to be presented during the Senate trial. I'm sure Trumpette's agree with that seeing as they want to see all the evidence pointing to Crooked Donald's innocence. Wait........there isn't any of that. No wonder they don't want the trial to be a thorough examination of the facts.

If Schiff had this, why didn't he subpeona Parnas in his clown show?

I think Schiff made this up....

The court just allowed the release of this evidence a few days ago.

There's a lot more of it.

Here’s where you can find all the stuff:

• Transmittal letter with description of materials
• Materials 1
• Materials 2

Let’s all remember that this came out just before the impeachment trial is set to begin in the Senate, where vulnerable GOP senators will have to grapple with producing the appearance of a fair proceeding. It’s another strategic win for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

A strategic "win" for Nancy? Now that's some funny shit! This whole debacle is a strategic debacle for both Nancy and the Democratic Party...you're just too clueless to realize it!

 

[SmokeALib]

Fuckin idiots.

 

[Oldstyle]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

 

[colfax_m]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

It's far more than just scribbled notes. Text messages, emails all corroborate the case Democrats have been making. Are you going to claim those are false as well?

 

[SmokeALib]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

It's far more than just scribbled notes. Text messages, emails all corroborate the case Democrats have been making. Are you going to claim those are false as well?

What case?

 

[Oldstyle]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

It's far more than just scribbled notes. Text messages, emails all corroborate the case Democrats have been making. Are you going to claim those are false as well?

What case? That Trump asked the Ukraine to look into apparent corruption by Joe Biden? That he also asked them to look into apparent collusion between the Democrats and elements in the Ukraine meddling in our elections? I'm not going to claim that ANY of that is "false"...what I'm going to state quite emphatically is that none of it is an impeachable offense! If it is then kindly explain why the Obama Administration looking into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians (which they KNEW was based on lies paid for by the Clinton campaign!) wasn't an impeachable offense five years ago!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

House Democrats released some of the documents provided to the House Judiciary, Intelligence, and Foreign Affairs Committees on Sunday by Parnas attorney Joseph Bondy, which he received from Manhattan federal prosecutor during the pretrial discovery phase of Parnas’s prosecution on criminal campaign finance charges.

The document dump opens with a handwritten note on a Ritz-Carlton Vienna-branded notepad. “Get Zalensky (sic) to Announce that the Biden case will be investigated,” the note reads.

Another note on a Ritz Carlton Vienna notepad appears to relate to Parnas’ engagement as an “interpreter” for Dmytro Firtash, the Ukrainian gas billionaire. The note contemplates hiring a “lobbiest,” naming two lobbyists as possible options.
READ: House Intel Releases Parnas Docs For Trump Impeachment
..................................................................................................................................
Info in Parnas' possession is a part of the continued release of new information concerning Individual 1's impeachment.
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
..........................................................................................................................................
Submission of the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate should not preclude any pertinent, previously unknown evidence to be presented during the Senate trial. I'm sure Trumpette's agree with that seeing as they want to see all the evidence pointing to Crooked Donald's innocence. Wait........there isn't any of that. No wonder they don't want the trial to be a thorough examination of the facts.

If Schiff had this, why didn't he subpeona Parnas in his clown show?

I think Schiff made this up....

He didn't have it until recently. "House Democrats released some of the documents provided to the House Judiciary, Intelligence, and Foreign Affairs Committees on Sunday by Parnas attorney Joseph Bondy."

If you read what I posted you'd know that. Have any other uninformed comments?

Too late. You cannot go back and impeach him again. He had his shot and blew his load in his pants. He doesn't get to try to get in his pants again!

 

[Oldstyle]

This whole thing is a joke and it has been from the start! Polls show quite plainly that the American people recognize that fact even if you don't.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The House's job is to investigate and create a xase. The Senate's job is to perform as the Jury to evaluate the House's case and render a decision. It is not the Senate's job to do the House's work.

I hear that from Trumpette's all the time. It's complete bullshit. Nothing prevents the Senate from adding documentary evidence or witness testimony to the record except Repub's desire not to hear any more of the already overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt.

Wrong. It's called "discovery" and that ended with the impeachment vote. You cannot unring a bell.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

It's far more than just scribbled notes. Text messages, emails all corroborate the case Democrats have been making. Are you going to claim those are false as well?

If that were true, it is still too late.

 

[berg80]

House Democrats released some of the documents provided to the House Judiciary, Intelligence, and Foreign Affairs Committees on Sunday by Parnas attorney Joseph Bondy, which he received from Manhattan federal prosecutor during the pretrial discovery phase of Parnas’s prosecution on criminal campaign finance charges.

The document dump opens with a handwritten note on a Ritz-Carlton Vienna-branded notepad. “Get Zalensky (sic) to Announce that the Biden case will be investigated,” the note reads.

Another note on a Ritz Carlton Vienna notepad appears to relate to Parnas’ engagement as an “interpreter” for Dmytro Firtash, the Ukrainian gas billionaire. The note contemplates hiring a “lobbiest,” naming two lobbyists as possible options.
READ: House Intel Releases Parnas Docs For Trump Impeachment
..................................................................................................................................
Info in Parnas' possession is a part of the continued release of new information concerning Individual 1's impeachment.
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
..........................................................................................................................................
Submission of the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate should not preclude any pertinent, previously unknown evidence to be presented during the Senate trial. I'm sure Trumpette's agree with that seeing as they want to see all the evidence pointing to Crooked Donald's innocence. Wait........there isn't any of that. No wonder they don't want the trial to be a thorough examination of the facts.

If Schiff had this, why didn't he subpeona Parnas in his clown show?

I think Schiff made this up....

Schiff just received these documents from Lev Parnas' lawyer today.

Parnas was arrested just as the Ukranian Scandal broke, and initially both Lev and Igor refused to cooperate with prosecutorsand refused to provide information to the government. But then Dumb Donald did his usual "I don't even know these guys" disavowel he does whenever any of his minions get caught doing illegal shit.

Lev's feelings were incredibly hurt. He thought he had a special relationship with Trump. When Trump dissed him on national television, Lev got mad, changed lawyers, and started cooperating with the feds. This evidence is the result of Lev's hissy fit that Donnie didn't defend him.

Well, well, isn't that convenient.....But hey, probably made up documents, why not make up the back story as well....

So......Parnas is under indictment by the SDNY. His lawyer has been asking the SDNY to allow him to release documents to the House Intel Committee, permission for which was granted on a limited amount of documents. That is why the House didn't receive the documents until Sunday. The info, if it can be verified, is obviously pertinent to the impeachment proceeding so members of the committee wanted to make sure they would be passed along to the Senate along with the Articles of Impeachment.

In some ways these documents provide more questions than answers. Obviously the material needs to be authenticated. BUT, LIKE ALL THE INFORMATION DISCLOSED THUS FAR, IT POINTS TO TRUMP'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE SCHEME TO EXTORT ZELENSKY FOR PERSONAL POLITICAL GAIN.

 

[berg80]

Among the revelations in the documents released Tuesday: a message from Giuliani to Parnas saying he had involved a person he called “no 1” — possibly Trump himself — in an effort to lift a U.S. visa ban on a former Ukrainian prosecutor who was planning to come to the United States to make claims about Biden.

In gambit for Trump, Giuliani engaged parade of Ukrainian prosecutors

The materials also include a letter Giuliani wrote to Ukraine’s then-president-elect, Volodymyr Zelensky, requesting a May 14 meeting with the new leader in Giuliani’s “capacity as personal counsel to President Trump and with his knowledge and consent.” Giuliani scrapped his planned trip, and the meeting never took place.


Another document released by the House investigators appears to show Parnas directly involved with efforts to get Zelensky to announce investigations related to Biden.

In handwritten notes on a piece of stationery from the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna, Parnas wrote, “get Zalenksy [sic] to Annouce [sic] that the Biden case will be Investigated.”

“All of this new evidence confirms what we already know: the President and his associates pressured Ukrainian officials to announce investigations that would benefit the President politically,” the chairs of the House Intelligence, Oversight, Judiciary and Foreign Affairs Committees said in a joint statement. “There cannot be a full and fair trial in the Senate without the documents that President Trump is refusing to provide to Congress.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...45d19e-371e-11ea-9541-9107303481a4_story.html

 

[colfax_m]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

It's far more than just scribbled notes. Text messages, emails all corroborate the case Democrats have been making. Are you going to claim those are false as well?

What case?

If you don’t know by now, I doubt anything I can do will change that.

 

[berg80]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

It's far more than just scribbled notes. Text messages, emails all corroborate the case Democrats have been making. Are you going to claim those are false as well?

What case?

If you don’t know by now, I doubt anything I can do will change that.

Obviously, Trumpette's are increasingly annoyed as more and more evidence corroborates the fact that Trump directed a scheme to extort Ukraine..................and got caught.

 

[colfax_m]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

It's far more than just scribbled notes. Text messages, emails all corroborate the case Democrats have been making. Are you going to claim those are false as well?

What case? That Trump asked the Ukraine to look into apparent corruption by Joe Biden? That he also asked them to look into apparent collusion between the Democrats and elements in the Ukraine meddling in our elections? I'm not going to claim that ANY of that is "false"...what I'm going to state quite emphatically is that none of it is an impeachable offense! If it is then kindly explain why the Obama Administration looking into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians (which they KNEW was based on lies paid for by the Clinton campaign!) wasn't an impeachable offense five years ago!

Did Obama order the DoJ to investigate the Trump campaign when the DoJ had no interest or intention to do so? Did Obama order the DoJ to work with campaign staff from Clinton to keep them informed of the status? Did Obama demand the DoJ announce the investigation into the Trump campaign? Did Obama prevent anyone from discussing these matters with Congress?

The answer to all these questions is no. That’s the difference.

 

[colfax_m]

The House's job is to investigate and create a xase. The Senate's job is to perform as the Jury to evaluate the House's case and render a decision. It is not the Senate's job to do the House's work.

I hear that from Trumpette's all the time. It's complete bullshit. Nothing prevents the Senate from adding documentary evidence or witness testimony to the record except Repub's desire not to hear any more of the already overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt.

Wrong. It's called "discovery" and that ended with the impeachment vote. You cannot unring a bell.

You’re not a lawyer, are you?

 

[colfax_m]

So we have stuff from a left rag that claims notes which could have been written by anyone is earth shattering news.

Geesh. You've become so conditioned to reject anything that adds to the evidence of Trump's guilt it's like a reflex reaction.

WASHINGTON — On the eve of a historic impeachment trial, new details emerged of President Trump’s campaign to solicit political interference from Ukraine, intensifying pressure on Senate Republicans to include witness testimony and additional documents in their proceeding.

Even as Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a Wednesday vote to name House prosecutors and send the articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate for the long-awaited start of the trial, Democrats released a tranche of previously unseen records that bolstered their case.

It included dozens of pages of notes, text messages and other records provided to the Intelligence Committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, detailing work the men did in Ukraine on behalf of the president.

Among them were handwritten notes scrawled on a sheet of hotel paper at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna that mention getting President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to announce an investigation of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son, and a May 2019 letter from Mr. Giuliani requesting a meeting with Mr. Zelensky in which he said Mr. Trump had “knowledge and consent” of his actions.
House to Send Impeachment Charges to Senate as New Evidence Emerges

It's fine to be skeptical about some of the info until its authenticity can be verified. But dismissing it out of hand is..........oh wait...........it's what Trumpers do with incriminating evidence that is revealed.

We're "skeptical" because you on the left have lied about this stuff so often it's become farce at this point! How many times do you think a rational person should believe you when time after time you're shown to have lied? You think anyone should believe anything that comes out of Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler or Nancy Pelosis mouths at this point? Why?

It's far more than just scribbled notes. Text messages, emails all corroborate the case Democrats have been making. Are you going to claim those are false as well?

If that were true, it is still too late.

Says who?

 

[berg80]

The House's job is to investigate and create a xase. The Senate's job is to perform as the Jury to evaluate the House's case and render a decision. It is not the Senate's job to do the House's work.

I hear that from Trumpette's all the time. It's complete bullshit. Nothing prevents the Senate from adding documentary evidence or witness testimony to the record except Repub's desire not to hear any more of the already overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt.

Wrong. It's called "discovery" and that ended with the impeachment vote. You cannot unring a bell.

You folks want to have it both ways. Sometimes arguing the Senate trial is a legal proceeding, sometimes not. That inconsistency is a sign you keep needing the switch defenses because neither of them is working for you.

 

[Maxdeath]

House Democrats released some of the documents provided to the House Judiciary, Intelligence, and Foreign Affairs Committees on Sunday by Parnas attorney Joseph Bondy, which he received from Manhattan federal prosecutor during the pretrial discovery phase of Parnas’s prosecution on criminal campaign finance charges.

The document dump opens with a handwritten note on a Ritz-Carlton Vienna-branded notepad. “Get Zalensky (sic) to Announce that the Biden case will be investigated,” the note reads.

Another note on a Ritz Carlton Vienna notepad appears to relate to Parnas’ engagement as an “interpreter” for Dmytro Firtash, the Ukrainian gas billionaire. The note contemplates hiring a “lobbiest,” naming two lobbyists as possible options.
READ: House Intel Releases Parnas Docs For Trump Impeachment
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Info in Parnas' possession is a part of the continued release of new information concerning Individual 1's impeachment.
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
New Ukraine revelations hang over impeachment trial
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Submission of the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate should not preclude any pertinent, previously unknown evidence to be presented during the Senate trial. I'm sure Trumpette's agree with that seeing as they want to see all the evidence pointing to Crooked Donald's innocence. Wait........there isn't any of that. No wonder they don't want the trial to be a thorough examination of the facts.

If Schiff had this, why didn't he subpeona Parnas in his clown show?

I think Schiff made this up....

Schiff just received these documents from Lev Parnas' lawyer today.

Parnas was arrested just as the Ukranian Scandal broke, and initially both Lev and Igor refused to cooperate with prosecutorsand refused to provide information to the government. But then Dumb Donald did his usual "I don't even know these guys" disavowel he does whenever any of his minions get caught doing illegal shit.

Lev's feelings were incredibly hurt. He thought he had a special relationship with Trump. When Trump dissed him on national television, Lev got mad, changed lawyers, and started cooperating with the feds. This evidence is the result of Lev's hissy fit that Donnie didn't defend him.

Well, well, isn't that convenient.....But hey, probably made up documents, why not make up the back story as well....

So......Parnas is under indictment by the SDNY. His lawyer has been asking the SDNY to allow him to release documents to the House Intel Committee, permission for which was granted on a limited amount of documents. That is why the House didn't receive the documents until Sunday. The info, if it can be verified, is obviously pertinent to the impeachment proceeding so members of the committee wanted to make sure they would be passed along to the Senate along with the Articles of Impeachment.

In some ways these documents provide more questions than answers. Obviously the material needs to be authenticated. BUT, LIKE ALL THE INFORMATION DISCLOSED THUS FAR, IT POINTS TO TRUMP'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE SCHEME TO EXTORT ZELENSKY FOR PERSONAL POLITICAL GAIN.

Let's look at your so called evedince.
You have things from, shall we be kind and call him a shifty person, that not only unverified but really too good to be true. It comes out after the trial has taken place.
It is brought out by a fellow that claimed for years that he had absolute proof that Trump conspired with Russia that has never seen the light of day. We will call this person, again to be kind, questionable. So in short we have unverified material that a shifty person has that they should not have but somehow has. The material shows up late and is somehow like the shining light from above. It comes from a questionable source. Do you see anything at all strange?

Now let's look at your idea that it needs to be brought up during the Senate phase. Unless it can be verified it is just junk. It holds no value.
You want witnesses called by the jury you want something of no value added to the case. 250 years of juris prudence tells us that that can not be done legally. But let's lay that aside for one moment. Why stop with the witnesses the democrats want? I want Watters on the stand, find out why she called for Trump to be impeached so early. Put Pelosi on the stand, find out why she has been trying to impeach for 21/2 years. Put Shiff on, way too many questions to type here. Put Biden on the stand, too many questions to type. Same with 44. In fact let's get most of the democrat party on the stand, we need to get to the bottom of every donor, every kickback, every bribe. We need to know every trip, hotel room, every meal not paid for by them. Let's drag this thing out for the next ten years. Hillary would make a great witness, so would Bill and his Tarmac meting.

But in reality you people have told us for years so many times that you have the smoking gun. The Steele dosiier, Mueller, Stormy Daniels to name just a few. We have heard from every conspiracy left rag, website that you have him now so many times no one pays attention.