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The opposition to the required use of CF bulbs have made a big deal about the mercury content and it's effect on the environment. Today the average CF contains 4mg of mercury. Some of the new CF's contain 1 to 2mg. By comparison a mercury thermometer contains 500mg.
Most mercury vapor inside fluorescent light bulbs becomes bound to the inside of the light bulb as it is used. EPA estimates that the rest of the mercury within a CFL about 11 percent is released into air or water when it is sent to a landfill, assuming the light bulb is broken. Therefore, if all 272 million CFLs
sold in 2009 were sent to a landfill (versus recycled, as a worst case) they would add 0.12 metric tons, or 0.12 percent, to U.S. mercury emissions caused by humans. And this is only if the bulbs are not recycled.
http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/promotions/change_light/downloads/Fact_Sheet_Mercury.pdf
Dems banned these bulbs????
Major Wrong.
The bill was signed in 2007. The bill was signed by the shrub, who was in the White House in 2007.
Jeez, you guys would lie about water being wet if Dems said something different.
What business is that of yours or the gubmint's?The incandescents don't last very long.
....I have track lighting in my mancave, I have had 4 incans and 2 cfls, I have replaced one cfl and one incan since I have installed them and the incans have been there much longer.
I'm talking about this particular energy efficiency guideline.
Did you people cry when a/c, freezers, etc. were forced to be made energy efficient?
I'm talking about this particular energy efficiency guideline.
Did you people cry when a/c, freezers, etc. were forced to be made energy efficient?
yes I did and do, freon was the best, I am old enough to remember freon car AC and it was a GREAT deal colder.
72 degrees is 72 degrees.
Get rid of the ban and let the markets decide. If people want CFLs, they can buy them; and ditto for incandescents.
Once a better technology comes out it will replace standard incandescents. Trying to force technological change via legislation should be a last resort, not some feel good crap you use to play to a part of your base.
Why am I not surprised they'd waste time on that silly issue? It's simple enough that even dim lightbulbs like the noob Republicans can understand. I suppose once they repeal new lightbulbs, they'll crowd around the microphones and tell us all how smart they are.
Get rid of the ban and let the markets decide. If people want CFLs, they can buy them; and ditto for incandescents.
Once a better technology comes out it will replace standard incandescents. Trying to force technological change via legislation should be a last resort, not some feel good crap you use to play to a part of your base.
All the ban accomplished was to make light bulbs more expensive, destroy U.S. based jobs, move jobs to China, and enrich GE.
I'm talking about this particular energy efficiency guideline.
Did you people cry when a/c, freezers, etc. were forced to be made energy efficient?
yes I did and do, freon was the best, I am old enough to remember freon car AC and it was a GREAT deal colder.
That's not the fault of the lack of freon.yes I did and do, freon was the best, I am old enough to remember freon car AC and it was a GREAT deal colder.
I didn't mention a set temperature, I said it was COLDER.
my 2 cars never seem to get as cold as it did in the olden day,I seriously doubt they ever get down to 65 or 66, if I set it to say 67 in my wifes car that has a gauge its takes a lonnnnnnngggg time to get there, nor does it get as cold as quickly.
I hope we never see the day in this country when you are unable to get a hummer
I donno why, but this reminded me of when P. Diddy was all up in arms about oil prices. It was too expensive to fly a charter plane. Let's deport him to Saudi Arabia.
"Gas prices are too motherfucking high," Diddy complained. "As you know, I do own my own jet and I have been having flying back and forth to LA pursuing my acting career. Now, if I'm flying back and forth, like, twice in a month thats like $200,000 or $250,000 round trip. FUCK that. I'm back on American Airlines."
He then appealed to oil-producing countries to send him some oil so he could fly his plane.
He said: "I want to give a shout out to all my Saudi Arabian brothers and sisters and all my brothers and sisters from all the countries that have oil, if you could all please send me some oil for my jet I would truly appreciate it."
He also said that the fact that he, P Diddy, was flying commercial is evidence that the prices have got out of control, reports Dlisted.
"Right now, can you believe it, I am actually flying commercial. That's how high gas prices are OK, so I feel you. Look, I'm at the gate right now. This is proof that gas prices are too high, we need to do something about it, so tell whoever the next president is that we need to bring gas back down."
I don't care.....
But speaking for all men, I think it is a right not just to get a hummer, but to get as many hummers as you possibly can. It may take more energy to get a hummer, but I can tell you from experience ...it is worth it
Some may find hummers to be in bad taste, even messy
But you should not deny the freedom to get yourself a hummer if you want one
The new ones won't fit in my light fixtures.
Some are too tall for some lampshades, but I have them in every room, even over the stove. And they fit in the sockets.
Texas has already passed a resolution that will scoff at the ban and allow citizens of that state to choose whatever bulb they want.
This ban is as toxic as they come...what's next?
at work, we have a huge staircase, 6 floors open skeletal structure , there are lights every oh, 25 feet all the way up on the bottom of the stairwells...they are the huge cfl type, 150 watt full spectrum jobs....30 bucks a pop.
there are approx. 35 of them according to the bdlg fac. guy. he replaces them every 6 months. Thats a no shitter, he doesn't know why, they never get turned off, so there are no on off discharge aspects, hes tries a few different vendors.....
I work at a "green rated bdlg" all the stars etc etc. built just 5 years ago.
Guess what? He has approval to go to incandescent.
Oh and the 'piss cylinder' non flush toilets were torn out and replaced last year, at a cost of, get ready................... 600K.
The light bulb issue seems in itself a pretty silly issue. The real issue is this. Control. It's my business what kind of a light bulb I use in my house. Same thing with french fries. I could give a shit less what they are fried in as long as they taste good. Talk of taxing soda pop just because it isn't "healthy". The government is taking control of our lives and this is what bothers me more than a stupid light bulb. It's time to draw a line in the sand. The market should dictate what is bought and sold in the US - not the government.
AsiaIn some parts of the world, plastic bags, Hummers, and energy inefficient light bulbs are things of an uncivilized past.
No wonder Europe likes to make fun of us. :/
Europe? All of them?
Or do you mean Greece (bankrupt)? Or Spain (bankrupt)? Or Portugal (bankrupt)? Or Italy (bankrupt)? Or Iceland (bankrupt)?
Why should we give a shit what Europeans think of us?
[edit]India
While not a complete ban, the plan is to replace 400 million incandescent light bulbs with CFLs by 2012. The energy savings and resultant carbon emissions savings is expected to be around 55 million tonnes per year [8]
The states of Tamil Nadu and Karnataka in India have banned the use of incandescent bulbs in government departments, public sector undertakings, various boards, cooperative institutions, local bodies, and institutions running on government aid.[9][10]
[edit]Philippines
In February 2008, president Gloria Macapagal Arroyo called for a ban of incandescent light bulbs by 2010 in favor of more energy-efficient fluorescent globes to help cut greenhouse gas emissions and household costs during her closing remarks at the Philippine Energy Summit. Once put in effect, the country will be the first in Asia to do so.[11]
[edit]Malaysia
The Government will stop all production, import and sales of incandescent light bulbs by or before January 2014, as part of efforts to save power and to help cut greenhouse gas emissions.[7]
[edit]Europe
[edit]European Union
The initial Europe wide ban only applies to general-purpose, non-directional incandescent bulbs, so does not affect any bulbs with reflective surfaces (e.g. spotlights and halogen down lighters) or special purpose bulbs including those used in ovens, fridges, traffic lights, infrared lamps etc. The sale of the most inefficient bulbs will be phased out. The first types to go are non-clear (frosted) bulbs, which would be off the market by September 2009. Also from September 2009 clear bulbs over 100W must be made of more efficient types. This limit will be moved down to lower wattages, and the efficiency levels raised by the end of 2012.[12] Also, the EU has given the target of 2016 to phase out halogen bulbs, and any bulb available for purchase after the 2016 date must have at least a 'B' energy rating.[13] The Finnish parliament discussed banning sales of incandescent light bulbs by the beginning of 2011.[14]
[edit]Ireland
The Irish government was the first European Union (EU) member state to stop the sale of incandescent light bulbs.[15] It was later announced that all member states of the EU agreed to a progressive phase-out of incandescent light bulbs by 2012.[16]
[edit]Switzerland
Switzerland banned the sale of all light bulbs of the Energy Efficiency Class F and G, which affects a few types of incandescent light bulbs. Most normal light bulbs are of Energy Efficiency Class E, and the Swiss regulation has exceptions for various kinds of special-purpose and decorative bulbs.[17][18]
[edit]United Kingdom
The UK government announced in 2007 that incandescent bulbs would be phased out by 2011.[19]
[edit]North America
[edit]Canada
The provincial government of Nova Scotia stated in February 2007 that it would like to move towards preventing the sale of incandescent light bulbs in the province.[20]
In April 2007, Ontario's Minister of Energy Dwight Duncan announced the provincial government's intention to ban the sale of incandescent light bulbs by 2012.[21]
Later in April, the federal government announced that it would ban the sale of inefficient incandescent light bulbs nation-wide by 2012 as part of a plan to cut down on emissions of greenhouse gases. The plan is expected to save the average homeowner $50 a year on the electricity bill. [22]
In January 2011, the province of British Columbia banned retailers from ordering 75- or 100-watt incandescent bulbs.[23]
The nation's Energy Efficiency Regulations are published on the Natural Resources Canada website.[24]
[edit]Cuba
Cuba exchanged all incandescent light bulbs for CFLs, and banned the sale and import of them in 2005.[1]
[edit]United States
[edit]Individual state efforts
California will phase out the use of incandescent bulbs by 2018 as part of bill by California State Assembly member Jared Huffman (D-Santa Rosa) that was signed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger on October 12, 2007. The bill aims to establish a minimum standard of twenty-five lumens per watt by 2013 and sixty lumens per watt by 2018.[25][26]
Connecticut legislation was proposed by state Representative Mary M. Mushinsky (D-Wallingford).[27][28]
New Jersey Assemblyman Larry Chatzidakis introduced a bill on February 8, 2007 that calls for the state to eliminate incandescent bulbs in government buildings over the next three years. Chatzidakis said, "The light bulb was invented a long time ago and a lot of things have changed since then. I obviously respect the memory of Thomas Edison, but what we're looking at here is using less energy."[29]
[edit]Federal legislation
In December 2007, many of these state efforts became moot when the federal government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which requires all general-purpose light bulbs that produce 3102600 lumens of light[30] be 30% more energy efficient (similar to current halogen lamps) than current incandescent bulbs by 2012 to 2014. The efficiency standards will start with 100-watt bulbs in January 2012 and end with 40-watt bulbs in January 2014.
Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt are several classes of specialty lights, including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, and plant lights.
By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, which requires all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to current CFLs). Exemptions from the Act include reflector flood, 3-way, candelabra, colored, and other specialty bulbs.[31]
[edit]Oceania
[edit]Australia
In February 2007, Australia enacted a law that will, in effect, by legislating efficiency standards, disallow most sales of incandescent light bulbs by 2010.[32] The Australian Federal Government announced minimum energy performance standards (MEPS) for lighting products. The new minimum standard efficiency level is 15 lumens per watt (lm/W). From November 2008, no non-compliant lighting (including some incandescent globes) were imported into Australia, and from November 2009, the retail sale of non-compliant lighting was banned.[33] According to the current proposal,[34] all regular light bulbs and some other kinds of light bulbs sold from October 2009 have to meet the new minimum energy performance standards. Incandescent light bulbs that meet the new standards, for example high-efficiency halogen bulbs, continue to be available.[35]
It is estimated that greenhouse gas emissions will be cut by 800,000 tonnes (Australia's current emission total is 564.7 million tonnes), a saving of approximately 0.14%.[36]
There have been some initiatives to encourage people to switch to compact fluorescent lamps ahead of the phase out.[37]
[edit]New Zealand
In February 2007, then Climate Change Minister David Parker announced a similar proposal to the one in Australia,[38] except that importation for personal use would have been allowed.[39] However, this proposal was scrapped by the new government in December 2008.[40]
[edit]South America
[edit]Argentina
In Argentina, selling and importing incandescent light bulbs has been forbidden since 31 December 2010.[41]
[edit]Venezuela
As part of its electricity conservation program, Venezuela has a light bulb exchange program, which aims to replace millions of incandescent bulbs with compact fluorescents.[42]
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Phase-out of incandescent light bulbs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
saw a blurb yesterday, NYC requires you, when disposing of a cfl to bring it to the dump and they have a special bin....survey says? not a chance of that happening.
ok, then please tell me, in your own words, why you think this is the RIGHT thing to do? Please explain to me, so i can understand, why being the only country in the world, to be left using the incandescent light bulb, that truly does waste energy, a good thing?At $275,000 Per Job created,it would be wise to not offer anymore Government "Help" on Job-Creation. We just can't afford anymore of their "Help." Also,banning light bulbs in the first place was useless crap. This is the right thing to do and definitely not useless.
the negatives that i can see with the florescent light bulb:
the light they cast is harsh and not soft enough on the stronger bulbs and they don't cast enough light on the lower watt bulbs.
and
when you break them, they have the poisonous Mercury in them and the clean up is a bitch...I broke one, right on the stove!
outside of those 2 things, on the positive... they do cut our energy use down as a nation, and are greener...
I am hoping that LED lights will be better....
Care...are you aware that at the time in 2008 ( booosh
china.
read please some of my posts above, the ban was a total whack job, its ridiculous. there is 5 mg of mercury in each bulb depending on size. mercury is bad ju ju..
