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This is simply untrue if the states have to force kids into public schools and they DO.Kids go to public schools because the state can assemble qualified instructors in various subjectsExcept that in this case you have it quite backwards.The state is not in the role of the parents.
If all parents were involved in public schools, education would be in good shape.
When parents ignore schools, the state will step in.
The state has striven to TAKE control of kids from parents and not due to any lack of involvement by parents. When parents are discouraged from taking part of or control of their kids education why should they be involved?
From the creation of kindergarten ( borrowed from germany ) to school busing to end natural segregation to the creation of the federal department of education the state has made it very clear they do not want parents involved or to have any control over their kids.
They have even made it a crime in most states to NOT educate one's kids. This seems logical on it;s surface, after all any decent parent wants a batter life for their kids and education is an important part of that.
However when far too many schools in the inner cities are cesspools of gangs and drugs and violence some parents may reasonably conclude that it is better to spend what time is possible with their kid in a library trying to teach them something rather than sending them to a physically dangerous state run holding area where no education is imparted anyways.
We see massive evidence that parents DO care about their kids education and want the best for their kids. The problem is the state is NOT interested in what they want and assumes the parents are not wise enough to decide what is best and so the parents are ignored.
When charter schools were very popular parents would camp out all night on the curb in long lines to try and get their kids into one and often those parents were lower income minorities who saw it is a good opportunity for their kids.
The state refuses to cede control of schools and kids however so the narrative that parents are not involved is a fallacy. The state does not want parents involved and will not allow it.
It also frees up parents to work
First of all... Our public school system has made our nation the greatest in the world
Secondly, nobody is forced to use the public school system
Standards and curriculum are different, though.I love it when fake makes an idiot of himself and then says something random to try to divert attention from his stupidity.
Private schools are free to make and choose their own curriculum. That's crucial
Actually, that is not true. Most have minimum standards set by the state as to what constitutes an education.
I love it when fake makes an idiot of himself and then says something random to try to divert attention from his stupidity.
Private schools are free to make and choose their own curriculum. That's crucial
Actually, that is not true. Most have minimum standards set by the state as to what constitutes an education.
Private schools meet and exceed mimimum standards. And in the process tells the government to pound sand
AgreeOf course. Some home school parents are concerned and capable of giving their children a great education. The one on one teaching is much better than a large class. However, it's wrong to say all parents are educated enough to give their children a quality education, and pointing to the ones lucky enough to have parents do as the expected outcome of home schooling is just wrong. With required standards home schooling could be a great idea. Without them lots of children are missing the chance at a better, more productive life.
You don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.
Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
So if public schools are bad, It's OK with you that home schoolers don't even have to be at least that good?
AgreeYou don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.
Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
Fine....if they are doing better, great for themPublic school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
If mom home schools because she does not like to get up in the morning and class consists of watching TV all day then the kids should be placed in public schoolSo...they will be SO prepared for those things as an adult in the work force.Home schooled students do not have the distractions of bullying, violence, pressure to use drugs, as public schooled children. That's why they do so much better.
Homeschoolers Win High-school Mock Trial Championship
HSLDA | Homeschool Wins IT Competition; Spurs National DebateSuch things are usually not tolerated in most workplaces so yes they will be better prepared.So...they will be SO prepared for those things as an adult in the work force.Home schooled students do not have the distractions of bullying, violence, pressure to use drugs, as public schooled children. That's why they do so much better.
Homeschoolers Win High-school Mock Trial Championship
HSLDA | Homeschool Wins IT Competition; Spurs National Debate
And we know that all parents teach their kids to behave properly.
Free public school education has been the great equalizer in this countryThis is simply untrue if the states have to force kids into public schools and they DO.Kids go to public schools because the state can assemble qualified instructors in various subjectsExcept that in this case you have it quite backwards.The state is not in the role of the parents.
If all parents were involved in public schools, education would be in good shape.
When parents ignore schools, the state will step in.
The state has striven to TAKE control of kids from parents and not due to any lack of involvement by parents. When parents are discouraged from taking part of or control of their kids education why should they be involved?
From the creation of kindergarten ( borrowed from germany ) to school busing to end natural segregation to the creation of the federal department of education the state has made it very clear they do not want parents involved or to have any control over their kids.
They have even made it a crime in most states to NOT educate one's kids. This seems logical on it;s surface, after all any decent parent wants a batter life for their kids and education is an important part of that.
However when far too many schools in the inner cities are cesspools of gangs and drugs and violence some parents may reasonably conclude that it is better to spend what time is possible with their kid in a library trying to teach them something rather than sending them to a physically dangerous state run holding area where no education is imparted anyways.
We see massive evidence that parents DO care about their kids education and want the best for their kids. The problem is the state is NOT interested in what they want and assumes the parents are not wise enough to decide what is best and so the parents are ignored.
When charter schools were very popular parents would camp out all night on the curb in long lines to try and get their kids into one and often those parents were lower income minorities who saw it is a good opportunity for their kids.
The state refuses to cede control of schools and kids however so the narrative that parents are not involved is a fallacy. The state does not want parents involved and will not allow it.
It also frees up parents to work
First of all... Our public school system has made our nation the greatest in the world
Secondly, nobody is forced to use the public school system
First of all that is very arguable. While no one I know of is claiming education in general is a bad thing your assertion that it is THE cause of American greatness is a dubious and highly ignorant statement.
Second yes many ARE forced to do so through truancy laws.
AgreeOf course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
What results would those be? The ones touted by homeschoolers to slap themselves on the back and tell each other what a great job they are doing? Are those the stats that have no basis in reality because of the bias in their methods?
Fine....if they are doing better, great for themAgree
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
If mom home schools because she does not like to get up in the morning and class consists of watching TV all day then the kids should be placed in public school
So...they will be SO prepared for those things as an adult in the work force.Home schooled students do not have the distractions of bullying, violence, pressure to use drugs, as public schooled children. That's why they do so much better.
Homeschoolers Win High-school Mock Trial Championship
HSLDA | Homeschool Wins IT Competition; Spurs National Debate
Such things are usually not tolerated in most workplaces so yes they will be better prepared.[/QUOTE]So...they will be SO prepared for those things as an adult in the work force.Home schooled students do not have the distractions of bullying, violence, pressure to use drugs, as public schooled children. That's why they do so much better.
Homeschoolers Win High-school Mock Trial Championship
HSLDA | Homeschool Wins IT Competition; Spurs National Debate
AgreeOf course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
Homeschooled kids do better? Why do homeschooler continue to propagate this lie? For every kid that wins the national spelling bee or geography bee, there is another kid who was homeschooled because momma and baby daddy got tired of getting phone calls from the school telling them their little bastard ditched school again and they are going to lock the parents up for truancy. That kid never gets tested and never shows up in the stats because they never graduate.
Fine....if they are doing better, great for themPublic school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
If mom home schools because she does not like to get up in the morning and class consists of watching TV all day then the kids should be placed in public schoolSo...they will be SO prepared for those things as an adult in the work force.Home schooled students do not have the distractions of bullying, violence, pressure to use drugs, as public schooled children. That's why they do so much better.
Homeschoolers Win High-school Mock Trial Championship
HSLDA | Homeschool Wins IT Competition; Spurs National DebateSuch things are usually not tolerated in most workplaces so yes they will be better prepared.So...they will be SO prepared for those things as an adult in the work force.Home schooled students do not have the distractions of bullying, violence, pressure to use drugs, as public schooled children. That's why they do so much better.
Homeschoolers Win High-school Mock Trial Championship
HSLDA | Homeschool Wins IT Competition; Spurs National Debate
Hilarious!
And once again that is merely a general opinion not something which can be demonstrated.Free public school education has been the great equalizer in this countryThis is simply untrue if the states have to force kids into public schools and they DO.Kids go to public schools because the state can assemble qualified instructors in various subjectsExcept that in this case you have it quite backwards.
The state has striven to TAKE control of kids from parents and not due to any lack of involvement by parents. When parents are discouraged from taking part of or control of their kids education why should they be involved?
From the creation of kindergarten ( borrowed from germany ) to school busing to end natural segregation to the creation of the federal department of education the state has made it very clear they do not want parents involved or to have any control over their kids.
They have even made it a crime in most states to NOT educate one's kids. This seems logical on it;s surface, after all any decent parent wants a batter life for their kids and education is an important part of that.
However when far too many schools in the inner cities are cesspools of gangs and drugs and violence some parents may reasonably conclude that it is better to spend what time is possible with their kid in a library trying to teach them something rather than sending them to a physically dangerous state run holding area where no education is imparted anyways.
We see massive evidence that parents DO care about their kids education and want the best for their kids. The problem is the state is NOT interested in what they want and assumes the parents are not wise enough to decide what is best and so the parents are ignored.
When charter schools were very popular parents would camp out all night on the curb in long lines to try and get their kids into one and often those parents were lower income minorities who saw it is a good opportunity for their kids.
The state refuses to cede control of schools and kids however so the narrative that parents are not involved is a fallacy. The state does not want parents involved and will not allow it.
It also frees up parents to work
First of all... Our public school system has made our nation the greatest in the world
Secondly, nobody is forced to use the public school system
First of all that is very arguable. While no one I know of is claiming education in general is a bad thing your assertion that it is THE cause of American greatness is a dubious and highly ignorant statement.
Second yes many ARE forced to do so through truancy laws.
AgreeYou don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.
Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
So if public schools are bad, It's OK with you that home schoolers don't even have to be at least that good?
Yes it is.
Home schoolers overwhelmingly ARE in fact better educated than public schools which merely goes to show when people are left alone they will manage for themselves without state coercion which invariably fails
AgreeYou don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.
Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
So if public schools are bad, It's OK with you that home schoolers don't even have to be at least that good?
Yes it is.
***Home schoolers overwhelmingly ARE in fact better educated than public schools which merely goes to show when people are left alone they will manage for themselves without state coercion which invariably fails
I think most American parents do fit the bill.I think many parents can make great homeschool teachers. Ones that are motivated, educated and innovative
I doubt that most American parents fit the bill
AgreeOf course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
Homeschooled kids do better? Why do homeschooler continue to propagate this lie? For every kid that wins the national spelling bee or geography bee, there is another kid who was homeschooled because momma and baby daddy got tired of getting phone calls from the school telling them their little bastard ditched school again and they are going to lock the parents up for truancy. That kid never gets tested and never shows up in the stats because they never graduate.
AgreeOf course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
So if public schools are bad, It's OK with you that home schoolers don't even have to be at least that good?
Yes it is.
***Home schoolers overwhelmingly ARE in fact better educated than public schools which merely goes to show when people are left alone they will manage for themselves without state coercion which invariably fails
You keep forgetting the word "some" at the beginning of your statement.
Fine....if they are doing better, great for themIf public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
If mom home schools because she does not like to get up in the morning and class consists of watching TV all day then the kids should be placed in public schoolSo...they will be SO prepared for those things as an adult in the work force.Home schooled students do not have the distractions of bullying, violence, pressure to use drugs, as public schooled children. That's why they do so much better.
Homeschoolers Win High-school Mock Trial Championship
HSLDA | Homeschool Wins IT Competition; Spurs National DebateSuch things are usually not tolerated in most workplaces so yes they will be better prepared.So...they will be SO prepared for those things as an adult in the work force.Home schooled students do not have the distractions of bullying, violence, pressure to use drugs, as public schooled children. That's why they do so much better.
Homeschoolers Win High-school Mock Trial Championship
HSLDA | Homeschool Wins IT Competition; Spurs National Debate
And we know that all parents teach their kids to behave properly.
BAd example as she is the product of public schooling
Agree
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.
it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
Homeschooled kids do better? Why do homeschooler continue to propagate this lie? For every kid that wins the national spelling bee or geography bee, there is another kid who was homeschooled because momma and baby daddy got tired of getting phone calls from the school telling them their little bastard ditched school again and they are going to lock the parents up for truancy. That kid never gets tested and never shows up in the stats because they never graduate.
It is fact not a lie which you are using hyperbole rather than evidence to argue against
