Homeschooling: the ultimate results

Homeschool kids are geeky mamas boys

That was ignorant, very few homeschooled kids are anything like leftist males like you...geek
Some kids are just awkward in social situations or reluctant to leave their mother

They are better off home schooled
You are describing every liberal I know.

I understand why parents may be terrified of having children enter the real world. Imagine a child being able to make their own friends without parental supervision?
That's true for some parents, I think, rightwinger. We have had neighbors over the years who control their children right into adulthood, then wonder why their children keep them at arms length thereafter.
Today's robokids have their lives carefully planned for them from the moment they awake until they go to bed
Schooling is carefully planned on what they are exposed to. Their friends and contacts are carefully selected. TV is carefully approved as is their diet. No free unsupervised time

Homeschooling develops perfect kids
 
As the Pastor once said, "it's OK to put toxic people out of your life during the Christmas Season. They are so unhappy with themselves that the poison others' lives as a compensation. Ignore them until after the New Years."

So Merry Christmas, and you are on Ignore for a while, ladies.

The facts are clear. Home schooling is substandard, generally, to public schools, and much more so when compared to parochial schools. Some parents do very well in home schooling, but they are the exception that proves the rule.

Run away lol

This is what happens when you come to a thread ill informed
 
Homeschool kids are geeky mamas boys

That was ignorant, very few homeschooled kids are anything like leftist males like you...geek
Some kids are just awkward in social situations or reluctant to leave their mother

They are better off home schooled
You are describing every liberal I know.

I understand why parents may be terrified of having children enter the real world. Imagine a child being able to make their own friends without parental supervision?

Dumb, you should run away also. You're bringing nothing but crap
 
Homeschool kids are geeky mamas boys

That was ignorant, very few homeschooled kids are anything like leftist males like you...geek
Some kids are just awkward in social situations or reluctant to leave their mother

They are better off home schooled
You are describing every liberal I know.

I understand why parents may be terrified of having children enter the real world. Imagine a child being able to make their own friends without parental supervision?

Dumb, you should run away also. You're bringing nothing but crap
What are you afraid of?

That your child may make friends with a negro?

Better homeschool
 
Some of the homeschoolers who are actually taught possibly do quite well. Since there is no federal requirement for any standardized tests or even monitoring to see if the children are being taught anything, and many states don't bother to do that, there is no way to know how many just fall through the cracks and receive little of no education.
Check with the college instructors, particular those at community colleges who deal with mommas' darlings.


No need to check with anyone. I have direct knowledge of children who weren't taught anything. Imagine an 8 year old child who doesn't know the difference between a nickle and a quarter because his parents didn't bother to teach him. With no monitoring whatsoever, the state had no idea what the situation was, and no reason to do anything about it.

I have a nephew who was home schooled, and today, he is the union shop steward in a Peterbilt Truck assembly plant, so it is not as if he didn't learn any skills at all.


Of course. Some home school parents are concerned and capable of giving their children a great education. The one on one teaching is much better than a large class. However, it's wrong to say all parents are educated enough to give their children a quality education, and pointing to the ones lucky enough to have parents do as the expected outcome of home schooling is just wrong. With required standards home schooling could be a great idea. Without them lots of children are missing the chance at a better, more productive life.

You don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.

Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
 
That was ignorant, very few homeschooled kids are anything like leftist males like you...geek
Some kids are just awkward in social situations or reluctant to leave their mother

They are better off home schooled
You are describing every liberal I know.

I understand why parents may be terrified of having children enter the real world. Imagine a child being able to make their own friends without parental supervision?
That's true for some parents, I think, rightwinger. We have had neighbors over the years who control their children right into adulthood, then wonder why their children keep them at arms length thereafter.
Today's robokids have their lives carefully planned for them from the moment they awake until they go to bed
Schooling is carefully planned on what they are exposed to. Their friends and contacts are carefully selected. TV is carefully approved as is their diet. No free unsupervised time

Homeschooling develops perfect kids

So why is it a bad thing for parents to do those things as opposed to the state?
 
Check with the college instructors, particular those at community colleges who deal with mommas' darlings.


No need to check with anyone. I have direct knowledge of children who weren't taught anything. Imagine an 8 year old child who doesn't know the difference between a nickle and a quarter because his parents didn't bother to teach him. With no monitoring whatsoever, the state had no idea what the situation was, and no reason to do anything about it.

I have a nephew who was home schooled, and today, he is the union shop steward in a Peterbilt Truck assembly plant, so it is not as if he didn't learn any skills at all.


Of course. Some home school parents are concerned and capable of giving their children a great education. The one on one teaching is much better than a large class. However, it's wrong to say all parents are educated enough to give their children a quality education, and pointing to the ones lucky enough to have parents do as the expected outcome of home schooling is just wrong. With required standards home schooling could be a great idea. Without them lots of children are missing the chance at a better, more productive life.

You don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.

Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Agree
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school
 
Yep, teaching bigotry and hatred of tens of millions of your follow Americans is such a wonderful things.

There's a reason 90% of kids go to public school! Parents don't have the fucking time when they have to work to make a rich man richer to just have a roof over their goddamn head.

Conservatives teach their kids in homeschool that Progressives evolved from monkeys and humans were created in the image of God.

The truth hurts, doesn't it.
 
No need to check with anyone. I have direct knowledge of children who weren't taught anything. Imagine an 8 year old child who doesn't know the difference between a nickle and a quarter because his parents didn't bother to teach him. With no monitoring whatsoever, the state had no idea what the situation was, and no reason to do anything about it.

I have a nephew who was home schooled, and today, he is the union shop steward in a Peterbilt Truck assembly plant, so it is not as if he didn't learn any skills at all.


Of course. Some home school parents are concerned and capable of giving their children a great education. The one on one teaching is much better than a large class. However, it's wrong to say all parents are educated enough to give their children a quality education, and pointing to the ones lucky enough to have parents do as the expected outcome of home schooling is just wrong. With required standards home schooling could be a great idea. Without them lots of children are missing the chance at a better, more productive life.

You don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.

Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Agree
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school

Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.

it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard
 
The state is not in the role of the parents.

If all parents were involved in public schools, education would be in good shape.

When parents ignore schools, the state will step in.
 
Homeschooling is a great way to raise little Snowflakes

Every day is a safe space
 
I have a nephew who was home schooled, and today, he is the union shop steward in a Peterbilt Truck assembly plant, so it is not as if he didn't learn any skills at all.


Of course. Some home school parents are concerned and capable of giving their children a great education. The one on one teaching is much better than a large class. However, it's wrong to say all parents are educated enough to give their children a quality education, and pointing to the ones lucky enough to have parents do as the expected outcome of home schooling is just wrong. With required standards home schooling could be a great idea. Without them lots of children are missing the chance at a better, more productive life.

You don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.

Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Agree
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school

Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.

it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard

If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards
 
The state is not in the role of the parents.

If all parents were involved in public schools, education would be in good shape.

When parents ignore schools, the state will step in.
Except that in this case you have it quite backwards.

The state has striven to TAKE control of kids from parents and not due to any lack of involvement by parents. When parents are discouraged from taking part of or control of their kids education why should they be involved?

From the creation of kindergarten ( borrowed from germany ) to school busing to end natural segregation to the creation of the federal department of education the state has made it very clear they do not want parents involved or to have any control over their kids.

They have even made it a crime in most states to NOT educate one's kids. This seems logical on it;s surface, after all any decent parent wants a batter life for their kids and education is an important part of that.

However when far too many schools in the inner cities are cesspools of gangs and drugs and violence some parents may reasonably conclude that it is better to spend what time is possible with their kid in a library trying to teach them something rather than sending them to a physically dangerous state run holding area where no education is imparted anyways.

We see massive evidence that parents DO care about their kids education and want the best for their kids. The problem is the state is NOT interested in what they want and assumes the parents are not wise enough to decide what is best and so the parents are ignored.

When charter schools were very popular parents would camp out all night on the curb in long lines to try and get their kids into one and often those parents were lower income minorities who saw it is a good opportunity for their kids.

The state refuses to cede control of schools and kids however so the narrative that parents are not involved is a fallacy. The state does not want parents involved and will not allow it.
 
Of course. Some home school parents are concerned and capable of giving their children a great education. The one on one teaching is much better than a large class. However, it's wrong to say all parents are educated enough to give their children a quality education, and pointing to the ones lucky enough to have parents do as the expected outcome of home schooling is just wrong. With required standards home schooling could be a great idea. Without them lots of children are missing the chance at a better, more productive life.

You don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.

Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Agree
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school

Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.

it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard

If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards

As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
 
The results don’t lie - homeschooled students are better educacted and exponentially more successful than their public-schooled counterparts.
  • A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.
  • Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.
  • The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost 2x’s as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost 3x’s times as involved in politics.
  • Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.
As you can see - it goes so much further than just education. They are better citizens and better people, more actively involved in their communities and with less behavioral problems.

Excerpt From The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide
Wayne Allyn Root. This material may be protected by copyright.

You got a link for your claims? A advertisement for a book isn't very informative.
It’s not an “advertisement”, my fragile little snowflake. It’s called a “citation”. You’ll learn about them once you get into junior high.

A citation of an ad for a book
LMAO!!! I just realized that you have no idea how iOS functions. Too funny. Yes - the link takes you to the actual book in the iTunes Store. That’s still not an “ad”. It’s the actual citation when copying content from iBooks in iOS.

So you exprct me to buy a book to read your link? You know that's nuts, right?
 
The state is not in the role of the parents.

If all parents were involved in public schools, education would be in good shape.

When parents ignore schools, the state will step in.
Except that in this case you have it quite backwards.

The state has striven to TAKE control of kids from parents and not due to any lack of involvement by parents. When parents are discouraged from taking part of or control of their kids education why should they be involved?

From the creation of kindergarten ( borrowed from germany ) to school busing to end natural segregation to the creation of the federal department of education the state has made it very clear they do not want parents involved or to have any control over their kids.

They have even made it a crime in most states to NOT educate one's kids. This seems logical on it;s surface, after all any decent parent wants a batter life for their kids and education is an important part of that.

However when far too many schools in the inner cities are cesspools of gangs and drugs and violence some parents may reasonably conclude that it is better to spend what time is possible with their kid in a library trying to teach them something rather than sending them to a physically dangerous state run holding area where no education is imparted anyways.

We see massive evidence that parents DO care about their kids education and want the best for their kids. The problem is the state is NOT interested in what they want and assumes the parents are not wise enough to decide what is best and so the parents are ignored.

When charter schools were very popular parents would camp out all night on the curb in long lines to try and get their kids into one and often those parents were lower income minorities who saw it is a good opportunity for their kids.

Yes!!!
The state refuses to cede control of schools and kids however so the narrative that parents are not involved is a fallacy. The state does not want parents involved and will not allow it.

Yes!!!!!
 
Of course. Some home school parents are concerned and capable of giving their children a great education. The one on one teaching is much better than a large class. However, it's wrong to say all parents are educated enough to give their children a quality education, and pointing to the ones lucky enough to have parents do as the expected outcome of home schooling is just wrong. With required standards home schooling could be a great idea. Without them lots of children are missing the chance at a better, more productive life.
The numbers don’t lie, my friend. The results are far superior. You also fail to grasp that “homeschooling” doesn’t always mean “parent taught”. Wayne Allen Root hired professionals to come into their home and teach his daughter (granted he’s very wealthy and can do that while many people cannot). Plus there isn’t online, instructor lead schooling now. Throw in the internet, and there is an abundance of resources making it near impossible to not get a quality education at home. YouTube is FILLED with endless tutorials on materials for students struggling with a concept.

Yes, and there are lots of resources explaining how to become drug free, but that doesn't mean we don't have a lot of druggies. Without requirements that those resources are used, they might as well not exist for many.
 
The state is not in the role of the parents.

If all parents were involved in public schools, education would be in good shape.

When parents ignore schools, the state will step in.
Except that in this case you have it quite backwards.

The state has striven to TAKE control of kids from parents and not due to any lack of involvement by parents. When parents are discouraged from taking part of or control of their kids education why should they be involved?

From the creation of kindergarten ( borrowed from germany ) to school busing to end natural segregation to the creation of the federal department of education the state has made it very clear they do not want parents involved or to have any control over their kids.

They have even made it a crime in most states to NOT educate one's kids. This seems logical on it;s surface, after all any decent parent wants a batter life for their kids and education is an important part of that.

However when far too many schools in the inner cities are cesspools of gangs and drugs and violence some parents may reasonably conclude that it is better to spend what time is possible with their kid in a library trying to teach them something rather than sending them to a physically dangerous state run holding area where no education is imparted anyways.

We see massive evidence that parents DO care about their kids education and want the best for their kids. The problem is the state is NOT interested in what they want and assumes the parents are not wise enough to decide what is best and so the parents are ignored.

When charter schools were very popular parents would camp out all night on the curb in long lines to try and get their kids into one and often those parents were lower income minorities who saw it is a good opportunity for their kids.

The state refuses to cede control of schools and kids however so the narrative that parents are not involved is a fallacy. The state does not want parents involved and will not allow it.
Kids go to public schools because the state can assemble qualified instructors in various subjects
It also frees up parents to work
 
You don't have to have a great education yourself to give your child one. There are resources that make that possible.

Of course there are. That's where the ones with the high SATs come from. Many don't take advantage of those resources, and nothing in federal law says they have to. If there were requirements for parents to use those resources, or to determine if the child is being taught anything, then home schooling might be a viable option.
Agree
Make home schoolers meet the same standards a public school must meet. If you don't, your kid gets placed in public school

Public school standards suck and home schooled kids generally do better.

it is public schools which should be elevated to a higher standard

If public school is so bad, homeschool should have no problem meeting basic standards

As opposed to seeing the results which clearly shows home schooled kids do better. When the results speak for themselves AND THEY DO the problem is with the standards which others wish to impose.
Fine....if they are doing better, great for them
If mom home schools because she does not like to get up in the morning and class consists of watching TV all day then the kids should be placed in public school
 
The results don’t lie - homeschooled students are better educacted and exponentially more successful than their public-schooled counterparts.
  • A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.
  • Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.
  • The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost 2x’s as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost 3x’s times as involved in politics.
  • Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.
As you can see - it goes so much further than just education. They are better citizens and better people, more actively involved in their communities and with less behavioral problems.

Excerpt From The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide
Wayne Allyn Root. This material may be protected by copyright.
That's fine....Homeschooling was and is always there for the parents who want to. Public school was created in the industrial age for those who could not or would not home school, put their kids in private (usually religious) schools, or pay for tutors. Public school has always been the default position.
 

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