Hiroshima....

[Fenton Lum]

Terrorism can work. It sure did there.

Not really....they didn't quit until we nuked Nagasaki and probably still wouldn't have quit if they'd known we only had two A-bombs.

They were going to surrender even before we dropped the bombs, we were just showing off for the Russians. But these two acts of terrorism sealed the deal.

Ridiculous.

It's history.

It's America-hating fantasy. They were ready to inflict tens of thousands of GI deaths on us to defend mainland Japan...they told their people to attack us with knives and forks if necessary.

Knives and forks required nuclear bombing of civilians, we are truly an exceptional people.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Making us just that much worse for building such things in the first place. American devils.

Mess with the bull, get the horns, hairlip.

And then we wail like banshees when the chickens come home to roost.

 

[Tom Horn]

Terrorism can work. It sure did there.

Not really....they didn't quit until we nuked Nagasaki and probably still wouldn't have quit if they'd known we only had two A-bombs.

Actually after the emperor decided to announce Japan's surrender after the Nagasaki bomb a group of military officers tried to overthrow him to prevent the surrender from being broadcast preferring to fight to the end rather than suffer in their mind the dishonor of surrender.

That's correct...their officer corps had no intention of surrendering while they still had one working rifle.

 

[Tom Horn]

Making us just that much worse for building such things in the first place. American devils.

Mess with the bull, get the horns, hairlip.

And then we wail like banshees when the chickens come home to roost.

So get the fuck out of our country...you no longer have any right to be here.

 

[Frank'sRules]

Terrorism can work. It sure did there.

Not really....they didn't quit until we nuked Nagasaki and probably still wouldn't have quit if they'd known we only had two A-bombs.

Actually after the emperor decided to announce Japan's surrender after the Nagasaki bomb a group of military officers tried to overthrow him to prevent the surrender from being broadcast preferring to fight to the end rather than suffer in their mind the dishonor of surrender.

So, who was in charge them, he or they?

And they were soon to surrender anyway. We just wanted to show off our new toys and we couldn't drop them on Tokyo, we might have killed people who mattered, so when we went more off the grid.

 

[Frank'sRules]

Terrorism can work. It sure did there.

Not really....they didn't quit until we nuked Nagasaki and probably still wouldn't have quit if they'd known we only had two A-bombs.

Actually after the emperor decided to announce Japan's surrender after the Nagasaki bomb a group of military officers tried to overthrow him to prevent the surrender from being broadcast preferring to fight to the end rather than suffer in their mind the dishonor of surrender.

That's correct...their officer corps had no intention of surrendering while they still had one working rifle.

So what? They weren't in charge of surrendering.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Terrorism can work. It sure did there.

Not really....they didn't quit until we nuked Nagasaki and probably still wouldn't have quit if they'd known we only had two A-bombs.

Actually after the emperor decided to announce Japan's surrender after the Nagasaki bomb a group of military officers tried to overthrow him to prevent the surrender from being broadcast preferring to fight to the end rather than suffer in their mind the dishonor of surrender.

That's correct...their officer corps had no intention of surrendering while they still had one working rifle.

The Japanese people wouldn't have surrendered if their Emperor hadn't told them to

 

[martybegan]

So what? They weren't in charge of surrendering.[/QUOTE]

and that one line shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Tom Horn]

So, who was in charge them, he or they?

And they were soon to surrender anyway. We just wanted to show off our new toys and we couldn't drop them on Tokyo, we might have killed people who mattered, so when we went more off the grid.

I pity your ignorance...we hit Hiroshima because of the war materials factories there...and we firebombed Tokyo repeatedly...you're seriously misguided....you should sue every professor you ever had.

 

[Tom Horn]

The Japanese people wouldn't have surrendered if their Emperor hadn't told them to

And then they had to be convinced it was his voice they heard on the radio.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Terrorism can work. It sure did there.

Not really....they didn't quit until we nuked Nagasaki and probably still wouldn't have quit if they'd known we only had two A-bombs.

They were going to surrender even before we dropped the bombs, we were just showing off for the Russians. But these two acts of terrorism sealed the deal.

Ridiculous.

It's history.

It's America-hating fantasy. They were ready to inflict tens of thousands of GI deaths on us to defend mainland Japan...they told their people to attack us with knives and forks if necessary.

Some day some of you eighth wits need to be able to defend your views with something meaningful. Labeling anyone "america-hating" means nothing at all other than you can’t even make your own argument. That's in essence what all your labeling is

 

[Frank'sRules]

So, who was in charge them, he or they?

And they were soon to surrender anyway. We just wanted to show off our new toys and we couldn't drop them on Tokyo, we might have killed people who mattered, so when we went more off the grid.

I pity your ignorance...we hit Hiroshima because of the war materials factories there...and we firebombed Tokyo repeatedly...you're seriously misguided....you should sue every professor you ever had.

We did firebomb Tokyo and there was nothing in either place we used nukes that mattered. That's why we used the bombs there, not Tokyo.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The Japanese people wouldn't have surrendered if their Emperor hadn't told them to

And then they had to be convinced it was his voice they heard on the radio.

Yep, people who have actually studied history know all this, people who listen to left loon sources look like Lum and Frank, fucking clueless

 

[BlindBoo]

Awesome.

Any pics of the Raping of Nanking?

How about the Bataan Death March?

I'm glad our boys didn't invade their mainland.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So, who was in charge them, he or they?

And they were soon to surrender anyway. We just wanted to show off our new toys and we couldn't drop them on Tokyo, we might have killed people who mattered, so when we went more off the grid.

I pity your ignorance...we hit Hiroshima because of the war materials factories there...and we firebombed Tokyo repeatedly...you're seriously misguided....you should sue every professor you ever had.

We did firebomb Tokyo and there was nothing in either place we used nukes that mattered. That's why we used the bombs there, not Tokyo.

Wrong, dumbass

Target Selection

ww2dbaseBetween 10 and 11 May 1945, Oppenheimer led a committee which came up with a list of cities most potentially suitable as targets of atomic attacks. The committee eventually arrived at the recommendation of four targets: Kyoto, Hiroshima, Yokohama, and Kokura.

ww2dbaseHiroshima was chosen as the first target due to its military and industrial values. As a military target, Hiroshima was a major army base that housed the headquarters of the Japanese 5th Division and the 2nd Army Headquarters. It was also an important port in southern Japan and a communications center. The mountains surrounding Hiroshima also contributed to Hiroshima being among one of the top choices among the short list of potential targets, for that the mountains might contain the destructive forces of an atomic blast in the target area, increasing the level of destruction.

Atomic Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

 

[Bob Blaylock]

This is the moment the city was about to be torn apart by the first nuclear weapon ever used. Notice the people standing in the foreground unaware that they were about to be incinerated:

If this picture shows people about to be incinerated by the nuclear blast, then how did the camera and the film survive? The camera isn't much farther from the blast than the people in this photograph, and if those people are close enough to be incinerated, then so is the camera and the film.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The Japanese were never going to willingly unconditionally surrender.

 

[Frank'sRules]

So, who was in charge them, he or they?

And they were soon to surrender anyway. We just wanted to show off our new toys and we couldn't drop them on Tokyo, we might have killed people who mattered, so when we went more off the grid.

I pity your ignorance...we hit Hiroshima because of the war materials factories there...and we firebombed Tokyo repeatedly...you're seriously misguided....you should sue every professor you ever had.

We did firebomb Tokyo and there was nothing in either place we used nukes that mattered. That's why we used the bombs there, not Tokyo.

Wrong, dumbass

Target Selection

ww2dbaseBetween 10 and 11 May 1945, Oppenheimer led a committee which came up with a list of cities most potentially suitable as targets of atomic attacks. The committee eventually arrived at the recommendation of four targets: Kyoto, Hiroshima, Yokohama, and Kokura.

ww2dbaseHiroshima was chosen as the first target due to its military and industrial values. As a military target, Hiroshima was a major army base that housed the headquarters of the Japanese 5th Division and the 2nd Army Headquarters. It was also an important port in southern Japan and a communications center. The mountains surrounding Hiroshima also contributed to Hiroshima being among one of the top choices among the short list of potential targets, for that the mountains might contain the destructive forces of an atomic blast in the target area, increasing the level of destruction.

Atomic Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

The funny thing about history is, the winners write it, and they always, always spin it to make themselves look better. There was no reason at all to use our new toys, we just couldn't help ourselves.

And just how arbitrary was the selection?

"US Secretary of War Henry Stimson voiced successfully against the selection of Kyoto as a target, arguing that the city held cultural importance to the world; he also had a personal attachment to the city as he and his wife traveled to Kyoto on their honeymoon many years prior."

 

[Fenton Lum]

So, who was in charge them, he or they?

And they were soon to surrender anyway. We just wanted to show off our new toys and we couldn't drop them on Tokyo, we might have killed people who mattered, so when we went more off the grid.

I pity your ignorance...we hit Hiroshima because of the war materials factories there...and we firebombed Tokyo repeatedly...you're seriously misguided....you should sue every professor you ever had.

It's this simple son, and you know it; anything america does is beyond questioning, but we're "free". Even if it's the very thing we are critical of others doing. Oh, and you hate big govt, but you cannot ever question it. Odd that. And you soil yourselves if anyone else does.

 

[Tom Horn]

Awesome.

Any pics of the Raping of Nanking?

How about the Bataan Death March?

I'm glad our boys didn't invade their mainland.

My uncle got as far as Saipan before he was grievously wounded....those islands were butcher shops. Okinawa was a bloodbath and taking the mainland would have taken tens of thousands more lives. Luckily Truman had seen enough and knew from his time in WW1 what we were looking at.