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If you add caucus tallies I'd say that Bar beat Hill but its understandable that a hill supporter wouldnt actually use facts in an argument...
Do you by chance still think that hill has a chance here?
But Jeepers? How is saying what you are trying to say, is using the facts?
Caucuses HAVE NEVER BEEN TALLIED in to the Popular Primary vote count...in our ENTIRE HISTORY, so why do you want to change this now to include caucuses...they never have been included in the popular vote counts?
And as I have stated, the Democratic Party HAS NEVER HAD A NOMINEE THAT HAD NOT WON THE PRIMARY VOTE COUNT, period jeepers.
And as said, this Popular has NEVER included Caucus votes....NEVER, and in order to measure once democratic nominee to another you must have apples vs. apples to compare....not apples vs oranges as you are trying to do?
Obama won the Caucus vote, that has gone to his column already.
The popular vote is a different category....and no Democrat has ever won the Nomination, that did not ALSO carry the popular vote other than Obama.
In states like Texas, everyone votes in the Primary, but in the afternoon or evening.... a handful of the same people that cast their votes, go to the caucus at night... from what i understand?
Care
And no woman has won the Democratic Nomination for president and then gone on to win the presidency, so obviously she can't win either.
I see your point, Care, dishonest cherry picking statistics IS fun!
huh???
Meaning that those stats are true, but meaningless.
I get it. votes only count if they help out hill...you can't add cacuses to the popular vote count because caucuses have already been accounted for in the statistics....
and Obama won the caucus count.
Hillary Clinton, won the Popular Vote count and Obama lost the popular vote, that's just a fact, and the statistics of such, WILL BE recorded in our history as such.
What about the hill camp releasing the pic of Obama in native african garb... Was that not a review of outfit and accessories......IT DID have alot to do with how I felt females were being stepped on and ridiculed...geez, i saw several main stream media cover her white flowered casual shirt and ferragamo shoes.........there were skits of her being the wicked witch of the west, calling her a bitch on latenight...mimicing her shooting a rifle, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc...
There is only ONE way to count the votes:
That is clearly not the case.
There is only ONE way to count the votes: by counting the number of times a candidate was selected on a ballot. This includes caucuses, Florida, Michigan, every single vote that was cast. When you do that, Hillary Clinton received more votes than Barack Obama. Period.
Even if you include the caucus votes, Clinton still received more votes than Obama.
"Clinton math" seems to be okay when the Obama camp wants to use it. It's ridiculous to claim Obama won the popular vote. But, I've come to expect ridiculous shit from Obamanites.
If, as many people believe, the elections in Michigan (and to a lesser extent) Florida, were fundamentally unfair and not a true gauge of popular support, and hence don't include them, Obama wins the popular vote. This would be one way of looking at the popular vote.
Can you provide the source for this information? Thanks!
Except now the delegates have been awarded, sort of, so I'd assume you must also count the popular vote in the two states.
What about the hill camp releasing the pic of Obama in native african garb...
Except now the delegates have been awarded, sort of, so I'd assume you must also count the popular vote in the two states.
Absolutely. If you want to count delegates, you have to count the votes.