Zone1 Here is what Blacks Say About Reparations

[IM2]

I’m thinking we moved to America around 1963, this means I get a free ride from extortion I’m thinking..
I’m 1965 during the Watts riots our house was looted and partially burned down, Pops lost a lot of money from that, he felt he deserved some reparations but got screwed over. Those were some tough years but no need to apologize.. just send money.

Yawn. Whites were getiing things in 1963. Pops shoud have asked the LAPD for reparations since LAPD caused the Watts riots. Below are some of the reparations that have been paid since that time. I think it's time for whites on the right to stop pretending that this is the only time anyone has asked for reparations and that reparations can only be given for things that happen now.

1970: Richard Nixon signed into law House Resolution 471 restoring Blue Lake and surrounding area to the Taos Pueblo (New Mexico). The land had been taken by presidential order in 1906. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 422); see also "Taos Pueblo celebrates 40th anniversary of Blue Lake's return" by Matthew van Buren, Santa Fe New Mexican, September 18, 2010.)

The payments from 1971-1988 are taken from the booklet Black Reparations Now! 40 Acres, $50 Dollars, and a Mule, + Interest by Dorothy Benton-Lewis; and borrowed from N’COBRA (National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America).

1971: Around $1 billion + 44 million acres of land: Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

1974: A $10 million out-of-court settlement was reached between the U.S. government and Tuskegee victims, black men who had been unwitting subjects of a study of untreated syphilis, and who did not receive available treatments. (“The Tuskegee Timeline”, CDC, updated March 2, 2020.)

1980: $81 million: Klamaths of Oregon. ("Spending Spree" by Dylan Darling, Herald and News (Klamath Falls, OR), June 21, 2005.)

1980: $105 million: Sioux of South Dakota for seizure of their land. (United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, 448 U.S. 371 (1980).)

1985: $12.3 million: Seminoles of Florida. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1985: $31 million: Chippewas of Wisconsin. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1986: $32 million per 1836 Treaty: Ottawas of Michigan. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

2016: The U.S. government reached a settlement of $492 million with 17 Native American tribes to resolve lawsuits alleging the federal government mismanaged tribal land, resources, and money. (“U.S. Government To Pay $492 Million To 17 American Indian Tribes” by Rebecca Hersher, NPR, September 27, 2016.)

2018: The Supreme Court, in a 4-4 deadlock, let stand a lower court's order to the state of Washington to make billions of dollars worth of repairs to roads, where the state had built culverts below road channels and structures in a way that prevented salmon from swimming through and reaching their spawning grounds, that had damaged the state’s salmon habitats and contributed to population loss. The case involved the Stevens Treaties, a series of agreements in 1854-55, in which tribes in Washington State gave up millions of acres of land in exchange for "the right to take fish." Implicit in the treaties, courts would later rule, was a guarantee that there would be enough fish for the tribes to harvest. Destroying the habitat reduces the population and thus violates these treaties. This decision directly affects the Swinomish Tribe. ("A Victory For A Tribe That’s Lost Its Salmon" by John Eligon, The New York Times, June 12, 2018.)

 

[IM2]

Comedians have minds and beliefs. Granted, often times they say things for an easy laugh, but, doesn't really invalidate what they have to say

What they say doesn't supercede what economists say. Whites take what some black comedians say and try using them as gospel. This thread is not about some jokes told on stage. Now if you really think that what Chappell did in that skit is what's going to happen then you are retarded. I posted a video from people who studied the issue not somebody making a joke.

 

[Bonzi]

What they say doesn't supercede what economists say. Whites take what some black comedians say and try using them as gospel. This tread is not about some jokes told on stage. Now if you really think that what Chappell did in that skit is what's goingto happen then you are retarded. I posted a video from people who studied the issue not somebody making a joke.

Hmmm no it was just pretty funny. The message that I get from Dave Chappel is to no take yourself too seriously. Blacks and other minorities have fought for and achieved great things. The fact that a black man can joke about it shows how far we have come. The only thing holding people back at this point in time is obsessing on the past and not looking toward the future

 

[Batcat]

Everybody not black here has had an opinion on reparations. Most of the opinions are based on rude assumptions. This video is one part of a discussion going on in the the black community about the issue of reparations. Please listen to the video befiore you comment.

How To Pay Reparations To African Americans Without Spiking Inflation: Darity, Mullen​

I wonder if a person’s ancestors fought for the union to free slaves and one or more died in the effort, if they deserve reparations too.

I definitely do not feel the descendants of a soldier who died in the Civil War fighting for the Union to free slaves should have to pay reparations.

 

[IM2]

Hmmm no it was just pretty funny. The message that I get from Dave Chappel is to no take yourself too seriously. Blacks and other minorities have fought for and achieved great things. The fact that a black man can joke about it shows how far we have come. The only thing holding people back at this point in time is obsessing on the past and not looking toward the future

I'm fine with the joke and when I watched it, I laughed. This thread is not about what Chappell said, it is about allowing these racists here to understand that their opinions of what blacks would do if we got reparations is wrong, that blacks have already decided parameters for reparations, and that blacks don't need suggestions from white racists on what we should do if we were to recieve reparations.

Look, you guys celebrate the past every fourth of July. The past is not the issue, the present is and it is time that whites who do so, stop repeating that tired ass line about obssessing or living in the past. Whites are where they are now because of that past. The past created the deficits blacks face now. White racism exists now, the attitudes that were supposed to have been part of the past exist right now and members in this forum are examples of it.

 

[yidnar]

The government does owe. And since all kinds of other groups have been given reparations why do you oppose this?

so white tax payers should be on the hook and pay reparations ?? what about blacks born 50 yrs after said reparations are paid ? should they get reparations too ?

 

[yidnar]

Because whites were given the equivaent of over 1 quintllion dollars in government assistance that was denied blacks in the last century, specifically between the years 1930-1960 so you can just shut up about personal responsibility and volunteering.

lol ! one quintillion ! lol !1 million trillion !

 

[yidnar]

No, and I'm not going to argue using a video from a comedian. So try watching this video from economists.

economists !

 

[yidnar]

I'm fine with the joke and when I watched it, I laughed. This thread is not about what Chappell said, it is about allowing these racists here to understand that their opinions of what blacks would do if we got reparations is wrong, that blacks have already decided parameters for reparations, and that blacks don't need suggestions from white racists on what we should do if we were to recieve reparations.

Look, you guys celebrate the past every fourth of July. The past is not the issue, the present is and it is time that whites who do so, stop repeating that tired ass line about obssessing or living in the past. Whites are where they are now because of that past. The past created the deficits blacks face now. White racism exists now, the attitudes that were supposed to have been part of the past exist right now and members in this forum are examples of it.

don't worry the racist you voted for will probably promise the 14 trillion to get your stupid ass to vote for him again ..

 

[Lisa558]

As if blacks speak in one voice. Different people say different things regarding reparations. Losers want them, winners don’t. Skin color is irrelevant.

About one-third of blacks don’t want them. They not only recognize that they’re unfair, but that forcing whites to hand over money to blacks will breed resentment and anger, and make race relations worse.

 

[Lisa558]

don't worry the racist you voted for will probably promise the 14 trillion to get your stupid ass to vote for him again ..

He might. He just promised more student debt forgiveness to buy the youth vote he’s losing. So what’s to stop him from making an unconstitutional promise to give blacks OPM?

In fact, I’m surprised he hasn’t made the meaningless promise yet. He must be waiting until early voting starts, and then will announce that blacks in the swing states get a free house if he wins.

 

[IM2]

so white tax payers should be on the hook and pay reparations ?? what about blacks born 50 yrs after said reparations are paid ? should they get reparations too ?

Why do people like you ask these dumb ass questions? This is not the first time reparations have been asked for, these are just a few.

1970: Richard Nixon signed into law House Resolution 471 restoring Blue Lake and surrounding area to the Taos Pueblo (New Mexico). The land had been taken by presidential order in 1906. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 422); see also "Taos Pueblo celebrates 40th anniversary of Blue Lake's return" by Matthew van Buren, Santa Fe New Mexican, September 18, 2010.)

The payments from 1971-1988 are taken from the booklet Black Reparations Now! 40 Acres, $50 Dollars, and a Mule, + Interest by Dorothy Benton-Lewis; and borrowed from N’COBRA (National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America).

1971: Around $1 billion + 44 million acres of land: Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

1974: A $10 million out-of-court settlement was reached between the U.S. government and Tuskegee victims, black men who had been unwitting subjects of a study of untreated syphilis, and who did not receive available treatments. (“The Tuskegee Timeline”, CDC, updated March 2, 2020.)

1980: $81 million: Klamaths of Oregon. ("Spending Spree" by Dylan Darling, Herald and News (Klamath Falls, OR), June 21, 2005.)

1980: $105 million: Sioux of South Dakota for seizure of their land. (United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, 448 U.S. 371 (1980).)

1985: $12.3 million: Seminoles of Florida. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1985: $31 million: Chippewas of Wisconsin. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1986: $32 million per 1836 Treaty: Ottawas of Michigan. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

2016: The U.S. government reached a settlement of $492 million with 17 Native American tribes to resolve lawsuits alleging the federal government mismanaged tribal land, resources, and money. (“U.S. Government To Pay $492 Million To 17 American Indian Tribes” by Rebecca Hersher, NPR, September 27, 2016.)

2018: The Supreme Court, in a 4-4 deadlock, let stand a lower court's order to the state of Washington to make billions of dollars worth of repairs to roads, where the state had built culverts below road channels and structures in a way that prevented salmon from swimming through and reaching their spawning grounds, that had damaged the state’s salmon habitats and contributed to population loss. The case involved the Stevens Treaties, a series of agreements in 1854-55, in which tribes in Washington State gave up millions of acres of land in exchange for "the right to take fish." Implicit in the treaties, courts would later rule, was a guarantee that there would be enough fish for the tribes to harvest. Destroying the habitat reduces the population and thus violates these treaties. This decision directly affects the Swinomish Tribe. ("A Victory For A Tribe That’s Lost Its Salmon" by John Eligon, The New York Times, June 12, 2018.)

 

[IM2]

lol ! one quintillion ! lol !1 million trillion !

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That's the equivalent amount of money that the government invested in white wealth during the 20th century, specifically between 1930-68, that blacks were denied from. according to this study

"Understanding the U.S. government’s discriminatory housing practices, Part II discusses and quantifies the effects of the government’s housing discrimination on black-American households and communities. Finding that approximately 120 billion 1950s dollars12—or more than 1.239 quintillion 2019 dollars—were invested to subsidize and create white-American wealth through homeownership..."

Black Reparations for Twentieth Century Federal Housing Discrimination: The Construction of White Wealth and the Effects of Denied Black Homeownership

This year marks the 400th anniversary of the first documented arrival of Africans to the United States, which resulted in the enslavement of approximately 4 mil

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Back paid taxes during this tme. And I'm not even going to begin talking about how our labor created the iniitial wealth that has compounded into what we have today.

 

[IM2]

Thats how I feel every tine see some white person makng a tread trying to tell blacks what we should do or about blacks committing crimes. Things you say nothing about whan it is repeated over and over.

This is not the first time reparations have been asked for, these are just a few.

1970: Richard Nixon signed into law House Resolution 471 restoring Blue Lake and surrounding area to the Taos Pueblo (New Mexico). The land had been taken by presidential order in 1906. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 422); see also "Taos Pueblo celebrates 40th anniversary of Blue Lake's return" by Matthew van Buren, Santa Fe New Mexican, September 18, 2010.)

The payments from 1971-1988 are taken from the booklet Black Reparations Now! 40 Acres, $50 Dollars, and a Mule, + Interest by Dorothy Benton-Lewis; and borrowed from N’COBRA (National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America).

1971: Around $1 billion + 44 million acres of land: Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

1974: A $10 million out-of-court settlement was reached between the U.S. government and Tuskegee victims, black men who had been unwitting subjects of a study of untreated syphilis, and who did not receive available treatments. (“The Tuskegee Timeline”, CDC, updated March 2, 2020.)

1980: $81 million: Klamaths of Oregon. ("Spending Spree" by Dylan Darling, Herald and News (Klamath Falls, OR), June 21, 2005.)

1980: $105 million: Sioux of South Dakota for seizure of their land. (United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, 448 U.S. 371 (1980).)

1985: $12.3 million: Seminoles of Florida. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1985: $31 million: Chippewas of Wisconsin. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1986: $32 million per 1836 Treaty: Ottawas of Michigan. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

2016: The U.S. government reached a settlement of $492 million with 17 Native American tribes to resolve lawsuits alleging the federal government mismanaged tribal land, resources, and money. (“U.S. Government To Pay $492 Million To 17 American Indian Tribes” by Rebecca Hersher, NPR, September 27, 2016.)

2018: The Supreme Court, in a 4-4 deadlock, let stand a lower court's order to the state of Washington to make billions of dollars worth of repairs to roads, where the state had built culverts below road channels and structures in a way that prevented salmon from swimming through and reaching their spawning grounds, that had damaged the state’s salmon habitats and contributed to population loss. The case involved the Stevens Treaties, a series of agreements in 1854-55, in which tribes in Washington State gave up millions of acres of land in exchange for "the right to take fish." Implicit in the treaties, courts would later rule, was a guarantee that there would be enough fish for the tribes to harvest. Destroying the habitat reduces the population and thus violates these treaties. This decision directly affects the Swinomish Tribe. ("A Victory For A Tribe That’s Lost Its Salmon" by John Eligon, The New York Times, June 12, 2018.)

 

[Kruska]

The Democrats aren't the ones who owe reparations, the government does. You can drop tjhat one now. Because you've been shown enough times how Republicans were no better and that reparations are not just for slavery..

You are constantly living in the past. What about them Injuins, or those Chinese slave laborers that helped to build the US railways?
Or them Hawaiians/Samoans having been cheated/robbed of their lands and their sovereignty,

How about Syrian civilians having been killed/murdered due to a US government presently ordering attacks, and having stationed US military illegally in a sovereign country? etc. etc.

To demand reparations from a present government for occurrences in the past (even more then 50 years ago in regards to US Negros) is simply idiotic and leads to nowhere, aside from worsening an already political/social volatile situation.

If Negros or others today, face a problem such as racism and an inadequate education - the answer lies in EDUCATION and not reparations.

 

[el midgetron]

Everybody not black here has had an opinion on reparations.

There is no need to racialize it. Theoretically, doesn’t everyone have an opinion on reparations? You have an opinion. I have an opinion. It might be someone’s opinion that they just don’t care about the issue of reparations. Everyone has an opinion.

You are just dog-whistling “white people” to your black neo-Nazi homies. They made movies about you brothers.

 

[Markle]

Thats how I feel every tine see some white person makng a tread trying to tell blacks what we should do or about blacks committing crimes. Things you say nothing about whan it is repeated over and over.

This is not the first time reparations have been asked for, these are just a few.

1970: Richard Nixon signed into law House Resolution 471 restoring Blue Lake and surrounding area to the Taos Pueblo (New Mexico). The land had been taken by presidential order in 1906. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 422); see also "Taos Pueblo celebrates 40th anniversary of Blue Lake's return" by Matthew van Buren, Santa Fe New Mexican, September 18, 2010.)

The payments from 1971-1988 are taken from the booklet Black Reparations Now! 40 Acres, $50 Dollars, and a Mule, + Interest by Dorothy Benton-Lewis; and borrowed from N’COBRA (National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America).

1971: Around $1 billion + 44 million acres of land: Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

1974: A $10 million out-of-court settlement was reached between the U.S. government and Tuskegee victims, black men who had been unwitting subjects of a study of untreated syphilis, and who did not receive available treatments. (“The Tuskegee Timeline”, CDC, updated March 2, 2020.)

1980: $81 million: Klamaths of Oregon. ("Spending Spree" by Dylan Darling, Herald and News (Klamath Falls, OR), June 21, 2005.)

1980: $105 million: Sioux of South Dakota for seizure of their land. (United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, 448 U.S. 371 (1980).)

1985: $12.3 million: Seminoles of Florida. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1985: $31 million: Chippewas of Wisconsin. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1986: $32 million per 1836 Treaty: Ottawas of Michigan. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

2016: The U.S. government reached a settlement of $492 million with 17 Native American tribes to resolve lawsuits alleging the federal government mismanaged tribal land, resources, and money. (“U.S. Government To Pay $492 Million To 17 American Indian Tribes” by Rebecca Hersher, NPR, September 27, 2016.)

2018: The Supreme Court, in a 4-4 deadlock, let stand a lower court's order to the state of Washington to make billions of dollars worth of repairs to roads, where the state had built culverts below road channels and structures in a way that prevented salmon from swimming through and reaching their spawning grounds, that had damaged the state’s salmon habitats and contributed to population loss. The case involved the Stevens Treaties, a series of agreements in 1854-55, in which tribes in Washington State gave up millions of acres of land in exchange for "the right to take fish." Implicit in the treaties, courts would later rule, was a guarantee that there would be enough fish for the tribes to harvest. Destroying the habitat reduces the population and thus violates these treaties. This decision directly affects the Swinomish Tribe. ("A Victory For A Tribe That’s Lost Its Salmon" by John Eligon, The New York Times, June 12, 2018.)

 

[yidnar]

Why do people like you ask these dumb ass questions? This is not the first time reparations have been asked for, these are just a few.

1970: Richard Nixon signed into law House Resolution 471 restoring Blue Lake and surrounding area to the Taos Pueblo (New Mexico). The land had been taken by presidential order in 1906. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 422); see also "Taos Pueblo celebrates 40th anniversary of Blue Lake's return" by Matthew van Buren, Santa Fe New Mexican, September 18, 2010.)

The payments from 1971-1988 are taken from the booklet Black Reparations Now! 40 Acres, $50 Dollars, and a Mule, + Interest by Dorothy Benton-Lewis; and borrowed from N’COBRA (National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America).

1971: Around $1 billion + 44 million acres of land: Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

1974: A $10 million out-of-court settlement was reached between the U.S. government and Tuskegee victims, black men who had been unwitting subjects of a study of untreated syphilis, and who did not receive available treatments. (“The Tuskegee Timeline”, CDC, updated March 2, 2020.)

1980: $81 million: Klamaths of Oregon. ("Spending Spree" by Dylan Darling, Herald and News (Klamath Falls, OR), June 21, 2005.)

1980: $105 million: Sioux of South Dakota for seizure of their land. (United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, 448 U.S. 371 (1980).)

1985: $12.3 million: Seminoles of Florida. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1985: $31 million: Chippewas of Wisconsin. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1986: $32 million per 1836 Treaty: Ottawas of Michigan. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

2016: The U.S. government reached a settlement of $492 million with 17 Native American tribes to resolve lawsuits alleging the federal government mismanaged tribal land, resources, and money. (“U.S. Government To Pay $492 Million To 17 American Indian Tribes” by Rebecca Hersher, NPR, September 27, 2016.)

2018: The Supreme Court, in a 4-4 deadlock, let stand a lower court's order to the state of Washington to make billions of dollars worth of repairs to roads, where the state had built culverts below road channels and structures in a way that prevented salmon from swimming through and reaching their spawning grounds, that had damaged the state’s salmon habitats and contributed to population loss. The case involved the Stevens Treaties, a series of agreements in 1854-55, in which tribes in Washington State gave up millions of acres of land in exchange for "the right to take fish." Implicit in the treaties, courts would later rule, was a guarantee that there would be enough fish for the tribes to harvest. Destroying the habitat reduces the population and thus violates these treaties. This decision directly affects the Swinomish Tribe. ("A Victory For A Tribe That’s Lost Its Salmon" by John Eligon, The New York Times, June 12, 2018.)

you didn't answer the question .. once again if reparations are paid should blacks born after said reparations are paid get reparations too ?

 

[IM2]

you didn't answer the question .. once again if reparations are paid should blacks born after said reparations are paid get reparations too ?

That's a dumb ass question that will not be answered. OK? Why do you racists ask such stupid questions?

Whites have got direct goverrnment assistance on 8 different occasions, so don't ask stupid questions.

 

[yidnar]

That's a dumb ass question that will not be answered. OK? Why do you racists ask such stupid questions?

Whites have got direct goverrnment assistance on 8 different occasions, so don't ask stupid questions.

why is it a dumb question .. are blacks born after reparations are paid deserving of reparations too ?