Hello impeachment, goodbye democracy.

[Rustic]

Trump, Bush 43, Iraq, and Impeachment | National Review

Strange as it may be to hear, the current president of the United States — a hero of the Republican party and the conservative movement — has the same view of the Bush administration and the Iraq War as the hard Left. As Code Pink, for example.

Trump was very hot for the impeachment of Bush. Indeed, it was the one thing he faulted Pelosi for (not impeaching).

The Bush’s and Clintons are best buddies.... They are above the law

Clintons always looking for campaign money... I think that’s fucking hilarious

but but but but

C-L-I-N-T-O-N !!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Clintons are the most repugnant people on the planet… Fact

 

[g5000]

Trump, Bush 43, Iraq, and Impeachment | National Review

Strange as it may be to hear, the current president of the United States — a hero of the Republican party and the conservative movement — has the same view of the Bush administration and the Iraq War as the hard Left. As Code Pink, for example.

Trump was very hot for the impeachment of Bush. Indeed, it was the one thing he faulted Pelosi for (not impeaching).

The Bush’s and Clintons are best buddies.... They are above the law

Clintons always looking for campaign money... I think that’s fucking hilarious

but but but but

C-L-I-N-T-O-N !!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Clintons are the most repugnant people on the planet… Fact

That must be why Comrade Donald was one of Bill's favorite golfing buddies.

 

[jillian]

There is a chilling possibility threatening our democracy obvious to those who watched the impeachment inquiries that have bottlenecked Congress preventing it from doing anything useful to solve the nation’s most pressing problems. That possibility is that the democratic party has produced such a stunted sense of reality among its followers that democracy itself could be in peril.

No one doubts that the transition from actual democracy to authoritarian oligarchy was well underway before Trump interrupted it. But the reaction to that upset by the industrial grade slobbering pomposity of the deep state has propagated such a delusional, true-believing, jack booted and hate-fueled national goon platoon of democratic voters that democracy itself is in the balance.

Only the most gullible of citizens is unaware that the president’s impeachment by the state was job one even before he took office in 2017. The danger is that the indoctrinated hatred of about half the US population is being used by the democratic party to attack democracy in order to preserve an elitist, autocratic, self-serving nucleus of embedded central planners armed with the aid and comfort of propaganda platforms disguised as objective national media.

In a democracy the people elect a president but in a controlled totalitarian state that has been masquerading as a democracy, the people must follow the state. If the people become so bold as to oppose the state as they did when they elected Trump, then their choice must be set aside or overthrown. Even if the people sense that the government is not acting in their best interest it is not their place to defy the state that knows best-of course it knows best for the state not the people.

The impeachment inquiries, launched to suggest that the president’s concerns about the activities of a crack-smoking, widow-servicing, brothel-hopping son of a then vice president is a propaganda show trial. With the former vice president on tape extorting influence money from Ukrainian officials by threatening to withhold aid, any reasonable observer can easily figure out who the real culprits are.

But propagandized hate wields a powerful influence, powerful enough to convince its targets to abandon democracy. Democracy means that the people decide who leads them at the ballot box, not by partisan government inventions of crimes against the state.

The president is a populist threatening the state and the state has no place for actual democracy. To the state it’s just a word.

you don’t care anything about democracy.
And impeachment didn’t bother you when it was about a BJ

 

[jillian]

Trump, Bush 43, Iraq, and Impeachment | National Review

Strange as it may be to hear, the current president of the United States — a hero of the Republican party and the conservative movement — has the same view of the Bush administration and the Iraq War as the hard Left. As Code Pink, for example.

Trump was very hot for the impeachment of Bush. Indeed, it was the one thing he faulted Pelosi for (not impeaching).

The Bush’s and Clintons are best buddies.... They are above the law

Clintons always looking for campaign money... I think that’s fucking hilarious

but but but but

C-L-I-N-T-O-N !!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Clintons are the most repugnant people on the planet… Fact

Lol

 

[g5000]

 

[g5000]

I don't just grab pussies!

 

[g5000]

I also grab bunnies with Bill!

 

[g5000]

I just can't get enough of Bill!

 

[g5000]

Epstein's got a 13 year old warmed up for us in the other room, Bill

 

[g5000]

Your dad's right. You ARE a hot piece of ass!

 

[Natural Citizen]

There is a chilling possibility threatening our democracy obvious to those who watched the impeachment inquiries that have bottlenecked Congress preventing it from doing anything useful to solve the nation’s most pressing problems. That possibility is that the democratic party has produced such a stunted sense of reality among its followers that democracy itself could be in peril...

The danger is that the indoctrinated hatred of about half the US population is being used by the democratic party to attack democracy in order to preserve an elitist, autocratic, self-serving nucleus of embedded central planners armed with the aid and comfort of propaganda platforms disguised as objective national media.

In a democracy the people elect a president but in a controlled totalitarian state that has been masquerading as a democracy, the people must follow the state. If the people become so bold as to oppose the state as they did when they elected Trump, then their choice must be set aside or overthrown. Even if the people sense that the government is not acting in their best interest it is not their place to defy the state that knows best-of course it knows best for the state not the people.

Democracy means that the people decide who leads them at the ballot box, not by partisan government inventions of crimes against the state.

The president is a populist threatening the state and the state has no place for actual democracy. To the state it’s just a word.

'A Democracy' IS a cotrolled authoritarian state. A Republic, on the other hand, is quite another story.

Too many people think democracy and 'a democracy' are the same thing. They're not.


Here's a snip from a great book on the topic. The American Ideal of 1776: The Twelve Basic American Principles.



An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic

It is important to keep in mind the difference between a Democracy and a Republic, as dissimilar forms of government. Understanding the difference is essential to comprehension of the fundamentals involved. It should be noted, in passing, that use of the word Democracy as meaning merely the popular type of government--that is, featuring genuinely free elections by the people periodically--is not helpful in discussing, as here, the difference between alternative and dissimilar forms of a popular government: a Democracy versus a Republic. This double meaning of Democracy--a popular-type government in general, as well as a specific form of popular government--needs to be made clear in any discussion, or writing, regarding this subject, for the sake of sound understanding.

These two forms of government: Democracy and Republic, are not only dissimilar but antithetical, reflecting the sharp contrast between (a) The Majority Unlimited, in a Democracy, lacking any legal safeguard of the rights of The Individual and The Minority, and (b) The Majority Limited, in a Republic under a written Constitution safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority; as we shall now see.


A Democracy

The chief characteristic and distinguishing feature of a Democracy is: Rule by Omnipotent Majority.

In a Democracy, The Individual, and any group of Individuals composing any Minority, have no protection against the unlimited power of The Majority. It is a case of Majority-over-Man.

This is true whether it be a Direct Democracy, or a Representative Democracy.

In both the Direct type and the Representative type of Democracy, The Majority’s power is absolute and unlimited; its decisions are unappealable under the legal system established to give effect to this form of government. This opens the door to unlimited Tyranny-by-Majority. This was what The Framers of the United States Constitution meant in 1787, in debates in the Federal (framing) Convention, when they condemned the "excesses of democracy" and abuses under any Democracy of the unalienable rights of The Individual by The Majority.


A Republic

A Republic, on the other hand, has a very different purpose and an entirely different form, or system, of government. Its purpose is to control The Majority strictly, as well as all others among the people, primarily to protect The Individual’s God-given, unalienable rights and therefore for the protection of the rights of The Minority, of all minorities, and the liberties of people in general. The definition of a Republic is: a constitutionally limited government of the representative type, created by a written Constitution--adopted by the people and changeable (from its original meaning) by them only by its amendment--with its powers divided between three separate Branches: Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Here the term "the people" means, of course, the electorate.

 

[g5000]

Trump: "Bill Clinton was a great president and Hillary would be a great President."

Trump: Hillary Clinton would make a "great" president - CBS News


Flashback: Trump Praises Bill Clinton in 1998 Interview, Calls Paula Jones a "Loser"

 

[BS Filter]

The Democrats don't want a trial. In a trial the Republicans will call witnesses and that's one thing Democrats don't want. I honestly believe that Democrats will only censor the President.

When a former military man shows up in a full uniform to impress the politicians and the press, it spoke very highly of the man's insecurity with what he was saying.

Make no mistake, I am not a fan of Donald Trump. I am reasonably good at legal investigation (which was my field of expertise for a few decades.) There was one thing that clinched this stuff for me:

When Sondland testified before Congress, his testimony was that he asked Trump "what the f**ck it was that he ( Trump ) wanted. At this point, Trump says he didn't want anything and the no quid pro quo comment is made. Critics say, at this juncture, Trump has been tipped off about the whistle-blower. Okay great. What about Sondland?

Sondland's testimony is that during the infamous telephone call, the alleged quid pro quo statement is unequivocally made. Sondland testifies that there is no doubt that this is a quid pro quo discussion being made via phone. So, why does Sondland get frustrated and later ask Trump "what the f**ck" he (Trump ) wants? If Sondland had knowledge that the phone call was unequivocally about a quid pro quo arrangement, why would Sondland ask Trump what he really wanted? The truth? Trump never had a quid pro quo arrangement. Otherwise, the discussion between Sondland and Trump would not have ever taken place - because Sondland would have already known what Trump wanted if the phone call was all that the Democrats have presented it to be.

All you have now are people who want to get rid of Trump because he was / is an asshole to work with. Some of Trump's accusers have a bias against the man; others want to work their way up, realizing that the Ds are gaining ground politically. For me, Sondland was THE star witness and his actions disprove the allegation made. If you already know what someone wants, you don't get your boxers in a bunch and ask them. You make it happen or you quit the damn job.

Trump is an asshole to work with because he doesn't do things the way they're done by the elitist ruling class. He does things his way and doesn't check with them first. That's why they're pissed off.

 

[Rustic]

Epstein's got a 13 year old warmed up for us in the other room, Bill

Lol
Progressives can’t stand losing... Elections have consequences I think Obama said that once

 

[Porter Rockwell]

There is a chilling possibility threatening our democracy obvious to those who watched the impeachment inquiries that have bottlenecked Congress preventing it from doing anything useful to solve the nation’s most pressing problems. That possibility is that the democratic party has produced such a stunted sense of reality among its followers that democracy itself could be in peril.

No one doubts that the transition from actual democracy to authoritarian oligarchy was well underway before Trump interrupted it. But the reaction to that upset by the industrial grade slobbering pomposity of the deep state has propagated such a delusional, true-believing, jack booted and hate-fueled national goon platoon of democratic voters that democracy itself is in the balance.

Only the most gullible of citizens is unaware that the president’s impeachment by the state was job one even before he took office in 2017. The danger is that the indoctrinated hatred of about half the US population is being used by the democratic party to attack democracy in order to preserve an elitist, autocratic, self-serving nucleus of embedded central planners armed with the aid and comfort of propaganda platforms disguised as objective national media.

In a democracy the people elect a president but in a controlled totalitarian state that has been masquerading as a democracy, the people must follow the state. If the people become so bold as to oppose the state as they did when they elected Trump, then their choice must be set aside or overthrown. Even if the people sense that the government is not acting in their best interest it is not their place to defy the state that knows best-of course it knows best for the state not the people.

The impeachment inquiries, launched to suggest that the president’s concerns about the activities of a crack-smoking, widow-servicing, brothel-hopping son of a then vice president is a propaganda show trial. With the former vice president on tape extorting influence money from Ukrainian officials by threatening to withhold aid, any reasonable observer can easily figure out who the real culprits are.

But propagandized hate wields a powerful influence, powerful enough to convince its targets to abandon democracy. Democracy means that the people decide who leads them at the ballot box, not by partisan government inventions of crimes against the state.

The president is a populist threatening the state and the state has no place for actual democracy. To the state it’s just a word.

Our de jure / lawful / constitutional form of government is a Republic. If the "Democracy" dies, then great. I want the Republic we were guaranteed in Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States.

A republic is a representational democracy. You have no point except the one on top of your head, super duper.

Cite the section of the Constitution where it says we are a representational democracy. The only thing a democracy represents is the majority.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

There is a chilling possibility threatening our democracy obvious to those who watched the impeachment inquiries that have bottlenecked Congress preventing it from doing anything useful to solve the nation’s most pressing problems. That possibility is that the democratic party has produced such a stunted sense of reality among its followers that democracy itself could be in peril.

No one doubts that the transition from actual democracy to authoritarian oligarchy was well underway before Trump interrupted it. But the reaction to that upset by the industrial grade slobbering pomposity of the deep state has propagated such a delusional, true-believing, jack booted and hate-fueled national goon platoon of democratic voters that democracy itself is in the balance.

Only the most gullible of citizens is unaware that the president’s impeachment by the state was job one even before he took office in 2017. The danger is that the indoctrinated hatred of about half the US population is being used by the democratic party to attack democracy in order to preserve an elitist, autocratic, self-serving nucleus of embedded central planners armed with the aid and comfort of propaganda platforms disguised as objective national media.

In a democracy the people elect a president but in a controlled totalitarian state that has been masquerading as a democracy, the people must follow the state. If the people become so bold as to oppose the state as they did when they elected Trump, then their choice must be set aside or overthrown. Even if the people sense that the government is not acting in their best interest it is not their place to defy the state that knows best-of course it knows best for the state not the people.

The impeachment inquiries, launched to suggest that the president’s concerns about the activities of a crack-smoking, widow-servicing, brothel-hopping son of a then vice president is a propaganda show trial. With the former vice president on tape extorting influence money from Ukrainian officials by threatening to withhold aid, any reasonable observer can easily figure out who the real culprits are.

But propagandized hate wields a powerful influence, powerful enough to convince its targets to abandon democracy. Democracy means that the people decide who leads them at the ballot box, not by partisan government inventions of crimes against the state.

The president is a populist threatening the state and the state has no place for actual democracy. To the state it’s just a word.

Wrong.

The impeachment process is the reaffirmation of democracy.

In essence, the impeachment process is the people telling the states that the states got it wrong regarding whom the states elected president.

The people’s representatives in the House, whose members were elected via the democratic process, are authorized by Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution to submit to the states (the Senate) evidence as to why a president is unfit to hold office, and should be removed from office pursuant to that evidence.

Impeachment is the ultimate expression of democracy, reflecting the will of the people.

Democracy sucks. The states don't have any power since we elect United States Senators by direct election, so quit blaming the states.

is that why the right fights wars trying to shove democracy down 3rd world countries throat ?

RINOs. Both sides screwing us.

we are STILL fighting in the mid east so the Iraqui people could have a purple thumb -

that's 100% RW WAR....

Don't know what that means but that last pic was pro-democracy and never able to say Republic.

 

[francoHFW]

There is a chilling possibility threatening our democracy obvious to those who watched the impeachment inquiries that have bottlenecked Congress preventing it from doing anything useful to solve the nation’s most pressing problems. That possibility is that the democratic party has produced such a stunted sense of reality among its followers that democracy itself could be in peril.

No one doubts that the transition from actual democracy to authoritarian oligarchy was well underway before Trump interrupted it. But the reaction to that upset by the industrial grade slobbering pomposity of the deep state has propagated such a delusional, true-believing, jack booted and hate-fueled national goon platoon of democratic voters that democracy itself is in the balance.

Only the most gullible of citizens is unaware that the president’s impeachment by the state was job one even before he took office in 2017. The danger is that the indoctrinated hatred of about half the US population is being used by the democratic party to attack democracy in order to preserve an elitist, autocratic, self-serving nucleus of embedded central planners armed with the aid and comfort of propaganda platforms disguised as objective national media.

In a democracy the people elect a president but in a controlled totalitarian state that has been masquerading as a democracy, the people must follow the state. If the people become so bold as to oppose the state as they did when they elected Trump, then their choice must be set aside or overthrown. Even if the people sense that the government is not acting in their best interest it is not their place to defy the state that knows best-of course it knows best for the state not the people.

The impeachment inquiries, launched to suggest that the president’s concerns about the activities of a crack-smoking, widow-servicing, brothel-hopping son of a then vice president is a propaganda show trial. With the former vice president on tape extorting influence money from Ukrainian officials by threatening to withhold aid, any reasonable observer can easily figure out who the real culprits are.

But propagandized hate wields a powerful influence, powerful enough to convince its targets to abandon democracy. Democracy means that the people decide who leads them at the ballot box, not by partisan government inventions of crimes against the state.

The president is a populist threatening the state and the state has no place for actual democracy. To the state it’s just a word.

Our de jure / lawful / constitutional form of government is a Republic. If the "Democracy" dies, then great. I want the Republic we were guaranteed in Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States.

A republic is a representational democracy. You have no point except the one on top of your head, super duper.

Cite the section of the Constitution where it says we are a representational democracy. The only thing a democracy represents is the majority.

That is the dictionary definition.

 

[francoHFW]

There is a chilling possibility threatening our democracy obvious to those who watched the impeachment inquiries that have bottlenecked Congress preventing it from doing anything useful to solve the nation’s most pressing problems. That possibility is that the democratic party has produced such a stunted sense of reality among its followers that democracy itself could be in peril.

No one doubts that the transition from actual democracy to authoritarian oligarchy was well underway before Trump interrupted it. But the reaction to that upset by the industrial grade slobbering pomposity of the deep state has propagated such a delusional, true-believing, jack booted and hate-fueled national goon platoon of democratic voters that democracy itself is in the balance.

Only the most gullible of citizens is unaware that the president’s impeachment by the state was job one even before he took office in 2017. The danger is that the indoctrinated hatred of about half the US population is being used by the democratic party to attack democracy in order to preserve an elitist, autocratic, self-serving nucleus of embedded central planners armed with the aid and comfort of propaganda platforms disguised as objective national media.

In a democracy the people elect a president but in a controlled totalitarian state that has been masquerading as a democracy, the people must follow the state. If the people become so bold as to oppose the state as they did when they elected Trump, then their choice must be set aside or overthrown. Even if the people sense that the government is not acting in their best interest it is not their place to defy the state that knows best-of course it knows best for the state not the people.

The impeachment inquiries, launched to suggest that the president’s concerns about the activities of a crack-smoking, widow-servicing, brothel-hopping son of a then vice president is a propaganda show trial. With the former vice president on tape extorting influence money from Ukrainian officials by threatening to withhold aid, any reasonable observer can easily figure out who the real culprits are.

But propagandized hate wields a powerful influence, powerful enough to convince its targets to abandon democracy. Democracy means that the people decide who leads them at the ballot box, not by partisan government inventions of crimes against the state.

The president is a populist threatening the state and the state has no place for actual democracy. To the state it’s just a word.

Our de jure / lawful / constitutional form of government is a Republic. If the "Democracy" dies, then great. I want the Republic we were guaranteed in Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States.

A republic is a representational democracy. You have no point except the one on top of your head, super duper.

Cite the section of the Constitution where it says we are a representational democracy. The only thing a democracy represents is the majority.

Yes and when the majority elects Representatives that is a republic.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

There is a chilling possibility threatening our democracy obvious to those who watched the impeachment inquiries that have bottlenecked Congress preventing it from doing anything useful to solve the nation’s most pressing problems. That possibility is that the democratic party has produced such a stunted sense of reality among its followers that democracy itself could be in peril.

No one doubts that the transition from actual democracy to authoritarian oligarchy was well underway before Trump interrupted it. But the reaction to that upset by the industrial grade slobbering pomposity of the deep state has propagated such a delusional, true-believing, jack booted and hate-fueled national goon platoon of democratic voters that democracy itself is in the balance.

Only the most gullible of citizens is unaware that the president’s impeachment by the state was job one even before he took office in 2017. The danger is that the indoctrinated hatred of about half the US population is being used by the democratic party to attack democracy in order to preserve an elitist, autocratic, self-serving nucleus of embedded central planners armed with the aid and comfort of propaganda platforms disguised as objective national media.

In a democracy the people elect a president but in a controlled totalitarian state that has been masquerading as a democracy, the people must follow the state. If the people become so bold as to oppose the state as they did when they elected Trump, then their choice must be set aside or overthrown. Even if the people sense that the government is not acting in their best interest it is not their place to defy the state that knows best-of course it knows best for the state not the people.

The impeachment inquiries, launched to suggest that the president’s concerns about the activities of a crack-smoking, widow-servicing, brothel-hopping son of a then vice president is a propaganda show trial. With the former vice president on tape extorting influence money from Ukrainian officials by threatening to withhold aid, any reasonable observer can easily figure out who the real culprits are.

But propagandized hate wields a powerful influence, powerful enough to convince its targets to abandon democracy. Democracy means that the people decide who leads them at the ballot box, not by partisan government inventions of crimes against the state.

The president is a populist threatening the state and the state has no place for actual democracy. To the state it’s just a word.

Our de jure / lawful / constitutional form of government is a Republic. If the "Democracy" dies, then great. I want the Republic we were guaranteed in Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States.

A republic is a representational democracy. You have no point except the one on top of your head, super duper.

Cite the section of the Constitution where it says we are a representational democracy. The only thing a democracy represents is the majority.

That is the dictionary definition.

Dictionaries have changes in the meaning of words. Court rulings and legal interpretations don't change unless the law does.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

There is a chilling possibility threatening our democracy obvious to those who watched the impeachment inquiries that have bottlenecked Congress preventing it from doing anything useful to solve the nation’s most pressing problems. That possibility is that the democratic party has produced such a stunted sense of reality among its followers that democracy itself could be in peril.

No one doubts that the transition from actual democracy to authoritarian oligarchy was well underway before Trump interrupted it. But the reaction to that upset by the industrial grade slobbering pomposity of the deep state has propagated such a delusional, true-believing, jack booted and hate-fueled national goon platoon of democratic voters that democracy itself is in the balance.

Only the most gullible of citizens is unaware that the president’s impeachment by the state was job one even before he took office in 2017. The danger is that the indoctrinated hatred of about half the US population is being used by the democratic party to attack democracy in order to preserve an elitist, autocratic, self-serving nucleus of embedded central planners armed with the aid and comfort of propaganda platforms disguised as objective national media.

In a democracy the people elect a president but in a controlled totalitarian state that has been masquerading as a democracy, the people must follow the state. If the people become so bold as to oppose the state as they did when they elected Trump, then their choice must be set aside or overthrown. Even if the people sense that the government is not acting in their best interest it is not their place to defy the state that knows best-of course it knows best for the state not the people.

The impeachment inquiries, launched to suggest that the president’s concerns about the activities of a crack-smoking, widow-servicing, brothel-hopping son of a then vice president is a propaganda show trial. With the former vice president on tape extorting influence money from Ukrainian officials by threatening to withhold aid, any reasonable observer can easily figure out who the real culprits are.

But propagandized hate wields a powerful influence, powerful enough to convince its targets to abandon democracy. Democracy means that the people decide who leads them at the ballot box, not by partisan government inventions of crimes against the state.

The president is a populist threatening the state and the state has no place for actual democracy. To the state it’s just a word.

Our de jure / lawful / constitutional form of government is a Republic. If the "Democracy" dies, then great. I want the Republic we were guaranteed in Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States.

A republic is a representational democracy. You have no point except the one on top of your head, super duper.

Cite the section of the Constitution where it says we are a representational democracy. The only thing a democracy represents is the majority.

Yes and when the majority elects Representatives that is a republic.

We were guaranteed a Republic. That is a government that guarantees us that some Rights are above government reach and they will protect the people.

Secondly, we changed our government to a direct election of U.S. Senators, bastardizing our form of government. So, all you have now is an illegal, immoral and indefensible de facto government that parades itself around the very idea that the framers / founders found to be loathsome and repulsive.