‘Hell to pay’: Puerto Rico Governor to investigate delays in water, food deliveries

[JimBowie1958]

The politics suck. It's like certain individuals in PR want to decimate Trump and give him a Katrina.

That's not why the supplies are being diverted! I heard about this happening prior to Trump's visit. They are stealing the supplies and charging $$$ for them.
Like looters, only worse.

We should bring back execution for looting in cases of natural disaster and emergency food efforts like this.

Fucking scum.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

That's great calculations on your part dumb ass! The storm hit 3 weeks ago,

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

and, he still hasn't mowed my yard yet, either, the bum!

Trump has 2 million military people that can distribute emergency aid, water, food, restore, water, food, electric, roads, communications regardless of the conditions of it's devastated local government & it's infrastructure. It's been 35 day's since Trump declared Puerto Rico state of emergency & could not even get bottled water delivered. 35 US citizens died there over that period of time.

He does? PR has that many military personnel? You can't count days, so I would not recommend using any of your figures.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

and, he still hasn't mowed my yard yet, either, the bum!

Trump has 2 million military people that can distribute emergency aid, water, food, restore, water, food, electric, roads, communications regardless of the conditions of it's devastated local government & it's infrastructure. It's been 35 day's since Trump declared Puerto Rico state of emergency & could not even get bottled water delivered. 35 US citizens died there over that period of time.

Military people don't repair utility lines you moron!

Also, what exactly do you want done? We have ships, helicopters and many other assets already there. Why do you think they are not doing their best?

 

[EverCurious]

Related - a lady up here has family in PR who haven't gotten shit for help (not talking about poor folks here.) She had a donation thing at a friends restaurant and they gathered up something like a million dollars worth of supplies to help her family and friends back there. She was complaining loudly because there was no way to get it to them, no available shipping, no one to deliver it. Ultimately she had to rent a boat to get it to them, and she's going to have to pack it all down there on numerous flights. I guess the plus side is that a lot of it was medicine for her father and cousin so it's fairly portable stuff. She was saying that she can't even wire them money because the PR banks are out of cash.

Sounds like a real mess to be sure, but I'm not entirely sure it can be blamed on any one thing in particular, shit just fell apart and went to hell :/

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It appears that not everybody has forgotten about the devastation in Puerto Rico.

Governor Ricardo Rossello of Puerto Rico has ordered an investigation over water and food distribution on the hurricane-battered island after complaints that the supplies were not reaching the people in some areas.

"If there is a place, a locality that is not delivering food to the people of Puerto Rico that need it, there's going to be some hell to pay," Rossello said on Monday, according to Reuters.

Rossello said the government was trying to identify problems in the distribution pipeline, looking to ensure that local leaders deliver resources to people as soon as they arrive in the municipality.

"I think that there are places where water is being withheld and food is being withheld," Rossello said. "We need to showcase it, we need to push it forward to the people."

More @ ‘Hell to pay’: Puerto Rico Governor to investigate delays in water, food deliveries

Governor Ricardo needs to investigate that outrage. Boatloads of water, food, fuel and supplies are moored in San Juan but there they sit without the inland getting anything. Governor Ricardo needs to get an FBI investigation and prosecuted to the furthest extent of the law.

The Puerto Rico Government was destroyed. Their drivers are fighting to stay alive. They can't deliver supplies. The Federal Government is charged with getting the supplies & relief directly to the people. The Trump Administration Failed to do it's job regardless of what local officials are doing.

The US has bigger fish to fry than Puerto Rico. The US Army was very recently told to get ready to fight North Korea. When the Glorious Leader themonuke's the East Bay???

Would that be because our glorious orange leader ask the pentagon 3 times "if we have nukes, then why can't we use them?"?

I think but not sure that The Joint Chiefs of Staff have ultimate authority for nuke use. Trump does not have the codes and if he did could not interpret the complicated jargon.

edit: for instance, COMSEVENTHFLT

Nothing you posted is true. Absolutely NOTHING!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Governor Ricardo needs to investigate that outrage. Boatloads of water, food, fuel and supplies are moored in San Juan but there they sit without the inland getting anything. Governor Ricardo needs to get an FBI investigation and prosecuted to the furthest extent of the law.

The Puerto Rico Government was destroyed. Their drivers are fighting to stay alive. They can't deliver supplies. The Federal Government is charged with getting the supplies & relief directly to the people. The Trump Administration Failed to do it's job regardless of what local officials are doing.

The US has bigger fish to fry than Puerto Rico. The US Army was very recently told to get ready to fight North Korea. When the Glorious Leader themonuke's the East Bay???

Would that be because our glorious orange leader ask the pentagon 3 times "if we have nukes, then why can't we use them?"?

I think but not sure that The Joint Chiefs of Staff have ultimate authority for nuke use. Trump does not have the codes and if he did could not interpret the complicated jargon.

edit: for instance, COMSEVENTHFLT

I hope so, because my Mom started stockpiling food when she heard this. I had to tell her it was senseless because a nuclear exchange is not survivable. That nuclear weapons today are over than 3,300 times more powerful than the bomb we dropped on Hiroshima. Forget about "duck & cover" drills, stockpiles of water, food & weapons or bomb shelters. If that ever happens everyone is completely screwed.

Your math sucks.

 

[KissMy]

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

That's great calculations on your part dumb ass! The storm hit 3 weeks ago,

Sept 4th - Puerto Rico Declared State of Emergency

Sept 5th - Trump Approves Puerto Rico Emergency Declaration

 

[KissMy]

The Puerto Rico Government was destroyed. Their drivers are fighting to stay alive. They can't deliver supplies. The Federal Government is charged with getting the supplies & relief directly to the people. The Trump Administration Failed to do it's job regardless of what local officials are doing.

The US has bigger fish to fry than Puerto Rico. The US Army was very recently told to get ready to fight North Korea. When the Glorious Leader themonuke's the East Bay???

Would that be because our glorious orange leader ask the pentagon 3 times "if we have nukes, then why can't we use them?"?

I think but not sure that The Joint Chiefs of Staff have ultimate authority for nuke use. Trump does not have the codes and if he did could not interpret the complicated jargon.

edit: for instance, COMSEVENTHFLT

I hope so, because my Mom started stockpiling food when she heard this. I had to tell her it was senseless because a nuclear exchange is not survivable. That nuclear weapons today are over than 3,300 times more powerful than the bomb we dropped on Hiroshima. Forget about "duck & cover" drills, stockpiles of water, food & weapons or bomb shelters. If that ever happens everyone is completely screwed.

Your math sucks.

No - You Suck!

 

[Picaro]

PR is barely 30 miles wide for the most part, and the mountains are hardly the Himalayas, and the population is barely 3.5 million and highly concentrated around ports and coasts, and they have had hurricanes before, and knew this one was coming days before, and they know full well which areas tend to get stranded. The PR govt. is entirely to blame for the problems, and especially the Mayor of its capital, whose metro areas makes up over 2 thirds of the population, and has the major port, the fourth largest in the western hemisphere. The majority of the population is at most a couple hours walk from accessible places.

 

[Picaro]

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Sir, it is beyond obvious that you have barely even basic knowledge about what is going on in Puerto Rico in regards to relief efforts. You don't even know who the Governor is. How could you possibly have read even a single article about what the governor of Puerto Rico is doing or saying if you don't know the Governor is a man and not a "her" and a "bimbo".

Quit being silly; what do you think San Juan is, an inland tourist resort? You merely outed yourself as just another ignorant tard babbling narratives fed to you by your propaganda hive.

No, that is what you did bub. The discussion was about the Governor of Puerto Rico and you confused him with the mayor of the capital who had been in the press so much. The one babbling is you with your lack of information or understanding of the topic. But go ahead and point out any of my post that seems like babbling to you. I already called you out on one of yours, so it's your turn.

Wrong again. I wasn't citing the OP, for one, and as for being informed, you obviously aren't, know nothing about PR, and merely babbling stuff you read put out by the fever swamps mindlessly Trump Bashing. PR is not Australia, dumbass, it's small, and the population concentrated around San Juan; the Mayor is more important than the Governor, dumbass, and she has provided zilch other than making the same kinds of dumbass noises you and your bosses have.

 

[Windparadox]

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The criminal 1% that rule (or supposedly govern) PR are to blame for this. They have created an entitled class of people whom have become lazy, lethargic and uncaring.

 

[Marion Morrison]

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

and, he still hasn't mowed my yard yet, either, the bum!

Trump has 2 million military people that can distribute emergency aid, water, food, restore, water, food, electric, roads, communications regardless of the conditions of it's devastated local government & it's infrastructure. It's been 35 day's since Trump declared Puerto Rico state of emergency & could not even get bottled water delivered. 35 US citizens died there over that period of time.

Oh?

According to this, it's 1,373,650

Total Available Active Military Manpower by Country

Not all of those are relief workers. Duh!

So you're saying ..oh nevermind, you're Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!

Where'd you pull those figures from? Your colon?

 

[Marion Morrison]

It was the teamsters refusing to deliver the supplies, holding out for more money. I'd bet they have to give the mayor a cut.

 

[Picaro]

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

and, he still hasn't mowed my yard yet, either, the bum!

Trump has 2 million military people that can distribute emergency aid, water, food, restore, water, food, electric, roads, communications regardless of the conditions of it's devastated local government & it's infrastructure. It's been 35 day's since Trump declared Puerto Rico state of emergency & could not even get bottled water delivered. 35 US citizens died there over that period of time.

The problems with distribution in Puerto Rico would and do happen anywhere whenever there is a shortage of both supplies and manpower after a natural disaster.

The US government has no shortage of supplies or manpower & doesn't need any infrastructure to get them to it's people or evacuate those people. It should only take 3 days, not 35 days & counting. We have 2 million military plus FEMA. Yet just now deployed up to 15k a month later to rescue 3.5 million US citizens.

Our response is an embarrassment and a disgrace.
Random airdrops of supplies without supporting security and civil affairs personnel are normally only used for the first few days after the initial disaster. After the first few days, the drops should come with both the security and civil affairs personnel.

I remember how Gen. Honore was mocked for asking where the paratroopers were as soon as he put his boots on the ground, but that is what he was talking about. Teams should have been deployed in all those isolated areas to secure the supplies from looters, thugs, corrupt politicians, and mobs of desperate victims of the disaster to establish order and at least temporary operating facilities. That is SOP and why it was not done and still has not been done is an unknown question.

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

and, he still hasn't mowed my yard yet, either, the bum!

Trump has 2 million military people that can distribute emergency aid, water, food, restore, water, food, electric, roads, communications regardless of the conditions of it's devastated local government & it's infrastructure. It's been 35 day's since Trump declared Puerto Rico state of emergency & could not even get bottled water delivered. 35 US citizens died there over that period of time.

Oh?

According to this, it's 1,373,650

Total Available Active Military Manpower by Country

Not all of those are relief workers. Duh!

So you're saying ..oh nevermind, you're Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!

Where'd you pull those figures from? Your colon?

The U.S closed its bases in PR, because all these 'social justice warriors' didn't like them cuz they were all 'imperialist n stuff', and of course now they jump up and down over how their own stupid ideology is a major part of the 'problem'. They're idiots, and like I said before, they're frauds anyway.

Military of Puerto Rico - Wikipedia

Puerto Rico braces for the base closing

Also long gone are the Ramey air base. Where do these tards think a Big Giant Military depot is going to be set up, exactly, and why do these tards think such effforts can happen instantaneously? Oh yeah, they watch TV and everything happens within minutes on TV, you know. Winning WW II only took two or three hours in the movies.

So where is the PR National Guard? The state police?

At different times in the 20th century, the U.S. had about 25 military or naval installations in Puerto Rico, some very small ones,[2] as well as large installations. The largest of these installations were the former Roosevelt Roads Naval Station in Ceiba, the Roosevelt Roads Naval Station, and the Atlantic Fleet Weapons Training Facility (AFWTF) on Vieques (all now closed), the National Guard training facility at Camp Santiago in Salinas, Fort Allen in Juana Diaz, the Army's Fort Buchanan in San Juan, the former U.S. Air Force Ramey Air Force Base in Aguadilla, and the Puerto Rico Air National Guard at Muñiz Air Force base in San Juan.[3]

Military of Puerto Rico - Wikipedia

Overseas bases are 'bad', according to current fashionable idiocy ...

 

[EverCurious]

It's about accessibility, for some reason urban lefties don't get it. They have no concept that it becomes exceedingly difficult to move products when you have no functional roads. 13 miles sounds so small, but depending on the terrain it can very easily be /impassible/ as in we cannot get through it. We cannot just fly a thousand helicopters to every little village, its not logistically possible, planes cannot land, so we're left in a huge mess of having to drop supplies - outside of town so it doesn't kill anyone, which means people have the opportunity to loot it and there may be damages from the fall and so forth. Hell, even if we had transporter technology figured out we couldn't get supplies to some of these places, no power, no platform, etc.

It's unfortunate for those suffering no doubt, but it's reality. Nature owns this planet, we humans can only tame it temporarily...

 

[Picaro]

Vieques Wins Base Battle, But Takes a Hit

Then four years ago, a pilot made a tragic mistake. He dropped two bombs in the wrong place and killed David Sanes, a security guard. Immediately, activists started leading protests against the Navy bombing. They pulled down fences and invaded the property, saying the Navy must leave Vieques.

The activists claimed the bombing caused cancer and polluted the island.

Famous people joined the protests. Al Sharpton went through the fence. So did Robert Kennedy Jr. and actor Edward James Olmos.

Lots of politicians from New York, which has a large Puerto Rican population, got involved too, including Gov. George Pataki, Rep. Charles Rangel, Rep. Jose Serrano, and Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Back in 2000, President Clinton decided the Navy would stop the training in Vieques. "We have not always been good neighbors on Vieques," said Clinton.

President Bush supported that decision.

"These are our friends and neighbors and they don't want us there," Bush said.

U.S. Military Out of Vieques!

U.S. Military Out of Vieques!

 

[KissMy]

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

and, he still hasn't mowed my yard yet, either, the bum!

Trump has 2 million military people that can distribute emergency aid, water, food, restore, water, food, electric, roads, communications regardless of the conditions of it's devastated local government & it's infrastructure. It's been 35 day's since Trump declared Puerto Rico state of emergency & could not even get bottled water delivered. 35 US citizens died there over that period of time.

Oh?

According to this, it's 1,373,650

Total Available Active Military Manpower by Country

Not all of those are relief workers. Duh!

So you're saying ..oh nevermind, you're Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!

Where'd you pull those figures from? Your colon?

You left out 810,800 National Guard & Reserves

 

[KissMy]

It was the teamsters refusing to deliver the supplies, holding out for more money. I'd bet they have to give the mayor a cut.

The PR teamsters are busy keeping themselves & their family alive or have been evacuated.

 

[Marion Morrison]

They left thousands of containers delivered before the storm even hit at the ports, instead of moving them around to strategic areas noted for difficulty of getting to after storms hit.

The bloviating bimbo is merely covering up for her own incompetence and lack of leadership.

Trump had 30 days to get them distributed & failed!

and, he still hasn't mowed my yard yet, either, the bum!

Trump has 2 million military people that can distribute emergency aid, water, food, restore, water, food, electric, roads, communications regardless of the conditions of it's devastated local government & it's infrastructure. It's been 35 day's since Trump declared Puerto Rico state of emergency & could not even get bottled water delivered. 35 US citizens died there over that period of time.

Oh?

According to this, it's 1,373,650

Total Available Active Military Manpower by Country

Not all of those are relief workers. Duh!

So you're saying ..oh nevermind, you're Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!

Where'd you pull those figures from? Your colon?

You left out 810,800 National Guard & Reserves

So all bases around the world should be abandoned and all NG troops called up because: Puerto Rico, amirite?


Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!