Healthcare for all would cost $32 TRILLION over 10 years.

[deanrd]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

How will the savings be trillions if people live longer? What happens to social security?

Life expectancy has been going down in the Appalachian area as infant mortality rates go up.
Obviously Republicans dying is saving us money.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Ah, so suicide then.

I wouldn’t call it suicide. The health of my Soul is more important to me than the health of my body.

Refusing medical care to point of death is suicide. Nothing less.

I would guess he has not met his survival instinct face-to-face. That puts a non-academic spin on mortality.

 

[there4eyeM]

Healthcare will get paid for, one way or another. There will be costs to humanity for doctors, medicine, transportation, etc. It can all be done in a humanitarian fashion or to the profit of an avaricious few.

 

[dblack]

Healthcare will get paid for, one way or another. There will be costs to humanity for doctors, medicine, transportation, etc. It can all be done in a humanitarian fashion or to the profit of an avaricious few.

It can all be controlled by the state, or not.

 

[sparky]

it can be regulated by the state

~S~

 

[dblack]

it can be regulated by the state

~S~

Oh yes, "regulated", that's the euphemism I was looking for. My bad.

 

[eagle1462010]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

How will the savings be trillions if people live longer? What happens to social security?

Life expectancy has been going down in the Appalachian area as infant mortality rates go up.
Obviously Republicans dying is saving us money.

You are one hateful partisan bitch................never miss an opportunity to attack in any form against those who disagree with you.

It is people like you that will end this Republic.........should you be allowed to again gain power......You need to go back to being Dems like JFK........so you can be negotiated with again........and compromise can once again be the model in this country.................Given your side has gone so far left.............There WILL BE NO NEGOTIATION ANYMORE.

 

[joaquinmiller]

84% of med school students carry (State) student loan debt, which they will hopefully re-pay when they become licensed-to-practice by the State. Some will become hospitalists, in private hospitals, which would not survive without Medicare patients and payments.

Helluva way to achieve a 'market-based' healthcare system.

 

[there4eyeM]

Healthcare will get paid for, one way or another. There will be costs to humanity for doctors, medicine, transportation, etc. It can all be done in a humanitarian fashion or to the profit of an avaricious few.

It can all be controlled by the state, or not.

...or, it could be some blend, or there could even be original ideas.
In any case, resources are here for people, not the other way around.

 

[dblack]

Healthcare will get paid for, one way or another. There will be costs to humanity for doctors, medicine, transportation, etc. It can all be done in a humanitarian fashion or to the profit of an avaricious few.

It can all be controlled by the state, or not.

...or, it could be some blend, or there could even be original ideas.
In any case, resources are here for people, not the other way around.

You mean you want to get your hands on other people's resources.

 

[Anathema]

I would guess he has not met his survival instinct face-to-face. That puts a non-academic spin on mortality.

I have seen the black-cloaked specter first hand. He doesn’t scare me anywhere near as much as living in a Socialist hellhole such as the one we appear to be headed towards.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

So this is like the $2,500 savings from Obamacare, right?

$32 Trillion only sounds like a lot....lol

 

[otto105]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

Trumpcare will cost 42 trillion during that time.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

How does that work? Every time someone goes to a doctor, who would have previously gone without care, it takes 3 months off your life?

That works by me not being willing to take unconstitutional and immoral services from the Government. That includes Social Security and any form of medical care, including Medicare.

With my medical issues I figure I’d last about 2.5 to 3 years without medical care considering my personal medical issues.

RIP then dumbo.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

$32 trillion only sounds like a lot of money.

Thanks for clearing that up

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

We would save hundreds of billions by not paying the profit vampires in the insurance industry.

ZOMG!! You're a genius!! Let's cut out the car companies and give everyone a free car!!

 

[Crepitus]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

We would save hundreds of billions by not paying the profit vampires in the insurance industry.

ZOMG!! You're a genius!! Let's cut out the car companies and give everyone a free car!!

If you think insurance companies provide healthcare you are dumber than I thought.

And I already thought you were pretty damn stupid.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

$32 trillion is based on what we spend now but in theory if we had a far cheaper single payer system like used in Europe/Canada we could use the savings to pay off the national debt in 10-15 years. Since we are already socialist in health industry we might as well have the most efficient socialist system.

From Medicare for all to capitalism would be easier we'd just keep lowering premium payments and raising payments for service.

 

[dblack]

Healthcare will get paid for, one way or another. There will be costs to humanity for doctors, medicine, transportation, etc. It can all be done in a humanitarian fashion or to the profit of an avaricious few.

It can all be controlled by the state, or not.

...or, it could be some blend, or there could even be original ideas.

There is no room for original ideas in a government solution. We vote on it, majority rules and we're stuck with whatever they want.

 

[MedfordMan]

So I can’t put a link on this because I was just watching this on TV during a panel discussion.

So what they said was that 32 trillion sounds like a lot unless you look at the big picture. If you take all the money spent now to insurance companies and take the money that is used for eyeglasses and hearing aids and all that other kind of stuff and put it all together and then, in its place, healthcare for everyone, the estimated cost is $32 trillion over 10 years.

But the savings would be trillions.

So what they were saying was that over the next 10 years we’re going to spend way more than 32 trillion anyway.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. If we just follow the GOP plan of let the fukers die, then we will probably save some money.

Depending on how many Americans die, potentially we could save a lot of money. Thank God the rich ones will be OK.

The 32 trillion figure is predicated on cutting payments to providers 40%.

The Congress votes every year whether to cut payments to providers and they have never done so. Not one time.

I'm sure there are other flaws in the calculations that have led this figure quoted to be way too low, but right off the bat that number should be just over 53 trillion.