Health care overhaul insures 2.5 million more young adults

[Truthmatters]

Isurance companies dont make people well.

We should not allow them to make money off the sick

 

[Truthmatters]

The cons idea of a merry christmas.

Sick people dying in the street without care.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Isurance companies dont make people well.

We should not allow them to make money off the sick

All you are doing is proving, once again, you don't know jack fuck about how insurance works.

 

[WillowTree]

Obamacare Has Increased Cost of Health Insurance, Says Kaiser Foundation
Yay, Obamacare

Yeah, right, says the Kaiser Foundation So, how did Kaiser account for the fact that health care premiums have been rising more and more every year, even before Obama took office?

I thought the whole point of Obamacare was to lower premiums for everyone?

well that failed. just like his 8% unemployment and his shovel ready shit.

 

[ba1614]

Why are you pretending health care costs were NOT ALREADY rising before the bill?

Wasn't this bill to curtail that though?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The cons idea of a merry christmas.

Sick people dying in the street without care.

My only hope is that they are forced to eat cheap dog food prior to dying... and if I could get a good baby seal clubbing in that'd be great as well.

 

[J.E.D]

Yeah, right, says the Kaiser Foundation So, how did Kaiser account for the fact that health care premiums have been rising more and more every year, even before Obama took office?

I thought the whole point of Obamacare was to lower premiums for everyone?

Obama's gonna lower the seas too!

The law hasn't gone into full effect. Once the individual mandate goes into effect, the law will lead to lower premiums.

The Congressional Budget Office (the official government scoring agency) reported that they estimated the cost of an individual low-cost plan in the exchange to be $5,300 in 2016. This is a plan with an “actuarial value” (roughly, the share of expenses for a given population covered by insurance) of 70 percent. In their September 22 letter to the Senate Finance Committee, the CBO projected that, absent reform, the cost of an individual policy in the nongroup market would be $6,000 for a plan with an actuarial value of 60 percent. This implies that the same plan that cost $6,000 without reform would cost $4,540 with reform, or almost 25 percent less.

The CBO has not reported many of the details of their analysis, such as the age distribution of individuals in the nongroup market or in the exchange. So these data do not provide a strictly apples-to-apples comparison of premiums for the same individual in the exchange and in the no-reform, nongroup market. And their conclusion may change as legislation moves forward. But the key point is that, as of now, the most authoritative objective voice in this debate suggests that reform will significantly reduce, not increase, nongroup premiums.

This conclusion is consistent with evidence from Massachusetts. In their December 2007 report, AHIP reported that the average single premium at the end of 2006 for a nongroup product in the United States was $2,613. In a report issued just this week, AHIP found that the average single premium in mid-2009 was $2,985, or a 14 percent increase. That same report presents results for the nongroup markets in a set of states. One of those states is Massachusetts, which passed health-care reform similar to the one contemplated at the federal level in mid-2006. The major aspects of this reform took place in 2007, notably the introduction of large subsidies for low-income populations, a merged nongroup and small group insurance market, and a mandate on individuals to purchase health insurance. And the results have been an enormous reduction in the cost of nongroup insurance in the state: The average individual premium in the state fell from $8,537 at the end of 2006 to $5,143 in mid-2009, a 40 percent reduction, while the rest of the nation was seeing a 14 percent increase.

Ezra Klein - Massachusetts provides evidence that health-care reform lowers insurance premiums

 

[Truthmatters]

The cons idea of a merry christmas.

Sick people dying in the street without care.

My only hope is that they are forced to eat cheap dog food prior to dying... and if I could get a good baby seal clubbing in that'd be great as well.

Pretty much how you come off fella

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I thought the whole point of Obamacare was to lower premiums for everyone?

Obama's gonna lower the seas too!

The law hasn't gone into full effect. Once the individual mandate goes into effect, the law will lead to lower premiums.

The Congressional Budget Office (the official government scoring agency) reported that they estimated the cost of an individual low-cost plan in the exchange to be $5,300 in 2016. This is a plan with an “actuarial value” (roughly, the share of expenses for a given population covered by insurance) of 70 percent. In their September 22 letter to the Senate Finance Committee, the CBO projected that, absent reform, the cost of an individual policy in the nongroup market would be $6,000 for a plan with an actuarial value of 60 percent. This implies that the same plan that cost $6,000 without reform would cost $4,540 with reform, or almost 25 percent less.

The CBO has not reported many of the details of their analysis, such as the age distribution of individuals in the nongroup market or in the exchange. So these data do not provide a strictly apples-to-apples comparison of premiums for the same individual in the exchange and in the no-reform, nongroup market. And their conclusion may change as legislation moves forward. But the key point is that, as of now, the most authoritative objective voice in this debate suggests that reform will significantly reduce, not increase, nongroup premiums.

This conclusion is consistent with evidence from Massachusetts. In their December 2007 report, AHIP reported that the average single premium at the end of 2006 for a nongroup product in the United States was $2,613. In a report issued just this week, AHIP found that the average single premium in mid-2009 was $2,985, or a 14 percent increase. That same report presents results for the nongroup markets in a set of states. One of those states is Massachusetts, which passed health-care reform similar to the one contemplated at the federal level in mid-2006. The major aspects of this reform took place in 2007, notably the introduction of large subsidies for low-income populations, a merged nongroup and small group insurance market, and a mandate on individuals to purchase health insurance. And the results have been an enormous reduction in the cost of nongroup insurance in the state: The average individual premium in the state fell from $8,537 at the end of 2006 to $5,143 in mid-2009, a 40 percent reduction, while the rest of the nation was seeing a 14 percent increase.

Ezra Klein - Massachusetts provides evidence that health-care reform lowers insurance premiums

You come of as mildly retarded.

 

[Truthmatters]

Why are you pretending health care costs were NOT ALREADY rising before the bill?

Wasn't this bill to curtail that though?

It did stop it.

now go back and look at how much and how often the insurance crime squad was raising it two years before the bill.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Why are you pretending health care costs were NOT ALREADY rising before the bill?

Wasn't this bill to curtail that though?

It did stop it.

now go back and look at how much and how often the insurance crime squad was raising it two years before the bill.

OMG... what fucking planet do you libtards come from?

 

[DiamondDave]

Funny... they always had the freedom to buy it all on their own... a quick yahoo search and you can find health insurance plans being sold everywhere

 

[Meister]

why are you pretending health care costs were not already rising before the bill?

wasn't this bill to curtail that though?

it did stop it.

now go back and look at how much and how often the insurance crime squad was raising it two years before the bill.

huh?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

F*cked up entirely by the government....

Mortgage industry....check.
K-12 education......check.
Advanced education....almost...so let's go ahead and count it as check.

...Healthcare....NEXT!

Bump

 

[J.E.D]

You come of as mildly retarded.

Let's look at those facts again:

The major aspects of this reform took place in 2007, notably the introduction of large subsidies for low-income populations, a merged nongroup and small group insurance market, and a mandate on individuals to purchase health insurance. And the results have been an enormous reduction in the cost of nongroup insurance in the state: The average individual premium in the state fell from $8,537 at the end of 2006 to $5,143 in mid-2009, a 40 percent reduction, while the rest of the nation was seeing a 14 percent increase.

Can't dispute those facts, huh? That's what I thought. Maybe you would't be so soggy if you stopped soaking your head in your drool cup. Moron.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

My premiums have risen because of O care.

 

[The T]

More good news as a result of the new health care law. Go on, Republicans, tell these 2.5 million people that you want to take away their health insurance.

(CBS/AP) Since the new health care overhaul law took effect a year ago, 2.5 million young adults have gained insurance, according to a new report from the Obama administration.

The report - published Wednesday by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - shows an increase 2 1/2 times larger than government and private estimates from earlier this year. The previous estimate was that 1 million Americans ages 19-25 had gained coverage.

Administration officials said they now have more data and are slicing the numbers more precisely than the government usually does in an effort to pinpoint the new law's impact.

Under the health overhaul, children can remain on their parents' health insurance plans until they turn 26. Families have flocked to sign up young adults making the transition to work in tough economic times.

According to the government survey, nearly 36 percent of Americans ages 19-25 - more than 10.5 million people - were uninsured in the third quarter of 2010, before the law's provision took effect. Most workplace health plans started carrying the provision Jan. 1, 2011. By the second quarter of 2011, the proportion of uninsured young adults had dropped to a little over 27 percent, or about 8 million people.

The 2.5 million difference can only be the result of the health care law, administration officials said, because the number covered by public programs like Medicaid went down slightly.

Health care overhaul insures 2.5 million more young adults - HealthPop - CBS News

When you educate yourself about the true limited function of Government, and the kicker...Personal Responsibility?

Come back and see us.

MOST young adults see themselves as indestructable abd are more interested in using thier money to party and other material things.

Buying healthcare is the furthest thing from thier minds.

And that is Human Nature.

 

[J.E.D]

More good news as a result of the new health care law. Go on, Republicans, tell these 2.5 million people that you want to take away their health insurance.

(CBS/AP) Since the new health care overhaul law took effect a year ago, 2.5 million young adults have gained insurance, according to a new report from the Obama administration.

The report - published Wednesday by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - shows an increase 2 1/2 times larger than government and private estimates from earlier this year. The previous estimate was that 1 million Americans ages 19-25 had gained coverage.

Administration officials said they now have more data and are slicing the numbers more precisely than the government usually does in an effort to pinpoint the new law's impact.

Under the health overhaul, children can remain on their parents' health insurance plans until they turn 26. Families have flocked to sign up young adults making the transition to work in tough economic times.

According to the government survey, nearly 36 percent of Americans ages 19-25 - more than 10.5 million people - were uninsured in the third quarter of 2010, before the law's provision took effect. Most workplace health plans started carrying the provision Jan. 1, 2011. By the second quarter of 2011, the proportion of uninsured young adults had dropped to a little over 27 percent, or about 8 million people.

The 2.5 million difference can only be the result of the health care law, administration officials said, because the number covered by public programs like Medicaid went down slightly.

Health care overhaul insures 2.5 million more young adults - HealthPop - CBS News

When you educate yourself about the true limited function of Government, and the kicker...Personal Responsibility?

Come back and see us.

MOST young adults see themselves as indestructable abd are more interested in using thier money to party and other material things.

Buying healthcare is the furthest thing from thier minds.

And that is Human Nature.

If you knew anything about personal responsibility, you'd support the law, because it requires everybody to be personally responsible for their own health insurance. And apparently, health care ISN'T the furthest thing from the minds of the 2.5 million more people who now have health insurance, thanks to the ACA. Get it? Good.

 

[bripat9643]

More good news as a result of the new health care law. Go on, Republicans, tell these 2.5 million people that you want to take away their health insurance.

You forgot to mention that this very provision is driving up premiums at alarming rates.

 

[bripat9643]

If you knew anything about personal responsibility, you'd support the law, because it requires everybody to be personally responsible for their own health insurance. And apparently, health care ISN'T the furthest thing from the minds of the 2.5 million more people who now have health insurance, thanks to the ACA. Get it? Good.

So your idea of "personal responsibility" is doing what your told to do with a gun pointed at your head?