Heads up: I can't stand "Catholics" (so called) who vote Democrat

[rightwinger]

And He didn't demand that the government steal from some to give to others.

Jesus never said Government should not care about the needs of the people.

If you know anything about Jesus you know he would support a caring Government

 

[rightwinger]

That's not what it means. You're just making up definitions to fit your agenda. Stop it.

The only piece of information you need to demolish your idea is that Jesus refused to allow those around Him to lie to themselves. He called them what they were, not what they wanted to be called. That's the opposite of woke.

woke
verb

1. past of wake1.

adjective
SOMETIMES DEROGATORY
adjective: woke; comparative adjective: woker; superlative adjective: wokest

1. alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.
   "he's an activist and very woke"

 

[hadit]

You Reps are something else. You shot down the border bill, so shut your f-ing mouths on undocumented workers! You sleep in the bed YOU made!

They didn't make the bed, Quid Pro Joe did that in his first days in office. He then appointed Cackles to oversee the border. What has she been doing all this time that he now all of a sudden needs Congress to write new laws?

 

[hadit]

Jesus never said Government should not care about the needs of the people.

If you know anything about Jesus you know he would support a caring Government

Jesus never said much of anything about the government, even though the one He lived under was hardly known for taking care of the "needs of the people". He didn't, for example, call for overthrowing the government, rebelling against it, protesting and rioting to get proper pronouns written into the law or anything of the sort. I know a lot about Jesus and I know He cares a whole lot MORE about what in an individual's heart than He does about a government. A government He can replace in a moment, a heart He needs to patiently woo.

But it's entertaining to see those of you who do not even believe in Jesus attempt to tell us who do what He would think about something. Please, continue.

 

[rightwinger]

He didn't, for example, call for overthrowing the government, rebelling against it, protesting and rioting

Trump

 

[rightwinger]

But it's entertaining to see those of you who do not even believe in Jesus attempt to tell us who do what He would think about something. Please, continue.

Jesus was Woke
Woke has nothing to do with pronouns but is concerned with social injustice and discrimination

Jesus cared about the oppressed

 

[Billo_Really]

The

They didn't make the bed, Quid Pro Joe did that in his first days in office. He then appointed Cackles to oversee the border. What has she been doing all this time that he now all of a sudden needs Congress to write new laws?

There was a bi-partisan border bill, you fuckers shot it down! That's on you!

 

[1srelluc]

There has been a big influx of Catholics in my AO and the only problem i see with them is that they vote gop straight down the line.

That's fine in state and national elections but not so great for local elections as we mostly vote for slow-growth independents.

Fuckin' local gopers never saw a patch of land they did not want to build out and we have to stand on them constantly for it.....The joke in town is just drive by the gop HQ and don't vote for anyone on a sign there in local elections.

The influx seems to be due to this place constantly expanding....From what I understand it's pretty conservative and take no fed money.

Christendom College - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is also a new Catholic church stated to be built in town over the next couple years....I don't know which bunch it's affiliated with but they have been flocking to my AO for a few years now.

Once ‘Helltown,’ Front Royal emerges as a Catholic destination - Arlington Catholic Herald

 

[hadit]

Trump

TRUMP! has nothing to do with Jesus, I thought you knew that. Why do you insist on bringing politicians into a discussion about someone so far above them they don't even matter?

 

[hadit]

woke
verb

1. past of wake1.

adjective
SOMETIMES DEROGATORY
adjective: woke; comparative adjective: woker; superlative adjective: wokest

1. alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.
   "he's an activist and very woke"

That's what I said, it's not "Woke means caring for the oppressed", as you said. Caring FOR someone goes far beyond caring ABOUT a societal anything and feeling good because you do. Caring for someone means getting involved in their lives, not just feeling virtuous because you agree with a generic sentiment that costs you nothing. Jesus was not about feelings that cost you nothing, He was about giving that costs you everything. IOW, being woke is just a meaningless feeling, actually caring about someone is action.

Sigh, it's clear we have a lot of educating to do with this one.

 

[rightwinger]

That's what I said, it's not "Woke means caring for the oppressed", as you said. Caring FOR someone goes far beyond caring ABOUT a societal anything and feeling good because you do. Caring for someone means getting involved in their lives, not just feeling virtuous because you agree with a generic sentiment that costs you nothing. Jesus was not about feelings that cost you nothing, He was about giving that costs you everything. IOW, being woke is just a meaningless feeling, actually caring about someone is action.

Sigh, it's clear we have a lot of educating to do with this one.

Jesus was Woke

He cared deeply about social injustice (the oppressed) and discrimination

Calling Jesus Woke is a complement

 

[hadit]

Jesus was Woke

He cared deeply about social injustice (the oppressed) and discrimination

Calling Jesus Woke is a complement

Being woke is a political tool and is used as a rhetorical club to denigrate others, not help anyone. Jesus is apolitical, and not woke. Today, He would not endorse any candidate or platform, and if He met with world leaders He would call them out on their sin, not let them lie to themselves or to us. "You'll save $2,500 a year and can keep your doctor", for example, would not be acceptable. The next time He gets involved in politics, it will be to totally take control, so good luck trying to insist He has to fit in your incredibly small mold.

To you, caring about social injustice and discrimination means agreeing with a political party so you can feel self-righteous and criticize others for disagreeing. To Jesus, caring about social injustice and discrimination means loving people enough to accept them where they are while calling them to repent of their sin and selfishness. It means getting involved in people's lives to the point they trust you to help them, NOT expecting a government program to take over and throw confiscated taxpayer money at them. You know, things that the "woke" hate, because they don't require government control and are voluntary in nature. It means hiring people to do work even if they posted on social media that they are sympathetic to people getting lengthy prison sentences for merely walking into the Capitol building and leaving. It means having the courage to gently and lovingly let people know that they really are not a cat just because they want to be one and they cannot take a dump in the lobby while working for you. It means being willing to sacrifice our own comfort to let others know they're really cared about, not just give lip service to a government program.

Being woke, using today's definition, involves not only allowing people to lie to themselves and others but validating those lies. Therefore, Jesus is not woke, because He is all about truth, not lies. Now, you're trying to be cute, but as I've said before, Jesus doesn't care about your politics, He's far bigger than any political party or platform, and He cannot be shoehorned into any political ideology. Those who attempt to use Him for political purposes are simply wrong.

One final thought, if you are indeed trying to bring Jesus in to bolster your argument for a political ideology, are you not attempting to set up a theocracy? Or are you planning to simply jettison Him as soon as you achieve the power over other people's lives you're trying to gain?

 

[Zincwarrior]

This is not a Zone One thread. This is just an attack thread.

 

[rightwinger]

Being woke is a political tool and is used as a rhetorical club to denigrate others, not help anyone. Jesus is apolitical, and not woke. Today, He would not endorse any candidate or platform, and if He met with world leaders He would call them out on their sin, not let them lie to themselves or to us. "You'll save $2,500 a year and can keep your doctor", for example, would not be acceptable. The next time He gets involved in politics, it will be to totally take control, so good luck trying to insist He has to fit in your incredibly small mold.

To you, caring about social injustice and discrimination means agreeing with a political party so you can feel self-righteous and criticize others for disagreeing. To Jesus, caring about social injustice and discrimination means loving people enough to accept them where they are while calling them to repent of their sin and selfishness. It means getting involved in people's lives to the point they trust you to help them, NOT expecting a government program to take over and throw confiscated taxpayer money at them. You know, things that the "woke" hate, because they don't require government control and are voluntary in nature. It means hiring people to do work even if they posted on social media that they are sympathetic to people getting lengthy prison sentences for merely walking into the Capitol building and leaving. It means having the courage to gently and lovingly let people know that they really are not a cat just because they want to be one and they cannot take a dump in the lobby while working for you. It means being willing to sacrifice our own comfort to let others know they're really cared about, not just give lip service to a government program.

Being woke, using today's definition, involves not only allowing people to lie to themselves and others but validating those lies. Therefore, Jesus is not woke, because He is all about truth, not lies. Now, you're trying to be cute, but as I've said before, Jesus doesn't care about your politics, He's far bigger than any political party or platform, and He cannot be shoehorned into any political ideology. Those who attempt to use Him for political purposes are simply wrong.

One final thought, if you are indeed trying to bring Jesus in to bolster your argument for a political ideology, are you not attempting to set up a theocracy? Or are you planning to simply jettison Him as soon as you achieve the power over other people's lives you're trying to gain?

Being woke has nothing to do with politics
It just means you are aware of the struggles of others and are willing to help

The people who struggle in society today are different than when Jesus was around. But Jesus still cared

Because he was woke

 

[hadit]

Being woke has nothing to do with politics
It just means you are aware of the struggles of others and are willing to help

Does that mean you're willing to get involved with people and be uncomfortable, or does it just mean that you agree with a political platform and want the government to throw confiscated taxpayer money at the problem?

The people who struggle in society today are different than when Jesus was around. But Jesus still cared

If you look at history, you will realize that there is nothing new under the sun, and the struggles of people today have been the struggles of mankind throughout history. We do no one a favor when we affirm lies they tell themselves.

Because he was woke

Then you would be willing to say that Republicans are woke, because they are aware of the struggles of others and are willing to help (again, help, not write government programs that confiscate money from those who earned it to throw at the problem). If you can't say that, then to you woke is political.

 

[rightwinger]

Does that mean you're willing to get involved with people and be uncomfortable, or does it just mean that you agree with a political platform and want the government to throw confiscated taxpayer money at the problem?

If you look at history, you will realize that there is nothing new under the sun, and the struggles of people today have been the struggles of mankind throughout history. We do no one a favor when we affirm lies they tell themselves.

Then you would be willing to say that Republicans are woke, because they are aware of the struggles of others and are willing to help (again, help, not write government programs that confiscate money from those who earned it to throw at the problem). If you can't say that, then to you woke is political.

Again you just don’t get Woke……it is not politics

Republicans use it as a taunt but it just mean caring for those being discriminated by society.

You are welcome to provide a better accepted definition

 

[rightwinger]

Then you would be willing to say that Republicans are woke, because they are aware of the struggles of others and are willing to help (again, help, not write government programs that confiscate money from those who earned it to throw at the problem).

It doesn’t matter where the money comes from private or government…as long as they are helped

Government is in a unique position to ban official discrimination

 

[22lcidw]

My Faith teaches me that those who voted for Trump are headed for Hell

All you have to do is stop government spending on people living irresponsible.

 

[Blaster]

Catholics have been a big part of the Democrat voting bloc for decades despite the pro abortion agenda of that party.

 

[rightwinger]

Catholics have been a big part of the Democrat voting bloc for decades despite the pro abortion agenda of that party.

American Catholics supported Roe v Wade, birth control and divorce which are opposed by the church