HBO's 'Watchmen' recreates the 1921 Tulsa race massacre, exposing viewers to an ugly chapter

[RoshawnMarkwees]

American history is replete with ugly chapters, as is the history of every nation ever conceived.

The trick to civilization is not to let those chapters define who you are, but to continually learn from, and not repeat them in the future.

Problem is that rehashing those incidents creates great opportunity for marxists to give the impression that they’re recent and thereby help usurp the culture.

So its best to pretend it never happened? foh

Obviously the best course of action would be to move the fuck on already and stop wallowing in it but nah

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Wallowing in black victimhood in general. This story is just an opportunity for the demagogues to dwell.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

American history is replete with ugly chapters, as is the history of every nation ever conceived.

The trick to civilization is not to let those chapters define who you are, but to continually learn from, and not repeat them in the future.

Problem is that rehashing those incidents creates great opportunity for marxists to give the impression that they’re recent and thereby help usurp the culture.

So its best to pretend it never happened? foh

Obviously the best course of action would be to move the fuck on already and stop wallowing in it but nah

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Wallowing in black victimhood in general. This story is just an opportunity for the demagogues to dwell.

Well..I'll not deny that you have a point..as far as that goes. However, I see just as much wallowing in White victimhood--with a lot less reason.
The thing about playing the victim card, no matter who does it, is that it is a permission giver for all sorts of atrocious behavior.
Putting aside those who use this feeling of victinhood to advance their personal ambitions..most Blacks i know would like a formal acknowledgment of the abuses of the past. We did it for the Japanese internee of WWII--why not do it for the Black American of today. I'm not in favor of reparations..the idea is asinine. But a formal apology...seems the least we, as a nation, can do. It is the responsibility of those of color to stop their whining, as well--address legitimate concerns and understand that cultures change slowly..and replacing their past position in our culture with white people is not going to happen..we are not going to take 'our turn in the barrel'--live with it.

As for the whining of the white underclass about how they're being victimized..grow the fuck up....thank your lucky stars that you were not born with the same baggage as Black Americans..deal with whatever baggage you do have..and grow a thicker skin. Blaming others makes you weak. The only fairness that life gives us is the fairness we make.

Cowboy and cowgirl up..and stop whining.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Problem is that rehashing those incidents creates great opportunity for marxists to give the impression that they’re recent and thereby help usurp the culture.

So its best to pretend it never happened? foh

Obviously the best course of action would be to move the fuck on already and stop wallowing in it but nah

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Wallowing in black victimhood in general. This story is just an opportunity for the demagogues to dwell.

Well..I'll not deny that you have a point..as far as that goes. However, I see just as much wallowing in White victimhood--with a lot less reason.
The thing about playing the victim card, no matter who does it, is that it is a permission giver for all sorts of atrocious behavior.
Putting aside those who use this feeling of victinhood to advance their personal ambitions..most Blacks i know would like a formal acknowledgment of the abuses of the past. We did it for the Japanese internee of WWII--why not do it for the Black American of today. I'm not in favor of reparations..the idea is asinine. But a formal apology...seems the least we, as a nation, can do. It is the responsibility of those of color to stop their whining, as well--address legitimate concerns and understand that cultures change slowly..and replacing their past position in our culture with white people is not going to happen..we are not going to take 'our turn in the barrel'--live with it.

As for the whining of the white underclass about how they're being victimized..grow the fuck up....thank your lucky stars that you were not born with the same baggage as Black Americans..deal with whatever baggage you do have..and grow a thicker skin. Blaming others makes you weak. The only fairness that life gives us is the fairness we make.

Cowboy and cowgirl up..and stop whining.

So white privilege is a term to describe white victimhood? You’re delusional.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

So its best to pretend it never happened? foh

Obviously the best course of action would be to move the fuck on already and stop wallowing in it but nah

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Wallowing in black victimhood in general. This story is just an opportunity for the demagogues to dwell.

Well..I'll not deny that you have a point..as far as that goes. However, I see just as much wallowing in White victimhood--with a lot less reason.
The thing about playing the victim card, no matter who does it, is that it is a permission giver for all sorts of atrocious behavior.
Putting aside those who use this feeling of victinhood to advance their personal ambitions..most Blacks i know would like a formal acknowledgment of the abuses of the past. We did it for the Japanese internee of WWII--why not do it for the Black American of today. I'm not in favor of reparations..the idea is asinine. But a formal apology...seems the least we, as a nation, can do. It is the responsibility of those of color to stop their whining, as well--address legitimate concerns and understand that cultures change slowly..and replacing their past position in our culture with white people is not going to happen..we are not going to take 'our turn in the barrel'--live with it.

As for the whining of the white underclass about how they're being victimized..grow the fuck up....thank your lucky stars that you were not born with the same baggage as Black Americans..deal with whatever baggage you do have..and grow a thicker skin. Blaming others makes you weak. The only fairness that life gives us is the fairness we make.

Cowboy and cowgirl up..and stop whining.

So white privilege is a term to describe white victimhood? You’re delusional.

I said nothing of the sort..you're delusional....and unwilling to accept the truth of your obsession..too bad for you.

 

[Flash]

I like the original Watchmen. However, I heard this filthy ass HBO series was going to be a "hate Whitey" piece of Libtard Hollywood shit so I passed on watching..

Nope..not hate whitey..hate racist White Supremacists--yeah, probably..but that's a GOOD thing.

Filthy Neggra main character kicking Whitey's ass? Libtard Hollywood Liberal's wet dream.

The bitch should have been going after the Neggra crime in South Chicago. More Neggras get killed in one night there than are killed by the Left's bogeyman of "White Supremacists" in ten years.

 

[Jitss617]

Democrats divide and conquer tactics of working

I saw a trailer want to many blacks ...

One of my favorite movies is action Jackson the main characters a black guy but it was just a kick ass American why do we have to divide by race ?

 

[konradv]

I like the original Watchmen. However, I heard this filthy ass HBO series was going to be a "hate Whitey" piece of Libtard Hollywood shit so I passed on watching..

Nope..not hate whitey..hate racist White Supremacists--yeah, probably..but that's a GOOD thing.

Filthy Neggra main character kicking Whitey's ass? Libtard Hollywood Liberal's wet dream. The bitch should have been going after the Neggra crime in South Chicago. More Neggras get killed in one night there than are killed by the Left's bogeyman of "White Supremacists" in ten years.

Triggered much?!?!

 

[Godboy]

Problem is that rehashing those incidents creates great opportunity for marxists to give the impression that they’re recent and thereby help usurp the culture.

So its best to pretend it never happened? foh

Obviously the best course of action would be to move the fuck on already and stop wallowing in it but nah

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Its mostly an unproven conspiracy theory. I laughed when i saw US warplanes bombing Tulsa in episode 1. Never happened and there is no proof that it did. Ive also seen plenty of sources with ridiculously inflated numbers of deaths.

Tulsa race riot - Wikipedia
Oklahoma Bombing: Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 - InfoBarrel

As far as I've been able to discover..you are right..no US airplanes bombed Tulsa..however..a number of privately owned planes did fire-bomb and strafe black citizens...this has been confirmed by numerous accounts. There is some debate as to whether or not high explosives were used, (nitroglycerin). As for the show's depiction of the event..it is fiction, after all, right?

Attack by air
"Numerous eyewitnesses described airplanes carrying white assailants, who fired rifles and dropped firebombs on buildings, homes, and fleeing families. The privately owned aircraft were dispatched from the nearby Curtiss-Southwest Field outside Tulsa.[45]

Law enforcement officials later said that the planes were to provide reconnaissance and protect against a "Negro uprising".[45] Law enforcement personnel were thought to be aboard at least some flights.[1][page needed] Eyewitness accounts, such as testimony from the survivors during Commission hearings and a manuscript by eyewitness and attorney Buck Colbert Franklin discovered in 2015, said that on the morning of June 1, at least "a dozen or more" planes circled the neighborhood and dropped "burning turpentine balls" on an office building, a hotel, a filling station, and multiple other buildings. Men also fired rifles at young and old black residents, gunning them down in the street.[45][7]

Richard S. Warner concluded in his submission to The Oklahoma Commission that contrary to later reports by claimed eyewitnesses of seeing explosions, there was no reliable evidence to support such attacks.[1]:107 Warner noted that while a number of newspapers targeted at black readers heavily reported the use of nitroglycerin, turpentine and rifles from the planes, many cited anonymous sources or second-hand accounts.[1]:107 Beryl Ford, one of the preeminent historians of the disaster, concluded from her large collection of photographs that there was no evidence of any building damaged by explosions.[1]:106 Danney Goble commended Warner on his efforts and supported his conclusions.[1]:6 State representative Don Ross (born in Tulsa in 1941), however, dissented from the evidence presented in the report concluding that bombs were in fact dropped from planes during the violence.[1]rologue;viii

William Joseph Simmons, Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, was appointed head of The Knights of the Air on May 20, 1921. The organization was described as a fraternal organization for former air force officers. A spokesperson for the organization publicly denounced the Ku Klux Klan and denied any connection.[46]"

Im just supposed to take the word of a few people who were angry over the incident? Show me proof that planes were used. If they were used, you would have had THOUSANDS of people reporting it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

There are Twitter comments embedded in this new article which mention details I never new about the Tulsa "Race Riot" aside from the commentary about how classifying it as a race riot instead of an act of domestic terrorism makes it sound as if this was something caused by the blacks or that they brought upon themselves. I was confounded to read that the white mob looted the black banks and the insurance companies refused to cover their losses. They also mention the airborn acts via planes.

The facts of the Tulsa massacre appeared to have been unknown to many "Watchmen" viewers, who expressed their disbelief on social media.

Dajour Ashwood, Steven Norfleet and Alexis Louder in a scene from "Watchmen."Mark Hill / HBO

Oct. 21, 2019, 8:57 AM PDT

By Daniel Arkin

The premiere of HBO's "Watchmen" was packed with allusions to the dense mythology of the landmark 1980s graphic novel that inspired it, thrilling fans and newcomers alike. But a solemn nod to a real-world event appears to have left the greatest impression on viewers.

The pilot episode opened with a stylized, searing recreation of the Tulsa race massacre of 1921, a two-day explosion of violence in which white Oklahomans killed hundreds of African-Americans and burned businesses in a prosperous district known as "Black Wall Street." The bloody attack is considered "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history," according to the Oklahoma Historical Society.

The facts of the Tulsa massacre — bullets flying, buildings aflame — appeared to have been unknown to many "Watchmen" viewers who expressed their disbelief on social media. Some said they were appalled to first learn of the event through a superhero-themed television show, while others blamed the country's educational system for failing to highlight it in history curricula.

The attack, coming amid the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan and racial terror through much of the country, was not widely reported at the time. "News reports were largely squelched, despite the fact that hundreds of people were killed and thousands left homeless," History.com says in an overview of the violent siege.

The unsettling recreation of the Tulsa massacre helped set the tone for the "Watchmen" series, which has been described by creator Damon Lindelof ("Lost," "The Leftovers") as an ambitious "remix" of the celebrated 12-part comic series by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.

The original comic confronted the Cold War and the specter of nuclear annihilation. But the provocative new series, set 30 years after the events of the original, is expected to tackle racism and white supremacy, centering on an American-African woman (Regina King's Sister Night) living in an alternate — but painfully familiar — version of recent American history.

Opinion | "Watchmen" is one of the year’s most fascinating entertainment experiments​

Cool, I get tired of educating people about it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Obviously the best course of action would be to move the fuck on already and stop wallowing in it but nah

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Wallowing in black victimhood in general. This story is just an opportunity for the demagogues to dwell.

Well..I'll not deny that you have a point..as far as that goes. However, I see just as much wallowing in White victimhood--with a lot less reason.
The thing about playing the victim card, no matter who does it, is that it is a permission giver for all sorts of atrocious behavior.
Putting aside those who use this feeling of victinhood to advance their personal ambitions..most Blacks i know would like a formal acknowledgment of the abuses of the past. We did it for the Japanese internee of WWII--why not do it for the Black American of today. I'm not in favor of reparations..the idea is asinine. But a formal apology...seems the least we, as a nation, can do. It is the responsibility of those of color to stop their whining, as well--address legitimate concerns and understand that cultures change slowly..and replacing their past position in our culture with white people is not going to happen..we are not going to take 'our turn in the barrel'--live with it.

As for the whining of the white underclass about how they're being victimized..grow the fuck up....thank your lucky stars that you were not born with the same baggage as Black Americans..deal with whatever baggage you do have..and grow a thicker skin. Blaming others makes you weak. The only fairness that life gives us is the fairness we make.

Cowboy and cowgirl up..and stop whining.

So white privilege is a term to describe white victimhood? You’re delusional.

I said nothing of the sort..you're delusional....and unwilling to accept the truth of your obsession..too bad for you.

You complained about white victimhood but failed to reconcile white privilege. Can’t have both.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

So its best to pretend it never happened? foh

Obviously the best course of action would be to move the fuck on already and stop wallowing in it but nah

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Its mostly an unproven conspiracy theory. I laughed when i saw US warplanes bombing Tulsa in episode 1. Never happened and there is no proof that it did. Ive also seen plenty of sources with ridiculously inflated numbers of deaths.

Tulsa race riot - Wikipedia
Oklahoma Bombing: Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 - InfoBarrel

As far as I've been able to discover..you are right..no US airplanes bombed Tulsa..however..a number of privately owned planes did fire-bomb and strafe black citizens...this has been confirmed by numerous accounts. There is some debate as to whether or not high explosives were used, (nitroglycerin). As for the show's depiction of the event..it is fiction, after all, right?

Attack by air
"Numerous eyewitnesses described airplanes carrying white assailants, who fired rifles and dropped firebombs on buildings, homes, and fleeing families. The privately owned aircraft were dispatched from the nearby Curtiss-Southwest Field outside Tulsa.[45]

Law enforcement officials later said that the planes were to provide reconnaissance and protect against a "Negro uprising".[45] Law enforcement personnel were thought to be aboard at least some flights.[1][page needed] Eyewitness accounts, such as testimony from the survivors during Commission hearings and a manuscript by eyewitness and attorney Buck Colbert Franklin discovered in 2015, said that on the morning of June 1, at least "a dozen or more" planes circled the neighborhood and dropped "burning turpentine balls" on an office building, a hotel, a filling station, and multiple other buildings. Men also fired rifles at young and old black residents, gunning them down in the street.[45][7]

Richard S. Warner concluded in his submission to The Oklahoma Commission that contrary to later reports by claimed eyewitnesses of seeing explosions, there was no reliable evidence to support such attacks.[1]:107 Warner noted that while a number of newspapers targeted at black readers heavily reported the use of nitroglycerin, turpentine and rifles from the planes, many cited anonymous sources or second-hand accounts.[1]:107 Beryl Ford, one of the preeminent historians of the disaster, concluded from her large collection of photographs that there was no evidence of any building damaged by explosions.[1]:106 Danney Goble commended Warner on his efforts and supported his conclusions.[1]:6 State representative Don Ross (born in Tulsa in 1941), however, dissented from the evidence presented in the report concluding that bombs were in fact dropped from planes during the violence.[1]rologue;viii

William Joseph Simmons, Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, was appointed head of The Knights of the Air on May 20, 1921. The organization was described as a fraternal organization for former air force officers. A spokesperson for the organization publicly denounced the Ku Klux Klan and denied any connection.[46]"

Im just supposed to take the word of a few people who were angry over the incident? Show me proof that planes were used. If they were used, you would have had THOUSANDS of people reporting it.

In 1921..uh huh. If you are interested..do the research..but I have the feeling that the truth..is of no real interest to you....no matter. Does it even matter..your position is set in concrete.

 

[2aguy]

There are Twitter comments embedded in this new article which mention details I never new about the Tulsa "Race Riot" aside from the commentary about how classifying it as a race riot instead of an act of domestic terrorism makes it sound as if this was something caused by the blacks or that they brought upon themselves. I was confounded to read that the white mob looted the black banks and the insurance companies refused to cover their losses. They also mention the airborn acts via planes.

The facts of the Tulsa massacre appeared to have been unknown to many "Watchmen" viewers, who expressed their disbelief on social media.

Dajour Ashwood, Steven Norfleet and Alexis Louder in a scene from "Watchmen."Mark Hill / HBO

Oct. 21, 2019, 8:57 AM PDT

By Daniel Arkin

The premiere of HBO's "Watchmen" was packed with allusions to the dense mythology of the landmark 1980s graphic novel that inspired it, thrilling fans and newcomers alike. But a solemn nod to a real-world event appears to have left the greatest impression on viewers.

The pilot episode opened with a stylized, searing recreation of the Tulsa race massacre of 1921, a two-day explosion of violence in which white Oklahomans killed hundreds of African-Americans and burned businesses in a prosperous district known as "Black Wall Street." The bloody attack is considered "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history," according to the Oklahoma Historical Society.

The facts of the Tulsa massacre — bullets flying, buildings aflame — appeared to have been unknown to many "Watchmen" viewers who expressed their disbelief on social media. Some said they were appalled to first learn of the event through a superhero-themed television show, while others blamed the country's educational system for failing to highlight it in history curricula.

The attack, coming amid the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan and racial terror through much of the country, was not widely reported at the time. "News reports were largely squelched, despite the fact that hundreds of people were killed and thousands left homeless," History.com says in an overview of the violent siege.

The unsettling recreation of the Tulsa massacre helped set the tone for the "Watchmen" series, which has been described by creator Damon Lindelof ("Lost," "The Leftovers") as an ambitious "remix" of the celebrated 12-part comic series by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.

The original comic confronted the Cold War and the specter of nuclear annihilation. But the provocative new series, set 30 years after the events of the original, is expected to tackle racism and white supremacy, centering on an American-African woman (Regina King's Sister Night) living in an alternate — but painfully familiar — version of recent American history.

Opinion | "Watchmen" is one of the year’s most fascinating entertainment experiments​

Yes.......they have to keep going back and back to find actual racism since the only racism they can find are race hoaxes....because the only way to show how racist America is is to fake race incidents......

White Supremacy? Really.....all 6 of those guys must get tired of you guys calling them out......

America is the least racist country on the planet, with the most opportunity for all races, and sexes......and yet the asshats can't be happy.......

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Wallowing in black victimhood in general. This story is just an opportunity for the demagogues to dwell.

Well..I'll not deny that you have a point..as far as that goes. However, I see just as much wallowing in White victimhood--with a lot less reason.
The thing about playing the victim card, no matter who does it, is that it is a permission giver for all sorts of atrocious behavior.
Putting aside those who use this feeling of victinhood to advance their personal ambitions..most Blacks i know would like a formal acknowledgment of the abuses of the past. We did it for the Japanese internee of WWII--why not do it for the Black American of today. I'm not in favor of reparations..the idea is asinine. But a formal apology...seems the least we, as a nation, can do. It is the responsibility of those of color to stop their whining, as well--address legitimate concerns and understand that cultures change slowly..and replacing their past position in our culture with white people is not going to happen..we are not going to take 'our turn in the barrel'--live with it.

As for the whining of the white underclass about how they're being victimized..grow the fuck up....thank your lucky stars that you were not born with the same baggage as Black Americans..deal with whatever baggage you do have..and grow a thicker skin. Blaming others makes you weak. The only fairness that life gives us is the fairness we make.

Cowboy and cowgirl up..and stop whining.

So white privilege is a term to describe white victimhood? You’re delusional.

I said nothing of the sort..you're delusional....and unwilling to accept the truth of your obsession..too bad for you.

You complained about white victimhood but failed to reconcile white privilege. Can’t have both.

Perceived white victimhood--that is all it is....As for White privilege..it is just the way things are..it is how our society was structured...since the idea of white privilege was unabashedly believed by everyone for most of our Countries history--it was brought over from Europe..and is part of the cultural underpinnings of our country--it cannot be changed..it will just fade away as the demographic changes...people hang a lot on it...but for me it is a .."so what"..kind of thing. Water is wet..the sun is hot..and the dominant culture rigged the game in its favor--what else is new?

 

[2aguy]

That is nothing compared to the slaughter of Blacks among themselves in the Democrat controlled inner city shitholes of this country.

They estimate, at Wikipedia, that 100-300 people were killed.....meanwhile, today, as you pointed out....in democrat controlled cities....twice that many are killed every year....

Why don't the lefties in hollywood take on present day democrat party racism? Since it is killing hundreds of young black men every year and thousands of unborn black babies every year.......

 

[Godboy]

Obviously the best course of action would be to move the fuck on already and stop wallowing in it but nah

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Its mostly an unproven conspiracy theory. I laughed when i saw US warplanes bombing Tulsa in episode 1. Never happened and there is no proof that it did. Ive also seen plenty of sources with ridiculously inflated numbers of deaths.

Tulsa race riot - Wikipedia
Oklahoma Bombing: Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 - InfoBarrel

As far as I've been able to discover..you are right..no US airplanes bombed Tulsa..however..a number of privately owned planes did fire-bomb and strafe black citizens...this has been confirmed by numerous accounts. There is some debate as to whether or not high explosives were used, (nitroglycerin). As for the show's depiction of the event..it is fiction, after all, right?

Attack by air
"Numerous eyewitnesses described airplanes carrying white assailants, who fired rifles and dropped firebombs on buildings, homes, and fleeing families. The privately owned aircraft were dispatched from the nearby Curtiss-Southwest Field outside Tulsa.[45]

Law enforcement officials later said that the planes were to provide reconnaissance and protect against a "Negro uprising".[45] Law enforcement personnel were thought to be aboard at least some flights.[1][page needed] Eyewitness accounts, such as testimony from the survivors during Commission hearings and a manuscript by eyewitness and attorney Buck Colbert Franklin discovered in 2015, said that on the morning of June 1, at least "a dozen or more" planes circled the neighborhood and dropped "burning turpentine balls" on an office building, a hotel, a filling station, and multiple other buildings. Men also fired rifles at young and old black residents, gunning them down in the street.[45][7]

Richard S. Warner concluded in his submission to The Oklahoma Commission that contrary to later reports by claimed eyewitnesses of seeing explosions, there was no reliable evidence to support such attacks.[1]:107 Warner noted that while a number of newspapers targeted at black readers heavily reported the use of nitroglycerin, turpentine and rifles from the planes, many cited anonymous sources or second-hand accounts.[1]:107 Beryl Ford, one of the preeminent historians of the disaster, concluded from her large collection of photographs that there was no evidence of any building damaged by explosions.[1]:106 Danney Goble commended Warner on his efforts and supported his conclusions.[1]:6 State representative Don Ross (born in Tulsa in 1941), however, dissented from the evidence presented in the report concluding that bombs were in fact dropped from planes during the violence.[1]rologue;viii

William Joseph Simmons, Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, was appointed head of The Knights of the Air on May 20, 1921. The organization was described as a fraternal organization for former air force officers. A spokesperson for the organization publicly denounced the Ku Klux Klan and denied any connection.[46]"

Im just supposed to take the word of a few people who were angry over the incident? Show me proof that planes were used. If they were used, you would have had THOUSANDS of people reporting it.

In 1921..uh huh. If you are interested..do the research..but I have the feeling that the truth..is of no real interest to you....no matter. Does it even matter..your position is set in concrete.

Ive researched this event, and did so long before this Sunday. Ive heard 300 were killed, all the way down to 38 killed. People are inflating the numbers and also taking the ludicrous plane attack claim seriously.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Wallowing?? 99 out a hundred Americans never heard of the event...you call that wallowing? Or are you upset that it has been brought to light in a way that makes the fact that it happened a bit more known? Hell..I'd bet a C note that most of the 'yes' votes in the poll by Non-African Americans are lies.

But not to worry..we'll rant about it for a few days..and then it will be buried again.

Wallowing indeed.

Its mostly an unproven conspiracy theory. I laughed when i saw US warplanes bombing Tulsa in episode 1. Never happened and there is no proof that it did. Ive also seen plenty of sources with ridiculously inflated numbers of deaths.

Tulsa race riot - Wikipedia
Oklahoma Bombing: Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 - InfoBarrel

As far as I've been able to discover..you are right..no US airplanes bombed Tulsa..however..a number of privately owned planes did fire-bomb and strafe black citizens...this has been confirmed by numerous accounts. There is some debate as to whether or not high explosives were used, (nitroglycerin). As for the show's depiction of the event..it is fiction, after all, right?

Attack by air
"Numerous eyewitnesses described airplanes carrying white assailants, who fired rifles and dropped firebombs on buildings, homes, and fleeing families. The privately owned aircraft were dispatched from the nearby Curtiss-Southwest Field outside Tulsa.[45]

Law enforcement officials later said that the planes were to provide reconnaissance and protect against a "Negro uprising".[45] Law enforcement personnel were thought to be aboard at least some flights.[1][page needed] Eyewitness accounts, such as testimony from the survivors during Commission hearings and a manuscript by eyewitness and attorney Buck Colbert Franklin discovered in 2015, said that on the morning of June 1, at least "a dozen or more" planes circled the neighborhood and dropped "burning turpentine balls" on an office building, a hotel, a filling station, and multiple other buildings. Men also fired rifles at young and old black residents, gunning them down in the street.[45][7]

Richard S. Warner concluded in his submission to The Oklahoma Commission that contrary to later reports by claimed eyewitnesses of seeing explosions, there was no reliable evidence to support such attacks.[1]:107 Warner noted that while a number of newspapers targeted at black readers heavily reported the use of nitroglycerin, turpentine and rifles from the planes, many cited anonymous sources or second-hand accounts.[1]:107 Beryl Ford, one of the preeminent historians of the disaster, concluded from her large collection of photographs that there was no evidence of any building damaged by explosions.[1]:106 Danney Goble commended Warner on his efforts and supported his conclusions.[1]:6 State representative Don Ross (born in Tulsa in 1941), however, dissented from the evidence presented in the report concluding that bombs were in fact dropped from planes during the violence.[1]rologue;viii

William Joseph Simmons, Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, was appointed head of The Knights of the Air on May 20, 1921. The organization was described as a fraternal organization for former air force officers. A spokesperson for the organization publicly denounced the Ku Klux Klan and denied any connection.[46]"

Im just supposed to take the word of a few people who were angry over the incident? Show me proof that planes were used. If they were used, you would have had THOUSANDS of people reporting it.

In 1921..uh huh. If you are interested..do the research..but I have the feeling that the truth..is of no real interest to you....no matter. Does it even matter..your position is set in concrete.

Ive researched this event, and did so long before this Sunday. Ive heard 300 were killed, all the way down to 38 killed. People are inflating the numbers and also taking the ludicrous plane attack claim seriously.

The police themselves admitted that there were planes up there....they claimed that the aircraft were necessary for controlling the "negro uprising."
you have an opinion...and you have decided to discount the eyewitnesses. You mention a range of numbers as to killings..and decided that the numbers are inflated. That is just your opinion..the numbers could just as well have been under-reported--but that does not fit your obvious preconceptions.

History is a funny thing...often we can get whatever result we want from creative interpretation. In this case, the preponderance of evidence supports the plane narrative--and it is clear that a prosperous Black community was destroyed out nothing but envy..and racism. Many died...the exact number is not really all that important..as it is clear that the local law was on the side of the racist killers that destroyed the Black community. Thus..it is just as possible that they under-reported the numbers...as has happened in the past.

You see it otherwise..so be it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Take the claims of white atrocity against blacks with a wink. After all we know all about Mike Brown putting his hands up. Don't shoot. We know about Trayvon Martin being an innocent 12 year old.

 

[Preacher]

There are Twitter comments embedded in this new article which mention details I never new about the Tulsa "Race Riot" aside from the commentary about how classifying it as a race riot instead of an act of domestic terrorism makes it sound as if this was something caused by the blacks or that they brought upon themselves. I was confounded to read that the white mob looted the black banks and the insurance companies refused to cover their losses. They also mention the airborn acts via planes.

The facts of the Tulsa massacre appeared to have been unknown to many "Watchmen" viewers, who expressed their disbelief on social media.

Dajour Ashwood, Steven Norfleet and Alexis Louder in a scene from "Watchmen."Mark Hill / HBO

Oct. 21, 2019, 8:57 AM PDT

By Daniel Arkin

The premiere of HBO's "Watchmen" was packed with allusions to the dense mythology of the landmark 1980s graphic novel that inspired it, thrilling fans and newcomers alike. But a solemn nod to a real-world event appears to have left the greatest impression on viewers.

The pilot episode opened with a stylized, searing recreation of the Tulsa race massacre of 1921, a two-day explosion of violence in which white Oklahomans killed hundreds of African-Americans and burned businesses in a prosperous district known as "Black Wall Street." The bloody attack is considered "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history," according to the Oklahoma Historical Society.

The facts of the Tulsa massacre — bullets flying, buildings aflame — appeared to have been unknown to many "Watchmen" viewers who expressed their disbelief on social media. Some said they were appalled to first learn of the event through a superhero-themed television show, while others blamed the country's educational system for failing to highlight it in history curricula.

The attack, coming amid the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan and racial terror through much of the country, was not widely reported at the time. "News reports were largely squelched, despite the fact that hundreds of people were killed and thousands left homeless," History.com says in an overview of the violent siege.

The unsettling recreation of the Tulsa massacre helped set the tone for the "Watchmen" series, which has been described by creator Damon Lindelof ("Lost," "The Leftovers") as an ambitious "remix" of the celebrated 12-part comic series by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.

The original comic confronted the Cold War and the specter of nuclear annihilation. But the provocative new series, set 30 years after the events of the original, is expected to tackle racism and white supremacy, centering on an American-African woman (Regina King's Sister Night) living in an alternate — but painfully familiar — version of recent American history.

Opinion | "Watchmen" is one of the year’s most fascinating entertainment experiments​

The riot began over Memorial Day weekend after 19-year-old Dick Rowland, a black shoeshiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, the 17-year-old white elevator operator of the nearby Drexel Building. He was taken into custody. A subsequent gathering of angry local whites outside the courthouse where Rowland was being held, and the spread of rumors he had been lynched, alarmed the local black population, some of whom arrived at the courthouse armed. Shots were fired and twelve people were killed: ten white and two black.

So black criminal assaults white girl,then black criminals shoot into peaceful crowd of bystanders thus starting the riot. Eh sounds like the whites defended themselves against violent animals.

 

[hjmick]

There are Twitter comments embedded in this new article which mention details I never new about the Tulsa "Race Riot" aside from the commentary about how classifying it as a race riot instead of an act of domestic terrorism makes it sound as if this was something caused by the blacks or that they brought upon themselves. I was confounded to read that the white mob looted the black banks and the insurance companies refused to cover their losses. They also mention the airborn acts via planes.

The facts of the Tulsa massacre appeared to have been unknown to many "Watchmen" viewers, who expressed their disbelief on social media.

Dajour Ashwood, Steven Norfleet and Alexis Louder in a scene from "Watchmen."Mark Hill / HBO

Oct. 21, 2019, 8:57 AM PDT

By Daniel Arkin

The premiere of HBO's "Watchmen" was packed with allusions to the dense mythology of the landmark 1980s graphic novel that inspired it, thrilling fans and newcomers alike. But a solemn nod to a real-world event appears to have left the greatest impression on viewers.

The pilot episode opened with a stylized, searing recreation of the Tulsa race massacre of 1921, a two-day explosion of violence in which white Oklahomans killed hundreds of African-Americans and burned businesses in a prosperous district known as "Black Wall Street." The bloody attack is considered "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history," according to the Oklahoma Historical Society.

The facts of the Tulsa massacre — bullets flying, buildings aflame — appeared to have been unknown to many "Watchmen" viewers who expressed their disbelief on social media. Some said they were appalled to first learn of the event through a superhero-themed television show, while others blamed the country's educational system for failing to highlight it in history curricula.

The attack, coming amid the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan and racial terror through much of the country, was not widely reported at the time. "News reports were largely squelched, despite the fact that hundreds of people were killed and thousands left homeless," History.com says in an overview of the violent siege.

The unsettling recreation of the Tulsa massacre helped set the tone for the "Watchmen" series, which has been described by creator Damon Lindelof ("Lost," "The Leftovers") as an ambitious "remix" of the celebrated 12-part comic series by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.

The original comic confronted the Cold War and the specter of nuclear annihilation. But the provocative new series, set 30 years after the events of the original, is expected to tackle racism and white supremacy, centering on an American-African woman (Regina King's Sister Night) living in an alternate — but painfully familiar — version of recent American history.

Opinion | "Watchmen" is one of the year’s most fascinating entertainment experiments​

The riot began over Memorial Day weekend after 19-year-old Dick Rowland, a black shoeshiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, the 17-year-old white elevator operator of the nearby Drexel Building. He was taken into custody. A subsequent gathering of angry local whites outside the courthouse where Rowland was being held, and the spread of rumors he had been lynched, alarmed the local black population, some of whom arrived at the courthouse armed. Shots were fired and twelve people were killed: ten white and two black.

So black criminal assaults white girl,then black criminals shoot into peaceful crowd of bystanders thus starting the riot. Eh sounds like the whites defended themselves against violent animals.

There was/is no conclusive evidence of what happened in the elevator. The entire incident stemmed from rumors. In 1921 America, the guy could have sneezed and she would have screamed.

 

[Disir]

I don't think that there is a choice between acknowledging it occurred and the crime today.

This incident is not hidden by a long shot. They aren't intentionally kept out of history books. In fact, every 10-15 years someone kicks out a book or two on the same incident. It is one incident in a line of many.

You want to see racism...........wait till someone decides to start heavily investigating massacres in China towns and articles are written and it is finally shown in theaters.

Just kidding. Nobody is going to do that. They still aren't 'Merican enough.