Have you noticed....

[usmbguest5318]

The statement just above is the first time you've said anything remotely like not having heard anyone complain about their kids "experience" was in private school.

I made no claim that "they are everywhere." If you think I did, please point it out to me.

Did you not write this? Or are you merely a cut and paster who has no creativity of your own?

"On the other hand, one, I at least, rarely, if ever, sees folks griping about private schools, at least not while their kids are in the private school in question."

This implies that they are abundant, but only when their kids are out of school. I understand English. Do you?

You just go with that.....

That's the best you can come up with? You disappoint me. I thought you were an educated person, not some juvenile hack.

You go with that if it makes you feel better....After your statement two posts back, I realize there's just no point in my even trying to be politely indulgent and condescending myself to talk to you. That statement was so "loud, strong and wrong" and just plain stupid that I'm done. I'm sorry. I have more self respect than that, and not enough time. I don't even care to argue with you over it. I can't put you on ignore, but as you bore me, I can ignore you.

Nope. You can't ignore me. Yes, you are condescending.. progressives like you usually are. You are not polite. Your first interaction with me was an insult so you can disabuse yourself of that little bit of "indulgence" and yet again, you blather on but i wonder if you really understand what you're saying?

You two need to get back on topic.

Well, I can tell you that is not going to happen "we," as in he and I, are not going to engage in any conversation. He may, however, post.

 

[usmbguest5318]

You go with that if it makes you feel better....After your statement two posts back, I realize there's just no point in my even trying to be politely indulgent and condescending myself to talk to you. That statement was so "loud, strong and wrong" and just plain stupid that I'm done. I'm sorry. I have more self respect than that, and not enough time. I don't even care to argue with you over it. I can't put you on ignore, but as you bore me, I can ignore you.

... If you wish to ignore somebody, just ignore them rather than indulging in these petulant little passive-aggressive announcements that only reveal you to have no self control.

Truly, it's not cool to not know what you are talking about. You try putting him on ignore and let us know how it works out for you.....

BTW, the point of informing people that I've elected to ignore them is nothing more than my final courtesy to them. It's how they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they need not waste their time remarking to me for doing so will yield no reaction from me.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You go with that if it makes you feel better....After your statement two posts back, I realize there's just no point in my even trying to be politely indulgent and condescending myself to talk to you. That statement was so "loud, strong and wrong" and just plain stupid that I'm done. I'm sorry. I have more self respect than that, and not enough time. I don't even care to argue with you over it. I can't put you on ignore, but as you bore me, I can ignore you.

... If you wish to ignore somebody, just ignore them rather than indulging in these petulant little passive-aggressive announcements that only reveal you to have no self control.

Truly, it's not cool to not know what you are talking about. You try putting him on ignore and let us know how it works out for you.....

BTW, the point of informing people that I've elected to ignore them is nothing more than my final courtesy to them. It's how they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they need not waste their time remarking to me for doing so will yield no reaction from me.

Your announcing you are to ignore somebody is an act of childish petulance, and not courtesy. If you were sincere, you would simply do it, but your announcement if geared towards others reading it and not him.

When you continue to engage after making these petulant little announcements, all you indicate is that you are a person who lacks the integrity necessary to be good at your word.

 

[Papageorgio]

You go with that if it makes you feel better....After your statement two posts back, I realize there's just no point in my even trying to be politely indulgent and condescending myself to talk to you. That statement was so "loud, strong and wrong" and just plain stupid that I'm done. I'm sorry. I have more self respect than that, and not enough time. I don't even care to argue with you over it. I can't put you on ignore, but as you bore me, I can ignore you.

... If you wish to ignore somebody, just ignore them rather than indulging in these petulant little passive-aggressive announcements that only reveal you to have no self control.

Truly, it's not cool to not know what you are talking about. You try putting him on ignore and let us know how it works out for you.....

BTW, the point of informing people that I've elected to ignore them is nothing more than my final courtesy to them. It's how they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they need not waste their time remarking to me for doing so will yield no reaction from me.

They have no idea if they are on ignore. To me ignore is for the weak who can't support their arguments, IMHO.

 

[usmbguest5318]

They have no idea if they are on ignore.

Well, if they are slow on the uptake and don't figure it out by the fact they never get a reply/response, putting them on ignore was the right move.

 

[Papageorgio]

The public schools need to be overhauled, we need to breakaway for the old school mentality. We need to teach students life skills, balancing a budget, where and how to invest. When a home is an asset and when it is a liability. That challenging the status quo is not a bad thing. We seem to be stuck in teaching robots and not free thinkers.

 

[Papageorgio]

They have no idea if they are on ignore.

Well, if they are slow on the uptake and don't figure it out by the fact they never get a reply/response, putting them on ignore was the right move.

Don't need a response to get in a good jab, but its up to each individual, to me it is cowardly to be afraid of others opinions no matter how idiotic you may think they maybe.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

....that people are quick to ridicule public schools, public school systems, and just about anything else having to do with the state provision of K-12 education? On the other hand, one, I at least, rarely, if ever, sees folks griping about private schools, at least not while their kids are in the private school in question.

I have on occasion hear parents grumble about how a given private school really didn't educate their kid any better than would have the public school the child could have attended, but that seems to only happen after the kid gets to college and it then becomes apparent that the kid isn't nearly as well prepared as the parents would have expected or surmised based on the kid's performance at the private school.

That a rather strange phenomenon, IMO, because there are plenty of private schools that really aren't materially better than their neighboring public schools, yet one must necessarily pay for both schools if one sends one's child to private school. I'd think parents would pitch fits while their child is in school rather than wait until the kid finishes and then complain.

Ummmmm, that's because public schools basically suck while private schools don't. But that is a simple fact. Why do you think politicians pay lip service to public schools but send their kids to private schools? I'm paying for my girl to go to private school. Any sane person would.

Winning Through Creating Losers

Those who can afford private schools are the ones in power over the public schools. They purposely destroyed public education so that its graduates wouldn't be able to compete with their sons, who then only had to be mediocre in order to be superior.

Okay. I see now. It really doesn't matter what the topic is. You just want to post whatever it is that comes into your mind. Discursive integrity and topical relevance don't really matter to you, not if your series of replies to me in this line of discussion is any indication. That's fine. You can do that. I can't stop you. Bye.

A Thread Is Not a Tightrope

Daddy should buy you a message board where you always get your way and can limit a topic to whatever is strictly controlled by your own posts. But I do like your style when Sean Spicer does it.

 

[usmbguest5318]

They have no idea if they are on ignore.

Well, if they are slow on the uptake and don't figure it out by the fact they never get a reply/response, putting them on ignore was the right move.

Don't need a response to get in a good jab, but its up to each individual, to me it is cowardly to be afraid of others opinions no matter how idiotic you may think they maybe.

The opinion they hold isn't why I have anyone on ignore. It's the intransigence and imitive banality with which they choose to air it that bores me to the point that I determine it's just not encountering their remarks. I'll take the time to engage with someone/folks so long as they show themselves as substantive and possessed of discursive integrity. But if they don't, they can talk to someone else. It's for their own good. They and I are both happier and better off that way. They don't have to be made to look a fool and I don't have to waste my time pointing out how obvious it is that they are.

 

[Unkotare]

The public schools need to be overhauled, we need to breakaway for the old school mentality. We need to teach students life skills, balancing a budget, where and how to invest. When a home is an asset and when it is a liability. That challenging the status quo is not a bad thing. We seem to be stuck in teaching robots and not free thinkers.

I disagree. If anything, there is too much "how do you feeeeel about it?" and not enough nose-to-the-grindstone work.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You still haven't yet addressed the topic of the OP. Would you please respond directly to its theme?

when you look at the movers and shakers of this country the same school names keep popping up, over, and over, and over again

My very first post did. Every other post has been directed at parrying attacks from you, answering others questions and making other observations based on those responses. I hate to break it to ya but that is how conversations go.

Winning Through Intimidation

Xelor proves how narrow-minded and controlling the graduates of prep schools are.

 

[westwall]

They have no idea if they are on ignore.

Well, if they are slow on the uptake and don't figure it out by the fact they never get a reply/response, putting them on ignore was the right move.

Don't need a response to get in a good jab, but its up to each individual, to me it is cowardly to be afraid of others opinions no matter how idiotic you may think they maybe.

The opinion they hold isn't why I have anyone on ignore. It's the intransigence and imitive banality with which they choose to air it that bores me to the point that I determine it's just not encountering their remarks. I'll take the time to engage with someone/folks so long as they show themselves as substantive and possessed of discursive integrity. But if they don't, they can talk to someone else. It's for their own good. They and I are both happier and better off that way. They don't have to be made to look a fool and I don't have to waste my time pointing out how obvious it is that they are.

"It's for their own good." A more arrogant, or pompous statement I have not seen here for quite a while. So tell us 320, why did you change your name?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You still haven't yet addressed the topic of the OP. Would you please respond directly to its theme?

when you look at the movers and shakers of this country the same school names keep popping up, over, and over, and over again

My very first post did. Every other post has been directed at parrying attacks from you, answering others questions and making other observations based on those responses. I hate to break it to ya but that is how conversations go.

Winning Through Intimidation

Xelor proves how narrow-minded and controlling the graduates of prep schools are.

He sounds like a sophomore with a thesaurus to me.

Not only is the notion that brevity is the soul of wit lost on the boy, but so is the flow of language, itself. When words stick out as a sore thumb chosen as they are simply to try to impress, they actually have the opposite effect of the one he is intending.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

"It's for their own good." A more arrogant, or pompous statement I have not seen here for quite a while. So tell us 320, why did you change your name?

One of his I remember well from his 320 days was in the CDF as well, and he indulged in his usual, long word vomit trying to establish that leftists such as himself are intelligent and conservatives aren't.

I got a chuckle out of it because once you got past the self-aggrandizing excess of words, the binary he presented amounted to little more than an exercise in Cowboys and Indians. It was simplistic, it lacked even a hint of originality and it was obvious that he is just as insecure as we are seeing in this thread.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

....that people are quick to ridicule public schools, public school systems, and just about anything else having to do with the state provision of K-12 education? On the other hand, one, I at least, rarely, if ever, sees folks griping about private schools, at least not while their kids are in the private school in question.

I have on occasion hear parents grumble about how a given private school really didn't educate their kid any better than would have the public school the child could have attended, but that seems to only happen after the kid gets to college and it then becomes apparent that the kid isn't nearly as well prepared as the parents would have expected or surmised based on the kid's performance at the private school.

That a rather strange phenomenon, IMO, because there are plenty of private schools that really aren't materially better than their neighboring public schools, yet one must necessarily pay for both schools if one sends one's child to private school. I'd think parents would pitch fits while their child is in school rather than wait until the kid finishes and then complain.

Three kids from private school here. One Chemistry and two Math degrees. Did you have a valid point or just trolling?

Do you regularly bash public schools?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Stupid parents produce stupid children.

It's the raw material that is as much a problem as the schools. When the majority of kids are stupid and teachers teach to the common denominator, it guarantees that any kid who is at all bright will be bored out of their mind.

Yeah, they are all bored out of their mind. That's why we have AP, Honors, and special education collaboration classes for just about every subject.

In fact, I teach three different levels. There are no bored kids, just a large number of lazy ones.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Private schools are usually non-union. End of discussion.

If a private school teacher does not "produce" s/he is gone. If a public school teacher sucks, s/he will continue to infect the school system like a long-living social disease, until the public is forced to pay for a generous and lengthy retirement.

This factor CANNOT be overlooked, as it is a MAJOR difference between public and private schools.

Why don't you grow up? You continue to repeat this lie in thread after thread.

Why are so you pissed off? Did your spouse run off with a public school teacher and you couldn't compete in the sack?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

....that people are quick to ridicule public schools, public school systems, and just about anything else having to do with the state provision of K-12 education? On the other hand, one, I at least, rarely, if ever, sees folks griping about private schools, at least not while their kids are in the private school in question.

I have on occasion hear parents grumble about how a given private school really didn't educate their kid any better than would have the public school the child could have attended, but that seems to only happen after the kid gets to college and it then becomes apparent that the kid isn't nearly as well prepared as the parents would have expected or surmised based on the kid's performance at the private school.

That a rather strange phenomenon, IMO, because there are plenty of private schools that really aren't materially better than their neighboring public schools, yet one must necessarily pay for both schools if one sends one's child to private school. I'd think parents would pitch fits while their child is in school rather than wait until the kid finishes and then complain.

Ummmmm, that's because public schools basically suck while private schools don't. But that is a simple fact. Why do you think politicians pay lip service to public schools but send their kids to private schools? I'm paying for my girl to go to private school. Any sane person would.

Wow! Can you be any more wrong? Your generalizations are inane, lacking in facts and just plain wrong.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

....that people are quick to ridicule public schools, public school systems, and just about anything else having to do with the state provision of K-12 education? On the other hand, one, I at least, rarely, if ever, sees folks griping about private schools, at least not while their kids are in the private school in question.

I have on occasion hear parents grumble about how a given private school really didn't educate their kid any better than would have the public school the child could have attended, but that seems to only happen after the kid gets to college and it then becomes apparent that the kid isn't nearly as well prepared as the parents would have expected or surmised based on the kid's performance at the private school.

That's a rather strange phenomenon, IMO, because there are plenty of private schools that really aren't materially better than their neighboring public schools, yet one must necessarily pay for both schools if one sends one's child to private school. I'd think parents would pitch fits while their child is in school rather than wait until the kid finishes and then complain.

Three kids from private school here. One Chemistry and two Math degrees. Did you have a valid point or just trolling?

See emboldened text above. In those statements/clauses, you'll find the point of the OP.

Do you not recognize one's sharing an observation when you see it? Seemingly not....

Three kids from private school here. One Chemistry and two Math degrees.

Have you in mind a baccalaureate or graduate educational program? Or perhaps a high school program from a non-U.S. nation? I'm asking because you wrote "degree" and in the U.S., that term refers to one's achievement at college/university, not in K-12, which is the context noted expressly in the OP.

Also, am I talking to three people using one USMB ID, or are you not three people; thus you mean something other than what you actually wrote?

My three kids went to college and earned the degrees listed. Hope that helps. The reason I mentioned them is it speaks to what a K-12 education can do for you in life.

I have three kids also. One attended junior college but chose to be a mother, but will soon return for a business degree. Another is attending college in computer engineering. The youngest just graduated with a BS in Biology and serves as an Army officer. They all attended public schools K-12 in several different states..

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I didn't create this thread with the aim that it morph into a public vs. private school debate, yet that appears to be the nature of what people want to talk about. I don't know why for the behavior I described is that of parents in response to discovering the private school to which they sent their child isn't as great as it was purported to have been or as they perceived/expected it to be. Additionally, the questions I've asked in the OP have to do with the timing of parents' griping about the schools their kids attend; the temporal theme is found in all three paragraphs of the OP. How does one miss that? ....Yet people would become temerariously pissed at me were I to ridicule their reading comprehension skills....

The central theme is that people "bitch and moan" about private schools after the kid graduates, whereas they do so about public schools before their kids attend, and presumably after their kids graduate. Some people likely deride public schools when they don't even have kids or haven't recently had any who were in a K-12 school.

I didn't introduce the matter of whether or to what extent public schools are better or worse than private schools. I'm sure that topic has been amply covered in the Education sub-forum of USMB. It doesn't even make sense to me that is the line of discussion onto which people have lurched given what I did write in the OP, and yet here we are with you, a moderator, having failed to adhere to the theme/topic introduced in the thread's OP. (Expand the quote below to see what is the theme of the OP; I've emboldened the sentences that contain it.)

....that people are quick to ridicule public schools, public school systems, and just about anything else having to do with the state provision of K-12 education? On the other hand, one, I at least, rarely, if ever, see folks griping about private schools, at least not while their kids are in the private school in question.

I have on occasion hear parents grumble about how a given private school really didn't educate their kid any better than would have the public school the child could have attended, but that seems to only happen after the kid gets to college and it then becomes apparent that the kid isn't nearly as well prepared as the parents would have expected or surmised based on the kid's performance at the private school.

That's a rather strange phenomenon, IMO, because there are plenty of private schools that really aren't materially better than their neighboring public schools, yet one must necessarily pay for both schools if one sends one's child to private school. I'd think parents would pitch fits while their child is in school rather than wait until the kid finishes and then complain.

It would really do you some good to do your own research. Maybe then you'd know what you are talking about, or you'd at least be able to express what you mean (as compared to what you wrote) in a way that aligns with reality. Read on to see why I say that.

Ummmmm, that's because public schools basically suck while private schools don't. But that is a simple fact. Why do you think politicians pay lip service to public schools but send their kids to private schools? I'm paying for my girl to go to private school. Any sane person would.

On what are you basing that claim? Surely it's not a claim resulting from your analysis of the public and private schools in Nevada? Perhaps you're sending her to a school outside of Nevada?

• Public High Schools in Nevada
• Private High Schools in Nevada

Based on the information found at the two links above, NV has several public schools that are at least as good, if not better, than the private schools there. (Your ID shows you as being in NV, so that's why I focused on NV. Is the location indicator on your ID a mistake?) Perhaps you have some other metric/dimension that gives credence to your claim?

Have you made the claim above (in whole or part) to interject a deflection into the discussion? It seems so given the theme of the central question the OP asks is why people don't complain about private schools before it's too late and there's ample indication that the nation has lots of very good public schools. Moreover, it appears that most students at the nation's top universities graduated from public schools:

• Harvard -- 63% public school grads
• Yale -- 68% public school grads
• Williams College -- 58% public school grads
• MIT -- 67% public school grads
• About half of the students at Ivy League colleges and universities come from public schools.

Note:
Interestingly, I could not find the same metrics for the four public colleges for which I sought it -- UC Berkeley, UVA, Univ. of Michigan Ann Arbor, and Univ. of Connecticut. Do state colleges/universities not track that data point? I don't know. I would think they must....Maybe it's "out there" and I didn't dig deeply enough to find it?
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The claim that "public schools suck" seems highly inaccurate given that roughly a 2/3rds majority of students at four of the nation's top universities/colleges graduated from public high schools.

Additional info that suggests public schools don't "suck." I realize some are good and some are not, but that's so too of private schools. Merely being a private school doesn't make a school be good.

• Confessions Of A Six-Figure Father: Why I'd Never Send My Kids To Private School

Why do you think politicians pay lip service to public schools but send their kids to private schools?

You would need to ask the politicians who you think have paid "lip service" to public schools. I can't speak for them.

Of course there are politicians who send their kids to private school and politicians who send their kids to public school. Merely claiming, as you did, that politicians "send their kids to private schools" carries about the same intellectual and discursive value as saying "mammals swim."

I can find information about where schools federal level politicians send their kids to school. I cannot find similar information about state and local level politicians. With the exception of Jimmy Carter (He later sent her to Holton Arms), I believe modern Presidents have sent their kids to private schools, but were talking about a very small number of people when we consider the matter of where Presidents send their kids. Among members of the U.S. Congress, 41% of representatives in the House and 46% of U.S. senators send or have sent at least one of their children to a private institution.

Yes, a high proportion of elected officials do send their kids to private schools. In D.C. I sort of get why they do, at least for high school. D.C. public high schools are average at best, even the one in the "posh" part of town. But that's not necessarily the case at all public schools. Indeed, there are several nationally ranked ones in the D.C. 'burbs and there's not much reason to send a child to private school if going to one of those schools is also an option.

For public officials, as with other celebrities and their kids, there is also the security and privacy factors that are important. People don't want their kids at a school where the press and fans/na'er do wells have easy access/visibility to their kids. Look at the Sidwell campus vs. the St. Albans campus, which is right next door. They are equally good schools, but St. Albans sits in a sort of bowl-shaped parcel of land poised on a slope just below the highest crest in the city that allows people from the street fairly unfettered visibility to the kids when they are outside. You can sort of get a sense of that from this photo if you look at the top left corner. (You can sort of tell from the Google map too.)

In contrast, Sidwell, sits on top of the very same crest. From the street, all one sees is the front lawn.

This, however, is the actual campus. As you can tell, the buildings themselves restrict visibility, to say nothing of their being nestled behind the landscape so even they aren't all that visible.

One can from the back of one side of the campus -- where the sports fields are -- see onto the fields, but the kids aren't on that part of the campus except for sports events and practices. (Click your way around the block to see what you passers by see. Not much is what folks see.) One also cannot see into the classrooms.

In light of the security considerations that public figures and celebs face that the rest of us do not have to deal with in quite the same way, private schools seem like they offer a higher degree of safety. Their campuses are more secluded usually and the smaller size of the student body also helps with that. Also, being private, there is far less cause for unknowns to even show up at or linger around the facility. I know those seem like "small things," but in the scheme of providing a secure environment for the kids of the rich and powerful, it matters.

Among people in general, when looking at public or private schools, the following factors come into play when parents choose one or the other:

• Academic reputation and college preparation -- for choosing for my kids, this was important
• School size and Class size -- this was most important
• Safety reputation -- this is always important, but I wasn't concerned about their safety in the way a celeb/politician would be
• Special programs -- this turned out to be important, but when I was deciding, it didn't play a big role
• Costs
• Religious and Moral instruction -- ethics, yes; religiously based morality, no
• Location -- this held some appeal, but wasn't a driving factor
• Ideology -- this was important

Ultimately, the decision to send a child to private school is one of personal choice for huge quantities of people (in large part because the majority of the U.S. population lives in urban/suburban areas more so than existential need, and invariably there're good public schools in every "metro" area. With magnet and charter schools making it possible for high achieving students to attend a good school even if the one serving their neighborhood isn't, having to send one's child to a private school isn't generally a necessity, though I realize there are exceptions. Exceptions, however, are just that, exceptions.

My own circumstance growing up is one such exception. I was sent to private schools because "it's where one went" as far as both sides of my family was concerned, and my parents are very WASPy, so there was that too. My family also lived in a city that didn't have high quality public schools.

People are, of course, free to send their kids to public or private schools for myriad reasons. Some of those reasons are supported by objective facts that give credence to them as reasons. Others, not so much. I sent my kids to private schools, but I could have, for vastly less money than the cost of 12 years of tuition for four kids, simply moved across the river (or into MD) and had a perfectly fine public school for my kids to attend. My kids might have gone to one of these schools had we bought a house in the corresponding neighborhoods instead of in D.C., but we didn't. We bought in D.C. more or less "across the street" from the school my kids attended until I started having to be on the road most of year.

• Virginia
  • http://www.usnews.com/education/bes...-high-school-for-science-and-technology-20461
  • http://www.usnews.com/education/bes...ounty-public-schools/mclean-high-school-20452
    
  • http://www.usnews.com/education/bes...rfax-county-public-schools/langley-high-20448
• Maryland
  • http://www.usnews.com/education/bes...-county-public-schools/walt-whitman-high-9150
  • http://www.usnews.com/education/bes...ty-public-schools/winston-churchill-high-9153
  • http://www.usnews.com/education/bes...ounty-public-schools/walter-johnson-high-9151

I sent my kids to boarding school because I traveled a lot for work and was rarely able to be at home. But for my traveling, I would have left them at that school for all of their K-12 years. (I'd have been fine sending them to the boarding school in my neighborhood, but they didn't have a boarding spot available when I needed them to have four. They could have gone as day-hops.) I also wanted my kids to be in a rural setting, but that was not a first line priority. Lastly, I thought it best that they grew up among kids who are like them -- smart, motivated, curious, outgoing/assertive, and fortunate -- and where those qualities are encouraged and built upon.

I'm paying for my girl to go to private school. Any sane person would.

[Some of the comments in the preceding "section" pertain to the emboldened comment above.]

I don't see that as being a legitimate claim unless (1) there is a special circumstance(s) that augurs for doing so, or (2) you've opted to send your daughter to a "pipeline" (TSAO and very similar) school. Those schools send an inordinate quantity of their grads to elite colleges and universities. There are a variety of reasons for that. Certainly one of them is the child's scholastic performance. Another reason has to do with parents of those children being "legacies" not only at the high schools from which their kids graduated -- I'm a "legacy" alum, as are my sons, from my own high school -- at the colleges and universities to which they send their kids. Then, of course, there's the matter of the kids who went to those schools often enough being from families wealthy enough to, if need be and the parents are willing to do so, "donate" their kid's way into the school (not a lot of kids for whom that happens, but it happens).

Public Schools vary greatly in quality. The dilapidated state of too many urban and rural schools in the United States is a well-chronicled tragedy, and a large number of suburban public high schools offer many of the amenities of a private school as well as a lineup of strongly credentialed, dedicated instructors. Opportunities abound for the motivated and talented attending public schools. AP courses are typically plentiful and public schools actually offer more opportunities for International Baccalaureate (IB) and dual-enrollment courses. (You'll have to do your own "clicking" to see the details and course offerings pertaining to individual schools from that list.)

One may also gain an edge by being a big fish in a small pond, or if one prefers a less overused analogy, a gargantuan begonia in a miniature greenhouse. Moreover, it seems that attending a school surrounded by fellow academic superstars actually has a negative effect on your admissions chances at an elite college. (See also: Getting Into an Elite College Is Easier Than You Think) In other words, a student with a 1300 SAT at a public high school where the average SAT is 1000 will have an admissions edge over an equal student at a private school where 1300 is the average SAT score.

Holistically looking at the matter, literally millions of parents have lots of "sane" reasons for not sending their kids to private school.

Before you try and lecture someone about "doing their research" maybe you should do your own. My wife is an educator at the university level, THEY send their kids to private schools. The public schools in Nevada are a catastrophe. Billions of dollars have been spent, and the outcomes are WORSE.

Nevada falls to last on education ranking


After years of floundering near the bottom in a widely watched report card for state education systems, Nevada has sunk to dead last.

For the first time, the Silver State fell behind all other states and Washington, D.C., in the annual Quality Counts report, which assigns overall scores to states based on student performance, school financing and other qualities of K-12 public schools.

“It’s honestly disheartening,” said Nevada interim Superintendent Steve Canavero on Wednesday before the results were publicly released.

The report also looks beyond schools, considering factors like parents’ education levels, income and language abilities to determine children’s “chance for success” in each state. There, Nevada has ranked lowest for seven years, its children less likely to succeed than those in any other state, according to the report.

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Want to bet that Nevada has a high number of both legal and illegal students from south of the border who struggle due to the fact they don't speak English very well or at all?