Has "It's the Culture, Stupid" replaced "It's the Economy, Stupid"?

[Harry Dresden]

Here's a hint. IP 56.41.129.11

why dont you just tell me you aint no letter carrier....

 

[postman]

The problem is you want to use the brothels and the drugs as a PRETEXT to stop immigration.

Otherwise, I doubt you'd give a shit about them.

Plus it's not just illegals that are being taken advantage of. Domestic runaways, homeless and abandoned and poor girls form the bulk of minors in sex traficking.

Exploring the impact of underage sex work among female sex workers in two Mexico-U.S. border cities

Although sex work and younger age increase HIV vulnerability, empirical data regarding the impacts of underage sex work are lacking. We explored associations between features of the risk environment, sex work and drug use history, and underage sex work ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[postman]

Is there something about the phrase “we can do both” that translates do a different meaning in Liberish?

Because Americans don't want to pay for both.

 

[postman]

why dont you just tell me you aint no letter carrier....

You can look it up on any ACE computer.

 

[Curried Goats]

You are soft. You let your feelings control your every thought and are incapable of separating feelings from fact and common sense.

Your intellect is soft which is why you'll never present these facts that I'm not getting right.

 

[JoeB131]

Its better than overlooking brothels and drugs because you want to flood the country with illegal migrants

I;m all for processing them legally. But that means following our own law.

We can start with all those backlogs of asylum seekers.

Mrs. B131 has been waiting 7 years for her hearing.

 

[Mac-7]

Because Americans don't want to pay for both.

You dont know Americans

Or at least not MAGAs

Libs spend enough on food, clothing, hotel accommodations, free healthcare and education on unwanted and unneeded migrants to fund the war on drugs at border crossings

But unfortunately many libs are using the illegal drugs and do not want the supply reduced or stopped

It takes an anti drug president, which we dont have at this time

 

[Mac-7]

We can start with all those backlogs of asylum seekers.

They should be returned to mexico while their case is being reviewed

That would reduce the number of applicants dramatically

 

[Harry Dresden]

You can look it up on any ACE computer.

sorry your ip address doesnt answer my question does it?.....change your name it doesnt fit....

 

[JoeB131]

They should be returned to mexico while their case is being reviewed

That would reduce the number of applicants dramatically

except that's not what our law says.

Our law says they are allowed to stay until their cases are heard.

Period.

Full fucking stop.

There's no reason why Mexico should be forced to babysit our asylum seekers.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Fareed Zakaria has a new book out that proposes a fundamental change in Americans' priorities, and (I don't know if he meant to do this) also goes a long way in explaining the rise and staying power of the MAGA movement.

In short, he believes that the cultural issues -- particularly (a) immigration/the border and (b) gender, are now more primary political movers than the economy used to be.

He also uses a very important term to describe this: "Backlash". I couldn't agree more, and I think it's key. I spent my first few years on this board concentrating on the tactics of the Left and how they'd create a -- wait for it -- backlash, and sure as hell, here we are.

I hadn't really thought about how the cultural issues have replaced the economy as #1, but I think he may be right.

Yes, politics is pretty much all single-issue politics nowadays. (AKA identity politics.) This is why humans don't make good commies, like ants or bees. We put our ego and greed first; whereas ants or bees are selfless and put the good of the community first. Humans can't be selfless. For instance, I'd never vote to confiscate my guns and make myself a felon. I'd never vote to turn America into Mehico. Likewise, dems would never vote to ban abortion. It is all special interest voting nowadays. Socialists would never vote to not progress socialism.

Transqueers, which vote as a dem bloc 98% of the time, would never vote against their love for the trans life. Transqueers want to promote their lifestyle. Drug addicts want free and legal drugs and would never vote rep. Look at homosexuals, which vote dem as a block 90%+ of the time; they would never vote against their queerness. They put queerness above all, the same way I put guns and borders above all. Blacks, who vote dem 92% of the time, would never vote against reparations, handouts and a race based 'get out of jail for free' card. And on and on it goes, bub.

Even if starving I'd never vote to confiscate my guns, so I vote rep. But as a political party, the reps are useless garbage. All I expect from them is to leave the guns alone. And if by chance they fail at that...I won't vote any longer. The reason politics was not like this in the past was the parties were not that far apart. Plus, America had a different demographic. America was more conservative. Conservative views are looked at as being a Nazi by the young people nowadays. The young hate religion, god/s and conservative values. In 2023, the D & R parties are black and white, polar opposites.

Politics has gotten so extreme that it may mean life or death for many people depending on if a D or R gets in. So they are putting their very survival invested in how they vote.

America only worked when it worked. When the majority of the people were not mentally ill and could be depended on living by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. When America made things and was not just a pimp for China. Every election in America seems like America's very survival rests on the outcome. You can't run a country like that. Sooner or later, you will lose an election. Nor should a healthy country be knocking on the door of implosion every other week. Idiot reps learned a little too late that banning abortion, lowering taxes for the rich and trying to make it harder for blacks to vote is not going to do much to save America.

Barring Yellowstone erupting or Putin sending us a present, these are our choices:

1) Do nothing...live as tax slaves under perpetual dem rule and be disarmed.

2) Civil War - formal secession. Form the America First Union / Conservative States of America Union / Conservative Union...or whatever you want to call it. Dems will wipe you out with the military...which they own.

3) Informal Secession - Still form the America First Union / Conservative States of America Union / Conservative Union...or whatever you want to call it. Then disregarded Federal law as the dems have done for ages.

4) Vote dem and accelerate the collapse - may make for an easier 'peaceful' divorce. And if there is a hot civil war, dems will send in the military and wipe reps out. Reps have zero organization or $ to fight any war.

And beside all this...

Peak Oil will destroy America irrespective of D or R. That is the score, bub. Prepare accordingly.

 

[martybegan]

except that's not what our law says.

Our law says they are allowed to stay until their cases are heard.

Period.

Full fucking stop.

There's no reason why Mexico should be forced to babysit our asylum seekers.

The thing is the vast majority of them are not really asylum seekers, they are illegal economic migrants being told to claim asylum to gum up the works.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Fareed Zakaria has a new book out that proposes a fundamental change in Americans' priorities, and (I don't know if he meant to do this) also goes a long way in explaining the rise and staying power of the MAGA movement.

In short, he believes that the cultural issues -- particularly (a) immigration/the border and (b) gender, are now more primary political movers than the economy used to be.

He also uses a very important term to describe this: "Backlash". I couldn't agree more, and I think it's key. I spent my first few years on this board concentrating on the tactics of the Left and how they'd create a -- wait for it -- backlash, and sure as hell, here we are.

I hadn't really thought about how the cultural issues have replaced the economy as #1, but I think he may be right.

Oh course it has, as it it has many times before. This is part of how the Republicans fool up to half the country into voting against their own economic self interests.

In 1980 it was Reagan scaring all the crackers with talk of welfare queens.

For H W Bush, it was constant fear porn about black men and crime.

In 1992, it was fear of the gays.

In 2016, a tranny was a keynote speaker at the RNC. But they need a 2024 win and have no platform, so now it's fear porn about trannies.

 

[martybegan]

Oh course it has, as it it has many times before. This is part of how the Republicans fool up to half the country into voting against their own economic self interest.

In 1980 it was Reagan scaring all the crackers with talk of welfare queens.

How is unfettered illegal immigration in the economic self interest of working Americans?

 

[LeroyDumonde]

No Mac. What you're really trying to say is that people who care about these issues shouldn't fight for them because they upset bigots and racists. Maybe that matters to a soft ass moderate like you but I'm happy to have that fight with them. Bigots and racists should be beaten to a pulp until they get the message that their kind isn't wanted or appreciated.

Commies sure are a violent lot.

 

[JoeB131]

The thing is the vast majority of them are not really asylum seekers, they are illegal economic migrants being told to claim asylum to gum up the works.

That sounds like a good reason to appoint enough case workers to sort through it, then.

The problem is, if you did that, millions would still get asylum.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Since when is the leftist dem sanctioned invasion by millions of illegals considered a "cultural issue"?

I don't have a problem with hispanic culture (better than black culture) I just have a problem with them being here at all uninvited.

Mass immigration, even when done legally, is a social evil.

 

[JoeB131]

How is unfettered illegal immigration in the economic self interest of working Americans?

because they produce demand that creates jobs.

 

[postman]

sorry your ip address doesnt answer my question does it?.....change your name it doesnt fit....

I'm sorry you can't look it up on your Mobile Delivery Device.

 

[martybegan]

That sounds like a good reason to appoint enough case workers to sort through it, then.

The problem is, if you did that, millions would still get asylum.

Not even close.