Harvard Loses to Inmates in Debates

[JimBowie1958]

Harvard's prestigious debate team loses to NY inmates

"It took place at the Eastern New York Correctional Facility, a maximum-security prison in Napanoch. The Ivy League undergrads were invited last month to debate the inmates who take in-prison courses taught by Bard College faculty.

"Harvard's team won the national title this year and the world championship in 2014.

"But the inmates are building a reputation, too. The club has notched victories against teams from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and the University of Vermont.

"Against Harvard, the inmates were tasked with defending the position that public schools should be allowed to turn away students whose parents came to the U.S. illegally. Harvard's team responded, but a panel of neutral judges declared the inmates victorious."

All the PC Nazi promotions based on what group you are in and dismissing 'insensitive' people has left our elite universities no longer filled with our best and brightest any more, and this is reflected in our national leadership as well.

 

[Roudy]

The inmates clearly had an easier position to defend. That's why they won.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

"Neutral judges"

 

[koshergrl]

Hahahaha

 

[Judicial review]

Send me in there I'd beat them all.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Oh so jails are flooded with fucking capable citizens?!

LEGALIZE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Oh so jails are flooded with fucking capable citizens?!

LEGALIZE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

Go ahead. Then the criminals will just create another illegal market. You treat drug possession and dealing like guns.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Oh so jails are flooded with fucking capable citizens?!

LEGALIZE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

Go ahead. Then the criminals will just create another illegal market. You treat drug possession and dealing like guns.

The illegal gun market is already thriving in this country. We are flooded with guns more than any country in the world! Wtf point are you trying to make?!

 

[frigidweirdo]

Harvard's prestigious debate team loses to NY inmates

"It took place at the Eastern New York Correctional Facility, a maximum-security prison in Napanoch. The Ivy League undergrads were invited last month to debate the inmates who take in-prison courses taught by Bard College faculty.

"Harvard's team won the national title this year and the world championship in 2014.

"But the inmates are building a reputation, too. The club has notched victories against teams from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and the University of Vermont.

"Against Harvard, the inmates were tasked with defending the position that public schools should be allowed to turn away students whose parents came to the U.S. illegally. Harvard's team responded, but a panel of neutral judges declared the inmates victorious."

All the PC Nazi promotions based on what group you are in and dismissing 'insensitive' people has left our elite universities no longer filled with our best and brightest any more, and this is reflected in our national leadership as well.

You're making the claim that an undergraduate is supposed to be more intelligent than a prison inmate? Why?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Oh so jails are flooded with fucking capable citizens?!

LEGALIZE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

Go ahead. Then the criminals will just create another illegal market. You treat drug possession and dealing like guns.

The illegal gun market is already thriving in this country. We are flooded with guns more than any country in the world! Wtf point are you trying to make?!

You blame the item instead of the criminal. Blaming drug laws for incarceration is like blaming the gun for the shooting.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Oh so jails are flooded with fucking capable citizens?!

LEGALIZE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

Go ahead. Then the criminals will just create another illegal market. You treat drug possession and dealing like guns.

The illegal gun market is already thriving in this country. We are flooded with guns more than any country in the world! Wtf point are you trying to make?!

You blame the item instead of the criminal. Blaming drug laws for incarceration is like blaming the gun for the shooting.

Oh so you are in favor for legalizing the drug?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

This is interesting.

I wonder if the inmates could get into Harvard ?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Oh so jails are flooded with fucking capable citizens?!

LEGALIZE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

Go ahead. Then the criminals will just create another illegal market. You treat drug possession and dealing like guns.

The illegal gun market is already thriving in this country. We are flooded with guns more than any country in the world! Wtf point are you trying to make?!

You blame the item instead of the criminal. Blaming drug laws for incarceration is like blaming the gun for the shooting.

Oh so you are in favor for legalizing the drug?

In theory, I'm in favor of legalizing drugs with the condition that any resulting behavior that confronts others warrants severe punishment. But that won't happen so it may be more practical to keep them underground.
Once legalized, they would just be replaced by another contraband the same way drugs supplanted alcohol when prohibition ended.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Harvard's prestigious debate team loses to NY inmates

"It took place at the Eastern New York Correctional Facility, a maximum-security prison in Napanoch. The Ivy League undergrads were invited last month to debate the inmates who take in-prison courses taught by Bard College faculty.

"Harvard's team won the national title this year and the world championship in 2014.

"But the inmates are building a reputation, too. The club has notched victories against teams from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and the University of Vermont.

"Against Harvard, the inmates were tasked with defending the position that public schools should be allowed to turn away students whose parents came to the U.S. illegally. Harvard's team responded, but a panel of neutral judges declared the inmates victorious."

All the PC Nazi promotions based on what group you are in and dismissing 'insensitive' people has left our elite universities no longer filled with our best and brightest any more, and this is reflected in our national leadership as well.

seems like a bit of a set up since the school should actually contact the authorities and have the parents arrested.

so turning away students is just a softball subject, since saying the schools should take the kids in would be illegal.

 

[charwin95]

Only logical way I can think how this happened is these inmates had a professional career before incarceration. Like lawyer ( which I put one myself for embezzlement) teachers, professor, engineers, police officer or even doctors etc.. That had knowledge or have time to study the subject before the debate.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You're making the claim that an undergraduate is supposed to be more intelligent than a prison inmate? Why?

Harvard is supposed to be the best of the best, World Champion debate masters. Them getting beaten by a prison team is like a walk in beating the international chess champion in a best of eleven match.

This victory clearly proves that our colleges are no longer interested in the best of the best any more, only those who are will to let their minds be molded by atheists, socialists and hedonists without complaint.

Such things are a bad sign for a nation when its supposedly best and brightest gets beat in a debate by a bunch of amateurs without competitive experience.

But I guess you cant understand that since it is something negative about America under Obamy. Had it happened while Bush was Presdient, of course, you would be saying that was his fault too, lol.

 

[Blackrook]

The inmates were older, wiser, and had nothing to do but practice for the debate. Also, they had a better side of the argument.

It would have been better to make the Harvard team take the opposite side. Then they'd have to think outside the liberal box they're stuck in.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Harvard's prestigious debate team loses to NY inmates

"It took place at the Eastern New York Correctional Facility, a maximum-security prison in Napanoch. The Ivy League undergrads were invited last month to debate the inmates who take in-prison courses taught by Bard College faculty.

"Harvard's team won the national title this year and the world championship in 2014.

"But the inmates are building a reputation, too. The club has notched victories against teams from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and the University of Vermont.

"Against Harvard, the inmates were tasked with defending the position that public schools should be allowed to turn away students whose parents came to the U.S. illegally. Harvard's team responded, but a panel of neutral judges declared the inmates victorious."

All the PC Nazi promotions based on what group you are in and dismissing 'insensitive' people has left our elite universities no longer filled with our best and brightest any more, and this is reflected in our national leadership as well.

seems like a bit of a set up since the school should actually contact the authorities and have the parents arrested.

so turning away students is just a softball subject, since saying the schools should take the kids in would be illegal.

Can you try to convey your thoughts again? None of that made any sense to me. I was talking about how a team of prisoners embarrassed the top debate teams of the world, and that demonstrates that we are no longer taking the best of the best for college students any more.

What you responded with seems completely unrelated to my post.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The inmates were older, wiser, and had nothing to do but practice for the debate. Also, they had a better side of the argument.

It would have been better to make the Harvard team take the opposite side. Then they'd have to think outside the liberal box they're stuck in.

But then again, it is quite likely that the Harvard members of this Wuss generation could not have successfully debated for the correct side of the question anyway. They probably thought that they had a sure win.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Oh so jails are flooded with fucking capable citizens?!

LEGALIZE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

Go ahead. Then the criminals will just create another illegal market. You treat drug possession and dealing like guns.

The illegal gun market is already thriving in this country. We are flooded with guns more than any country in the world! Wtf point are you trying to make?!

You blame the item instead of the criminal. Blaming drug laws for incarceration is like blaming the gun for the shooting.

Oh so you are in favor for legalizing the drug?

In theory, I'm in favor of legalizing drugs with the condition that any resulting behavior that confronts others warrants severe punishment. But that won't happen so it may be more practical to keep them underground.
Once legalized, they would just be replaced by another contraband the same way drugs supplanted alcohol when prohibition ended.

Well there is also the approach of having four tiers to drug tolerance in the law.

First is complete tolerance. All possession is legal, all sale is legal, like you selling repackaged vitamins or food supplements.

Second is free to buy but illegal to sell uninspected meds without a license. The law is focused on the seller, not the buyer.

The third is regulated tolerance. You can sell the drug if you are a qualified medical expert or have a prescription from one to sell to that patient. The patient simply needs the prescription. Selling or buying the drug without due medical clearance is illegal.

The fourth tis to make all commerce of that drug illegal, to buy or sell gets the law on their case. Even this varies in levels of tolerance depending how much priority law enforcement places on getting that drug off the street.

I think that marijuana should be completely decriminalized and the harder drugs from cocaine to heroin should be in category three. Any drug that has immediate harmful effects would be the only ones in category four, things like meth and LSD, etc. They do so much damage to your mind and body there is not a responsible way to use them and so society should show no tolerance of them..