Happy Juneteenth

[BlackAsCoal]

I don't do "lesser evil." When lesser evil becomes the argument, there really isn't an argument, just a placebo to make someone think they are actually doing something important when in fact, they aren't.

War cannot be your argument in defense of Obama. We are in a state of perpetual war chasing an invisible enemy that we created. Obama is droning planet earth .. and after the election if he survives, he's going to attack Iran.

Our military is broken with more soldiers killing themselves than are killed by the invisible enemy.

War cannot be your argument.

Link?

You mean you actually need a link for this?

More US Soldiers Committed Suicide Than Died in Combat
More US Soldiers Committed Suicide Than Died in Combat

 

[tjvh]

oh hell yeah the war on drugs is racist.

that is an undeniable fact.

so is the vast majority of the Obama hate syndrome

I don't do drugs, so I don't care about that... As for Mr. Soetoro, my distaste for his Socialist agenda has nothing to do with his skin color.

That is not the presidnet name , he is not a socialist and the only thing you got right about him is hes black.


gee I guess you do hate him for that since its the ONLY real thing you know about him

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.... Feel free to look it up.

 

[hortysir]

I don't do "lesser evil." When lesser evil becomes the argument, there really isn't an argument, just a placebo to make someone think they are actually doing something important when in fact, they aren't.

War cannot be your argument in defense of Obama. We are in a state of perpetual war chasing an invisible enemy that we created. Obama is droning planet earth .. and after the election if he survives, he's going to attack Iran.

Our military is broken with more soldiers killing themselves than are killed by the invisible enemy.

War cannot be your argument.

Link?

You mean you actually need a link for this?

More US Soldiers Committed Suicide Than Died in Combat
More US Soldiers Committed Suicide Than Died in Combat

As of 2010, since that's how old your article is:

Total Military Suicides: 1,366
Total Military Killed: 5,779
Suicides in Iraq by Peace is Patriotic.org

 

[BlackAsCoal]

He is saying that drug abuse is the fault of the person abusing the drugs.

Whether white, black, yellow or purple, that statement holds true.

Wrong. That isn't all that he's saying.

He's saying that the war on drugs has nothing to do with racism or flawed policies.

Again, reconcile that with the truth of who is using the most drugs and outcomes and your confusion will go away.

NOPE... your wrong as usual.

I am saying that there is NO one to blame for one's drug abuse except the drug abuser.... Ya cant go to jail for drugs unless you are in posession of and or using them.

How is it racist?

Ive been to jail a time or two for pot posession... I dont remember anyone prying my hand open and handing the pot to me, or sticking the joint in my mouth and forcing me to puff on it.

If there are more blacks in jail for drug related crimes than whites... then maybe they should wise up and STOP ABUSING AND SELLING DRUGS..!!!!!

With all due respect, there isn't much critical thinking required to recognized the racism in the war on drugs and you have yet to reconcile the rates of arrests with the rates of use and who is using illegal drugs. Much easier to reach for the meme than to actually engage in critical thinking.

These are your words ..

We were talking about who is in jail for it and why

Yet you reject the critical determination of who is in jail for it and why.

The War On Drugs Is Nothing But Institutionalized Racism
The War On Drugs Is Nothing But Institutionalized Racism - Business Insider

The Top 10 Most Startling Facts About People of Color and Criminal Justice in the United States
A Look at the Racial Disparities Inherent in Our Nation’s Criminal-Justice System
The Top 10 Most Startling Facts About People of Color and Criminal Justice in the United States

The Color of Justice - excerpt

The law enforcement methods developed in the course of the "War on Drugs" are utilized almost exclusively in low income communities of racial minorities; they would result in publicized outcry if practiced in middle class white areas. The outcomes differ among the regions and states, but in 2000, according to the Human Rights Watch, blacks were sent to prison on drug charges at the rate of 20 to 57 times that of whites in fifteen states. Nationwide, African-American prison admission for drug offenses rates had increased 26 times between 1983 and 2000, 22 times in case of Latinos, and 8 times for whites. Three-fourths of the imprisoned have been blacks and Latinos, while the majority of illegal drug users and dealers are white. The relevant black imprisonment has declined more recently by some 25% from its peak in the 1990s, but African Americans are still being incarcerated at grossly disproportionate rates. The official explanation for the disparate numbers, the crime rates, is belied by research data: The surveys that have been conducted so far show people of all races using illegal drugs at "remarkably similar rates". Drug markets reflect racial and socioeconomic boundaries, that is most users buy drugs locally from their own. Yet in 2006 for example, 1 out of every 14 black men was incarcerated, compared to 1 in 106 ratio for white men, due largely to the racial bias of the drug war practices.
The New Jim Crow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AGAIN, reconcile the data and statistics if you want to make an intelligent argument supported by facts.

 

[Truthmatters]

I don't do drugs, so I don't care about that... As for Mr. Soetoro, my distaste for his Socialist agenda has nothing to do with his skin color.

That is not the presidnet name , he is not a socialist and the only thing you got right about him is hes black.


gee I guess you do hate him for that since its the ONLY real thing you know about him

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.... Feel free to look it up.

its not his name

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Link?

You mean you actually need a link for this?

More US Soldiers Committed Suicide Than Died in Combat
More US Soldiers Committed Suicide Than Died in Combat

As of 2010, since that's how old your article is:

Total Military Suicides: 1,366
Total Military Killed: 5,779
Suicides in Iraq by Peace is Patriotic.org

WHAT?

Did Google come with your computer?

Is reading comprehension a problem?

Maybe its the words that are confusing you .. just listen

 

[Truthmatters]

its a republican plan to keep blacks from voting

 

[Rat in the Hat]

This thread has derailed so far off track that R J Corman & Hulcher together couldn't salvage it.

 

[The Infidel]

oh hell yeah the war on drugs is racist.

that is an undeniable fact.

so is the vast majority of the Obama hate syndrome

I don't do drugs, so I don't care about that... As for Mr. Soetoro, my distaste for his Socialist agenda has nothing to do with his skin color.

That is not the presidnet name , he is not a socialist and the only thing you got right about him is hes black.


gee I guess you do hate him for that since its the ONLY real thing you know about him

Oh yes he is....
Obama’s Third-Party History - Stanley Kurtz - National Review Online

 

[hortysir]

This thread has derailed so far off track that R J Corman & Hulcher together couldn't salvage it.

I do what I can.



It's a TDM thread, so....





And, BAC, did you open the link I provided?

Have more than 6,440 military committed suicide since 2002?

 

[The Infidel]

its a republican plan to keep blacks from voting

This thread has derailed so far off track that R J Corman & Hulcher together couldn't salvage it.

Now its voters rights....

 

[tjvh]

That is not the presidnet name , he is not a socialist and the only thing you got right about him is hes black.


gee I guess you do hate him for that since its the ONLY real thing you know about him

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.... Feel free to look it up.

its not his name

Not his Muslim one... But his name nevertheless.

 

[Truthmatters]

I don't do drugs, so I don't care about that... As for Mr. Soetoro, my distaste for his Socialist agenda has nothing to do with his skin color.

That is not the presidnet name , he is not a socialist and the only thing you got right about him is hes black.


gee I guess you do hate him for that since its the ONLY real thing you know about him

Oh yes he is....
Obama’s Third-Party History - Stanley Kurtz - National Review Online

why didnt they show they show the claimed registration?

 

[tjvh]

its a republican plan to keep blacks from voting

What is??? Juneteenth?

 

[Truthmatters]

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.... Feel free to look it up.

its not his name

Not his Muslim one... But his name nevertheless.

what is his legal name?

 

[Truthmatters]

its a republican plan to keep blacks from voting

What is??? Juneteenth?

the drug war

 

[Rat in the Hat]

You know what this thread needs??

MORE COWBELL!!!!!!

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[The Infidel]

Wrong. That isn't all that he's saying.

He's saying that the war on drugs has nothing to do with racism or flawed policies.

Again, reconcile that with the truth of who is using the most drugs and outcomes and your confusion will go away.

NOPE... your wrong as usual.

I am saying that there is NO one to blame for one's drug abuse except the drug abuser.... Ya cant go to jail for drugs unless you are in posession of and or using them.

How is it racist?

Ive been to jail a time or two for pot posession... I dont remember anyone prying my hand open and handing the pot to me, or sticking the joint in my mouth and forcing me to puff on it.

If there are more blacks in jail for drug related crimes than whites... then maybe they should wise up and STOP ABUSING AND SELLING DRUGS..!!!!!

With all due respect, there isn't much critical thinking required to recognized the racism in the war on drugs and you have yet to reconcile the rates of arrests with the rates of use and who is using illegal drugs. Much easier to reach for the meme than to actually engage in critical thinking.

These are your words ..

We were talking about who is in jail for it and why

Yet you reject the critical determination of who is in jail for it and why.

The War On Drugs Is Nothing But Institutionalized Racism
The War On Drugs Is Nothing But Institutionalized Racism - Business Insider

The Top 10 Most Startling Facts About People of Color and Criminal Justice in the United States
A Look at the Racial Disparities Inherent in Our Nation’s Criminal-Justice System
The Top 10 Most Startling Facts About People of Color and Criminal Justice in the United States

The Color of Justice - excerpt

The law enforcement methods developed in the course of the "War on Drugs" are utilized almost exclusively in low income communities of racial minorities; they would result in publicized outcry if practiced in middle class white areas. The outcomes differ among the regions and states, but in 2000, according to the Human Rights Watch, blacks were sent to prison on drug charges at the rate of 20 to 57 times that of whites in fifteen states. Nationwide, African-American prison admission for drug offenses rates had increased 26 times between 1983 and 2000, 22 times in case of Latinos, and 8 times for whites. Three-fourths of the imprisoned have been blacks and Latinos, while the majority of illegal drug users and dealers are white. The relevant black imprisonment has declined more recently by some 25% from its peak in the 1990s, but African Americans are still being incarcerated at grossly disproportionate rates. The official explanation for the disparate numbers, the crime rates, is belied by research data: The surveys that have been conducted so far show people of all races using illegal drugs at "remarkably similar rates". Drug markets reflect racial and socioeconomic boundaries, that is most users buy drugs locally from their own. Yet in 2006 for example, 1 out of every 14 black men was incarcerated, compared to 1 in 106 ratio for white men, due largely to the racial bias of the drug war practices.
The New Jim Crow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AGAIN, reconcile the data and statistics if you want to make an intelligent argument supported by facts.

DID ANYONE FORCE THAT POOR BLACK MAN TO USE OR SELL THE DRUGS????

Its the abuser's fault and no one else's!!!! I dont give a rats ass what color their skin is.

Besides, I went to jail with a black friend years ago for smoking a joint and guess who spent more time in jail.... I DID you twirp!
Ya want to know why??? Because I had an arrest for posession on my record already and he didnt.... WOW how racist were they for sticking that poor little white boy in jail... OH BOO fucking HOO!!!
I WAS WRONG AND I DID THE TIME. It was MY OWN fault.


I have news for you BAC... the drug policies in America fuck all of us if we decide to use drugs.

I for one think the drug laws need to be changed, but to claim they are racist is a joke.

 

[The Infidel]

That is not the presidnet name , he is not a socialist and the only thing you got right about him is hes black.


gee I guess you do hate him for that since its the ONLY real thing you know about him

Oh yes he is....
Obama’s Third-Party History - Stanley Kurtz - National Review Online

why didnt they show they show the claimed registration?

 

[Truthmatters]

How many states dont let ex cons vote?