GW Calls It Right!

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    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050409/ap_on_re_eu/pope_bush

     
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    too lazy to start another thread that I know the 'born again' will 'try' to ignore. :laugh:

    Interesting day at school. The 3rd grade teacher taped FOX NEWS from 2 am-6am CST. 6th grade sub taped CBS from 3-5.

    At 9am, 3rd grade and 8th grade, (8 years and 13 years) were together for 50 minutes. What they got were the 'big ideas' from the Years of PJII: Mercy, steadfastness, 'be not afraid', salvation through Christ...
     
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    Its amazing how when the world is trying to celebrate the life and mourn the death of the Pope, Bill Clinton is still focused solely on himself. Everyone legacies aren't mixed. In fact, I don't think anyone's legacy is mixed. President Bush nailed what the Pope's legacy will be. Bill Clinton can try to pretend its a mixed legacy, heck he can try to pretend his legacy was a mixed legacy. Neither the Pope's legacy, nor Clintons legacy was mixed.

    The Pope stood as a man of faith and conviction in a time of shifting values. He helped bring about the end of the Soviet empire. Opened Dozens of nations to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ in all it's forms. And kept values steady. He will always be remembered for that.

    Clinton will not have a mixed or a good legacy. He will have a legacy of being one of the worst President's in the 20th century. He will be seen as a man whose lack of vision for the world and diligence in protecting our nation brought about 911. He will be seen as the man who waged war to cover his sins. He will be seen as a man who blamed the public when he got caught with his pants down. He will be seen as that man who made the American people complacent. He had stewardship over the nation and in part the world during most of the decade of illusion. Illusion in security. Illusion in prosperity.

    No, no one leaves mixed legacies. They are either remembered for the good things they do or the bad things they are do. rarely both.
     
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    Thanks Avatar! You restore my faith in Christians in general. I know that you are 'born again', yet I do not see the 'judgementalism' that seems ripe on the boards. Unlike some, I haven't a clue to what God wants, just trying to do the best I can, with too many faults to count. Those that 'know' may be right, I'm just not amongst them.

    I do know a person that lived a life better than I could hope to live when I see it. If someone had shot me twice in the abdomen, I know I wouldn't just pop in to say, "I forgive you, even if you haven't asked me to..." Shoot, I don't think I would have if they did!
     
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    Excellent point----frickin Clinton is now trying to PRE-write history.
    get lost, Bubba :2guns:
     
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    Im not born again. I mean I have been born of the Spirit. Every Christian should be. But I am not a Born agian Christian as in the category of Evangelical Christianity.

    The Pope has a strong character. And as I said He helped open dozens of nations up to all types of Christianity. I mean i know he was focusing on catholicism but it got all of them in.
     
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    Sorry I was wrong misinterpreting the 'born again.' I admire your Christian background. I agree, the Pope was a unique character. He was a seldom found bridge, for many.
     
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    You sure do like taking jabs at the born-agains lately don't ya?
     
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    And this does not present a judgemental attitutude? You have just just judged born-agains judgemental.

    You like to rip the beliefs of others, yet you take umbrage if anybody rips your beliefs.
     
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    Well, they do make themselves easy targets..
     

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