GOP Running Away From Health Care Completely!

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    Now that there is ObamaCare, say the GOP, then first job one is Repeal! Then nothing is supposed to happen after that!

    GOP divided on how to replace health overhaul law - Time Warner - Finance

    Anyone notices that "No!" is still not a form of exercise. Doing nothing at all is also not a form of exercise. Offering nothing is not even an agenda.

    "Don't Know" is also not a form of exercise. Their Senate Candidate in Delaware at least managed to call them, "lazy."

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
    (White Eyes Old Squaws Put Shiny Trinkets in Machines. Hope For Rewards: Hmmm: Even Standing Up!)
     
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    Why is it liberals think the ONLY way to solve anything is to have the government fuck it up more???????

    (You're right, I don't usually use the F word, but it seems so appropriate for what the government does to anything)

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
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    Well here is the GOP bill to replace the current law. http://gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/...rnative_Health_Care_plan_Updated_11-04-09.pdf

    It promises lower healthcare cost but only offers only tort reform and purchase across state lines as a way of reducing cost. This won't even come close to lowering premiums.

    It keeps the high risk pools that are in the current law as a way of providing universal access but does not provide for universal coverage since there are no subsidies, which means most of the 50 million people without healthcare will remain so and there is no reason to expect that number will continue to grow.

    It encourages insurance companies to allow dependents to remain on their parents policy to age 25 but does not require it.

    It does not close the Medicare donut hole.

    It does not increase costs but it also does not reduce the deficit and it does not solve the problem.


    The costs and impact on the deficit of the current law according to CBO which is nonpartisan are as follows. The GOP of course has made their own predictions.

    The current Law:
    Cost:

    $940 billion over ten years.
    Deficit:

    Would reduce the deficit by $143 billion over the first ten years. That is an updated CBO estimate. Their first preliminary estimate said it would reduce the deficit by $130 billion over ten years. Would reduce the deficit by $1.2 trillion dollars in the second ten years.
    Health Care Reform Bill Summary: A Look At What's in the Bill - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
     
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    Conservative Republicans, even on CNN September 19, tend to belittle Europeans because they have been our allies in years gone by. The progressive, Christian Democratic parties are not well-liked by theTea Party GOP. Their health plans and benefit programs are not well-liked by Republicans. The electing Tea Party, of the GOP, is now famously, and widely regarded: As two factions being now one. GOP Is All Tea Party, apparently even down to the belief in Satanic Forces, and the rituals about them.

    Possibly, the will set about burning one another at the stake.

    The Democratic Party, national health plan, tends to rely on market forces, and payout cost-controls, creating a basis level of medical care requirements: In any number of plans.

    Many understand this.

    12 Reasons to Support Health Care - Stand Up for Health Care

    The Republican Despisement of market forces was most notable in the widely touted, and supported, bail-out of billionaire bankers. In all good humor, the bankers did pay it largely back, with interest: In less than 18 months. The Tea Party GOP is all about belief in those bail-outs.

    The Republican Conservatives actually explain it: They wanted to send a message to the markets that the billionaire mega-bucks, at the expense of the poor, the elderly and small business credit support: Were intact, after all.

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred."
    (The Holy Father apparently knows about Her Majesty's new Conservative, New Austerity, for the Royal Household budget. Apparently the Holy See needed to know if the boys were OK, given their own point of view!)
     
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    Can anybody explain to me what reporting purchases over $600 to the IRS has to do with health care?
     
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    The reporting requirement of $600.00 purchases to IRS already exists for services. In the Health Care legislation. it extends that to goods.

    Republicans generally tend to be fiscally irresponsible. Examples are Ronald Reagan's first-ever $1.0 tril. federal deficits, and George Bush II's $1.0 tril. un-funded basis-free slaughter of U. S. troops in the field in Iraq, and the $0.75. tril. bail-out for the billionaire banker bonuses to encourage less new credit for small business owners.

    Anyone notices that Republicans are clearly in opposition to pay-as-you go in government operations.

    Anyone notices that Republicans spent all those months opposing any lending to any small business owners anywhere in America!

    The extension of an existing revenue provision in the law helps with deficit reduction, and is contained in the deficit-reducing, health care legislation.

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
    (Republicans understand Deficit Reduction to be like sending in Long Knives, Led By Yellow-Hair, into Little Big Horn to be slaughtered, just like basis-free invasion and occupation of Iraq! They all die, and get pay and provisions no more! That is what America means to Tea Party, GOP!)
     
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    There is no "GOP bill to replace the current law" because the GOP has no power in Congress.
    Obamacare's "savings" are a joke. The cost is estimated at over $1T and will obviously go up. It will not reduce the deficit, it will increase it.
    And every day some new aspect of this monstrosity comes up, whether its college's unable to offer insurance to students or companies having to submit 1099s for purchases.
    No wonder the Dums have passed the most unpopular, hated, piece of legislation probably in history. But this is what happens when you circumvent normal legislative process, as the Dums did to get this crap through.
     
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    Yeah, look at the ME War. 9 years and it is still fucked up. We need to send Bush back over and find those WMDs.
     
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