Good teaching tool for early teaching in biology

The only thing that could have been added to that first life form was..."natural selection". And all it had to work with was what the microbe had within it.

The same with the junkyard/747 analogy. All the needed materials had to be there at the time of the explosion.
The silky junkyard/747 analogy is not an analogy at all. The creationist industry should stop using it. It reveals a staggeringly ignorant view of science.

Biological organisms evolve. They react to chemical interactions and environmental pressures. Mechanical components do not.
 
The silky junkyard/747 analogy is not an analogy at all. The creationist industry should stop using it. It reveals a staggeringly ignorant view of science.

Biological organisms evolve. They react to chemical interactions and environmental pressures. Mechanical components do not.
You need to explain the 'natural' origin of life before you change it into...us.
 
You need to explain the 'natural' origin of life before you change it into...us.
I can't explain the precise process. There are are number of obvious paths which science can study and those paths are being investigated. At least with science investigation, we have a chance at finding the truth. Not so with partisan beliefs in gods. There is no more likelihood as to the existence of your gods vs. any other gods.

Abiogenesis (the origin of the first life) is not due purely to chance as creationers like to claim. Atoms and molecules do not arrange themselves randomly. The order of arrangement is due to their chemical properties. In the case of carbon atoms, (carbon being the basic element of life), complex molecules can form spontaneously, and these complex molecules can influence each other to create even more complex molecules.

 
I can't explain the precise process. There are are number of obvious paths which science can study and those paths are being investigated. At least with science investigation, we have a chance at finding the truth. Not so with partisan beliefs in gods. There is no more likelihood as to the existence of your gods vs. any other gods.

Abiogenesis (the origin of the first life) is not due purely to chance as creationers like to claim. Atoms and molecules do not arrange themselves randomly. The order of arrangement is due to their chemical properties. In the case of carbon atoms, (carbon being the basic element of life), complex molecules can form spontaneously, and these complex molecules can influence each other to create even more complex molecules.

Creationists don't claim that any of this is random.

If you are going to start with atoms and molecules you need to establish the origin of those materials.
 
Creationists don't claim that any of this is random.

If you are going to start with atoms and molecules you need to establish the origin of those materials.

Carbon atoms you want help with?



Creationists claim supernatural intervention by supernatural forces. You need to establish the origin of your gods. What is the hierarchy of designer gods who created your gods?
 
Carbon atoms you want help with?



Creationists claim supernatural intervention by supernatural forces. You need to establish the origin of your gods. What is the hierarchy of designer gods who created your gods?
Science will eventually discover what the bible reveals about matter, that it appears "out of thin air". They are diligently working on the problem as we speak but so far are stumped.

Neither believers or scientists can explain this. The difference is that we don't have to. Science on the other hand is compelled to try.
 
Science will eventually discover what the bible reveals about matter, that it appears "out of thin air". They are diligently working on the problem as we speak but so far are stumped.
You're stumped. Scientists know that "thin air" contains lots of matter already.
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  1. 1.
    the invisible gaseous substance surrounding the earth, a mixture mainly of oxygen and nitrogen.
 
Science will eventually discover what the bible reveals about matter, that it appears "out of thin air". They are diligently working on the problem as we speak but so far are stumped.

Neither believers or scientists can explain this. The difference is that we don't have to. Science on the other hand is compelled to try.
The Bible reveals nothing about matter. ''out of thin air'' is no more an explanation than, ''by magic''.

Sorry, but creationers are not working on any problem solving. You need to be honest with yourself and others. Creationer ministries have a common theme which is a ''statement of faith" that requires total and unquestioning allegiance to biblical rhetoric.
 
The Bible reveals nothing about matter. ''out of thin air'' is no more an explanation than, ''by magic''.
It reveals this.

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
 
It reveals this.

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
A rather blatant admission that “magic” is a poor substitute for knowledge. Strange that the all-knowing, all-seeing Bible tells us nothing about existence, that light travels pretty darn fast, that stars are very far away, or anything about the four states of matter: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. That would be useful. Instead we get a flat earth and firmaments.

Consider that the word of the gods never entered the stories and fables written by the authors, largely unknown, of the Bible. Such phrases as “the word of god” has no relevance as the gods played no part and contributed no editorial to the Bible.
 
A rather blatant admission that “magic” is a poor substitute for knowledge. Strange that the all-knowing, all-seeing Bible tells us nothing about existence, that light travels pretty darn fast, that stars are very far away, or anything about the four states of matter: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. That would be useful. Instead we get a flat earth and firmaments.

Consider that the word of the gods never entered the stories and fables written by the authors, largely unknown, of the Bible. Such phrases as “the word of god” has no relevance as the gods played no part and contributed no editorial to the Bible.
The bible is the word of God. :bowdown: Man would never write such a work.

It might help if you consulted a physics professor asked him or her what their greatest dilemma is. ;)
 
The bible is the word of God. :bowdown: Man would never write such a work.

It might help if you consulted a physics professor asked him or her what their greatest dilemma is. ;)
We know for a fact that men wrote the Bible. So yes, men could write such a book. Nowhere in the Bible is there a “quote” attributed to any god that was made in the presence of a man. Shrubbery spontaneously bursting into flames is not a direct communication from any god.

The greatest dilemma of religionists seems to be a reluctance to read their bibles.
 
We know for a fact that men wrote the Bible. So yes, men could write such a book. Nowhere in the Bible is there a “quote” attributed to any god that was made in the presence of a man. Shrubbery spontaneously bursting into flames is not a direct communication from any god.

The greatest dilemma of religionists seems to be a reluctance to read their bibles.
God communicates with us through the written word, his ministry, and the indwelling Holy Spirit. We speak to God through prayer and deeds. We're in touch all the time. :)
 
God communicates with us through the written word, his ministry, and the indwelling Holy Spirit. We speak to God through prayer and deeds. We're in touch all the time. :)
There is no written word of any god. There are tales and fables written by men. Can you show us anything in any Bible that suggests anyone ever met the god or took any dictation?
 
We know for a fact that men wrote the Bible. So yes, men could write such a book. Nowhere in the Bible is there a “quote” attributed to any god that was made in the presence of a man. Shrubbery spontaneously bursting into flames is not a direct communication from any god.

The greatest dilemma of religionists seems to be a reluctance to read their bibles.
Religionists don't make YouTube videos of their dilemmas like scientists do.
 
There is no written word of any god. There are tales and fables written by men. Can you show us anything in any Bible that suggests anyone ever met the god or took any dictation?
Men penned the words as inspired by God.

God inspired the bible for your benefit. You should take advantage of it.
 

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