Good teaching tool for early teaching in biology

[Hollie]

But very few know anything about it. Of course, Christianity is a rather exclusive club as well.

Funny.

Biological evolution is among the best supported theories and best supported fields of science so why claim that few know anything about it?

 

[Grumblenuts]

I don't ignore it...But unlike you, I also don't ignore the contradictions.

One of the cornerstones of Darwinian evolution is the idea of mutants living long enough to procreate, when everywhere in nature the mutants are killed at birth.

Yet somehow you survived and still never think twice before typing such ignorant garbage.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Evolution flies in the face of the law of entropy.

Wake up. There never have been any "isolated systems" in the natural world.

 

[Grumblenuts]

The fossil record can be made to say whatever science wants it to say. Very malleable, that ole fossil record.

Do go on. Demonstrate how you make "the fossil record" say "whatever science wants it to say"..
Talk is cheap. Life is short. Making sense is valuable.

 

[Woodznutz]

It's no more or less odd than Christianity.

"Christian Oddball". I like it.

 

[Woodznutz]

Wake up. There never have been any "isolated systems" in the natural world.

Evolution doesn't seem to be affected by the laws of nature.

 

[Woodznutz]

Do go on. Demonstrate how you make "the fossil record" say "whatever science wants it to say"..
Talk is cheap. Life is short. Making sense is valuable.

Are you saying that the fossil record isn't constantly being reinterpreted by science?

 

[Woodznutz]

Biological evolution is among the best supported theories and best supported fields of science so why claim that few know anything about it?

Few relative to the sheer number that believe it.

 

[Hollie]

Few relative to the sheer number that believe it.

There is no requirement for belief when facts are known. Belief is a requirement for magic, supernaturalism and religion. Not so with the science of evolutionary biology because the evidence is tested and confirmed.

Notre Dame biologists tackling big question in evolution

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So strange. I couldn't find any university studies on determining how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

 

[Woodznutz]

There is no requirement for belief when facts are known. Belief is a requirement for magic, supernaturalism and religion. Not so with the science of evolutionary biology because the evidence is tested and confirmed.

In Christianity the facts support the belief. Christians are as 'wide-eyed' as college freshmen when first called. They then go on to the learning phase, the foundation of which is "prove all things, hold fast to that which is true."

Don't just drink the Kool Aid. Look deeper into the theory, at the molecular and even the atomic level.

 

[Hollie]

In Christianity the facts support the belief. Christians are as 'wide-eyed' as college freshmen when first called. They then go on to the learning phase, the foundation of which is "prove all things, hold fast to that which is true."

Don't just drink the Kool Aid. Look deeper into the theory, at the molecular and even the atomic level.

I'm curious why bible facts are so consistently non-factual. 900 year old men on yachting adventures, for example. Firmaments as domes over a flat earth.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'm curious why bible facts are so consistently non-factual. 900 year old men on yachting adventures, for example. Firmaments as domes over a flat earth.

Noah was 600 years old.
Ark, not yacht.
The earth still appears that way. Go outside and take a look.

Religion isn't just a set of beliefs, it's a pretty good way of life.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Are you saying that the fossil record isn't constantly being reinterpreted by science?

Who is this "science" person you keep referring to? Science can't speak or change its mind. Science is just a word literally meaning to study. You too could do it if you cared enough to keep your terminology straight. Biology is a science. Practice: The "study of" what? Don't deflect. Forget trying to be cute. Just answer honestly.. Well?.. "The study of living organisms." Presto, you're no longer simply a belligerently ignorant pest! Who knows, you may contribute something of use to a meaningful discussion some day..

 

[Hollie]

Noah was 600 years old.
Ark, not yacht.
The earth still appears that way. Go outside and take a look.

Religion isn't just a set of beliefs, it's a pretty good way of life.

Noah was 601,when he ported the yacht. You wrote earlier, ''in Christianity the facts support the belief.'' Where are the facts of a 601 year old piloting a yacht full of animals while on a cruise during a global flood 4,500 years ago?

Did you know that the Greek philosopher and mathematician Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the planet long before there was any Bible?

The Greek philosopher Pythagoras was among the first to propose the sphericity of the Earth in the 6th century BC, (<---- before the invention of Christianity), using among his observations how the sail of a ship could be observed to disappear over the curvature of the Earth.

Plato also espoused a spherical Earth in the Phaedra, and his student Aristotle gave his reasoning in his book On the Heavens in 350 BC. His proof rested on the fact that the shadow of the Earth on the Moon during a lunar eclipse is round, His observations were so compelling that a spherical Earth was the central assumption of all subsequent philosophers of the Classical era. He also used the curved phases of the moon to argue that the Moon must also be a sphere like the Earth

 

[Woodznutz]

Did you know that the Greek philosopher and mathematician Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the planet long before there was any Bible?

The Greek philosopher Pythagoras was among the first to propose the sphericity of the Earth in the 6th century BC, (<---- before the invention of Christianity), using among his observations how the sail of a ship could be observed to disappear over the curvature of the Earth.

Plato also espoused a spherical Earth in the Phaedra, and his student Aristotle gave his reasoning in his book On the Heavens in 350 BC. His proof rested on the fact that the shadow of the Earth on the Moon during a lunar eclipse is round, His observations were so compelling that a spherical Earth was the central assumption of all subsequent philosophers of the Classical era. He also used the curved phases of the moon to argue that the Moon must also be a sphere like the Earth

Christianity has no problem with this.

 

[Woodznutz]

Who is this "science" person you keep referring to? Science can't speak or change its mind. Science is just a word literally meaning to study. You too could do it if you cared enough to keep your terminology straight. Biology is a science. Practice: The "study of" what? Don't deflect. Forget trying to be cute. Just answer honestly.. Well?.. "The study of living organisms." Presto, you're no longer simply a belligerently ignorant pest! Who knows, you may contribute something of use to a meaningful discussion some day..

My use of the term is correct. Consult any college English teacher.

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[Woodznutz]

Noah was 601,when he ported the yacht. You wrote earlier, ''in Christianity the facts support the belief.'' Where are the facts of a 601 year old piloting a yacht full of animals while on a cruise during a global flood 4,500 years ago?

Why rewrite the story before arguing about it?

Which of the Proverbs isn't true?

 

[Grumblenuts]

My use of the term is correct.

Whoa, lookout.. And you presume to speak for all of "Christianity" as well!

 

[Woodznutz]

Whoa, lookout.. And you presume to speak for all of "Christianity" as well!

One thing at a time. Call your English professor. Get back to me.

 

[Woodznutz]

Talk is cheap. Life is short. Making sense is valuable.

Very good points. We should do more of this at the fundamental level.