Just found this forum today. I guess I'm one of those neither side cares for. I don't believe in paying people to have babies and I think carrying half the world's defense budget is also outrageous. I believe in The Constitution of The United States of America, think The Patriot Act, NDAA, and other expansions of govt power are bullshit. Yes I am one of those "conspiracy nuts" Served 4 year United States Army. Look forward to debating/conversing with yall.