God, the Army, and PTSD

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    I was watching the World War II series on the History channel and a soldier mentioned how the war cost him his faith. It has always surprised me how people can view the horror of the world and still have faith. Consider only the Holocaust or even Shock and Awe.

    'Is religion an obstacle to treatment?' Tara McKelvey

    "During the Iraq war, however, the great difficulty veterans experienced in getting psychiatric care—greater than before—was not a product of cost-cutting, but of conviction: many Bush administration officials believed that soldiers who supported the war would not face psychological problems, and if they did, they would find comfort in faith. In a resigned tone, one prominent researcher who worked for the VA, and asked that he not be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the press, explained that high-ranking officials believed that “Jesus fixes everything.” Benimoff and the others who returned with devastating psychological injuries found a faith-based bureau within the VA. At veterans’ hospitals, chaplains were conducting spirituality assessments of patients."

    Boston Review — Tara McKelvey: God, the Army, and PTSD
     
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    Some also find their faith in combat.
     
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    New eyes take a fresh look at PTSD...
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    Ex-Army nurse on a quest for more research on PTSD treatment
    April 6, 2013 — Retired Lt. Col. Linda Fletcher, a 22-year veteran of the Army Nurse Corps, thinks it’s time to ask different questions about post-traumatic stress disorder that afflicts many returning veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
     
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    Count on hate filled lefties to focus on the negative. If you stayed for the entire WW2 series you would have found that a lot of Soldiers find their faith under combat conditions. As they said in the first war to end all wars "there are no atheists in the trenches". Of course there were some fakers like Al Gore who couldn't take the the pressure of the typewriter corps in Vietnam and went to the Chaplain to get an early out.
     
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    What is it that has happened to men to make them the way they are? At one time war was really war, hand to hand combat with swords, spears, axes and morning stars. After the victory the men went home, took care of their families, worked and raised their children to be relatively decent human beings. Today, men push a button and kill small numbers of individuals from hundreds if not thousands of miles away. They go home have to take drugs and drink, they beat their wives and children, kick the dog and claim they have PTSD. How did they get so weak? At the battle of Agincourt 6,000 English slaughtered 36,000 French in hand to hand combat. That's cutting off limbs personally, bashing in heads personally. No PTSD, the farmers went back to farming. The shopkeepers went back to keeping shops. Again, what the hell happened to men?
     
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    Bullshit. I was a medic with a Mech. Infantry Bn. And most of our fighting took place within archery range. And you are very much mistaken if you think modern weapons are any less brutal than any that came before. If you understood the first thing about PTSD you would know that it is a disorder that has been around as long as people have been waging war.
    If you want to accuse someone of being "weak" why not do it to their face? I suspect you might reconsider your opinion. Assholes like you spewing bullshit are a reason that some who need help try to get by without it. You do your little bit to keep the suicide numbers high. Congratulations. It's easy to talk about combat when the most violent thing you've ever had to do was assault a little ball with a club. Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk.
     
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    Gov't. givin' PTSD veterans the run-around...
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    PTSD review patients struggle to amend records
    September 8, 2013 Aaron Ostrum and his wife thought they got a blessing early last year when the Army reconsidered the former soldier’s mental health records and changed his diagnosis to post-traumatic stress disorder.
     
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    I'm of the opinion that about half the world suffers from PTSD.

    It isn't just something one gets in combat.

    It is exactly what is is called: post-TRAUMATIC stress disorder.

    I think a whole lot of non-combat related DEPRESSION in civilians is also PTSD.

    Every HATIAN I ever met had it and most of the children of the very poor had symptoms of it, too.

    Victims of long term domestic violence often have it, abused children have it etc etc.
     
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    Mefloquine & PTSD...

    Federal officials issue strong new warning about anti-malaria drug
    August 2, 2013 — Federal drug officials have issued a strong new warning about a controversial anti-malaria medication once routinely given to U.S. troops, some of whom say it damaged them permanently.
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    Medal of Honor recipient offers advice to troops about PTSD and surviving war
    April 23, 2014 WASHINGTON — Former Army Sgt. Kyle J. White, who will be awarded the Medal of Honor next month, said troops suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder shouldn’t suffer in silence.
     
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    "The war cost him his faith?? Al gore allegedly found his faith in Vietnam and promised the Chaplain that he would become a priest if only he could get out of the dangerous typewriter corps.
     

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