Gloomy numbers for Obama

[Conservative]

conservative and blastoff, the pitcher-catcher team who watched the hitter sock the ball over the center field fence to win the game, yell, "We struck him out!"

You two are loopy.

I gave you the context you asked for. Now what are you whining about? Other than having your ass handed to you on a fucking silver platter.

Please pick ANY one of the points I made, and provided context for, and lets discuss them rationally... if you can.

 

[JakeStarkey]

conservative and blastoff, the pitcher-catcher team who watched the hitter sock the ball over the center field fence to win the game, yell, "We struck him out!"

You two are loopy.

I gave you the context you asked for. Now what are you whining about? Other than having your ass handed to you on a fucking silver platter.

Please pick ANY one of the points I made, and provided context for, and lets discuss them rationally... if you can.

None of your posts give any context. Saying it does not make it so. Do it, and we can discuss rationally.

 

[Teals_Of_Wonder]

considering how libs and democrats have been lying about most economic facts since 2009, along with all of thier fake polls that claim Obama can't be beat, the polls that read that Obama will beat Romney by a landslide, polls that the economy is turning around (thanks Debbie Wasserhead),,,,etc etc,,,,,does anyone really take anything they say about the 2012 election seriously? hmm,,,Obama won the Iowa Caucus last night?

 

[paulitician]

I predict a sudden shift & transformation here at USMB. The old OWS nutters will now return here to become Wall Street's biggest Cheerleaders. Now that OWS is dead,they'll have to use an improving Wall Street as a way of making their Messiah look better. It's all they have left. Do they hate Wall Street? Do they love Wall Street? They don't know. But they do know OWS is dead. So look for that boasting about an improving Wall Street stuff from the former OWS nutters. Stay tuned.

 

[blastoff]

conservative and blastoff, the pitcher-catcher team who watched the hitter sock the ball over the center field fence to win the game, yell, "We struck him out!"

You two are loopy.

Those reading will form their opinions. Yours is meaningless.

 

[Uncensored2008]

When was the last time Romney had a job?
Been a while....

he he he

When was the last time Obama did a competent job?

That would be never....

 

[Conservative]

conservative and blastoff, the pitcher-catcher team who watched the hitter sock the ball over the center field fence to win the game, yell, "We struck him out!"

You two are loopy.

Those reading will form their opinions. Yours is meaningless.

the problem is not that his opinion is meaningless. The problem is that he does not HAVE an opinion of his own.

 

[Conservative]

conservative and blastoff, the pitcher-catcher team who watched the hitter sock the ball over the center field fence to win the game, yell, "We struck him out!"

You two are loopy.

I gave you the context you asked for. Now what are you whining about? Other than having your ass handed to you on a fucking silver platter.

Please pick ANY one of the points I made, and provided context for, and lets discuss them rationally... if you can.

None of your posts give any context. Saying it does not make it so. Do it, and we can discuss rationally.

Let's try it this way... pick any single topic in the OP, and define 'context'. Tell me what YOU consider context.

 

[Uncensored2008]

the problem is not that his opinion is meaningless. The problem is that he does not HAVE an opinion of his own.

Well, the opinion of the hate sites like ThinkProgress are Jake's opinion, so in that way he has an opinion...

 

[Conservative]

Let's try it this way... pick any single topic in the OP, and define 'context'. Tell me what YOU consider context.

still waiting Jake.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I gave you the context you asked for. Now what are you whining about? Other than having your ass handed to you on a fucking silver platter.

Please pick ANY one of the points I made, and provided context for, and lets discuss them rationally... if you can.

None of your posts give any context. Saying it does not make it so. Do it, and we can discuss rationally.

Let's try it this way... pick any single topic in the OP, and define 'context'. Tell me what YOU consider context.

You have made assertions that you have not supported. So begin with one and support it, and we go from there. Remember, this is on you.

 

[Conservative]

None of your posts give any context. Saying it does not make it so. Do it, and we can discuss rationally.

Let's try it this way... pick any single topic in the OP, and define 'context'. Tell me what YOU consider context.

You have made assertions that you have not supported. So begin with one and support it, and we go from there. Remember, this is on you.

You are a complete moron. I posted direct quotes from the OP article, then posted a point by point support of each item, in order.

here it is again, since you apparently missed it the first time...

specifics/context for the cry-baby...

Point 1: dissatisfaction
U.S. Satisfaction Dips to 20% in June

Seventy-eight percent of Americans are now dissatisfied with the nation's direction, according to a June 9-12 Gallup poll.

Point 2: Obama approvals
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
Gallup has him at 45% approve, 47% disapprove.
RCP average is about even at 47%

Point 3a: healthcare law approvals
Health Policy
"In general, do you support, oppose or neither support nor oppose the health care reforms that were passed by Congress in March of 2010?"
Support 29% Oppose 49% (20 point difference as stated in OP)

"Do you think the federal government should have the power to require all Americans to buy health insurance, and to pay a fine if they don't, or do you think the federal government should not have that power?"
Should 15% Should Not 84%

Point 3b: Obama Economy rating
Voters disappointed with Obama over economy: poll | Reuters

Nearly three-quarters of respondents said Obama's administration had fallen short on the economy, on improving oversight of Wall Street and the banks and on the federal budget deficit.

Most of the respondents said the United States was headed in the wrong direction and just 25 percent said they believe the U.S. economy will improve in the next 12 months, the poll found.

Point 4: pro- growth or pro-equality
Americans Prioritize Economy Over Reducing Wealth Gap

Note the 'Grow and expand the economy', vs. the 'reduce the income and wealth gap between the rich and the poor' numbers above.

Point 5: Swing states
Romney, Gingrich Have Slight Edge Over Obama in Swing States

The "swing state" results are from the second USA Today/Gallup Swing States poll, based on Nov. 30-Dec. 7 Gallup Daily tracking of registered voters in 12 states that will be among the most crucial to winning the 2012 presidential election. The states include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin. The national results are based on Dec. 6-7 Gallup Daily tracking of registered voters.

Pick any one of those and lets discuss. Otherwise, you're just a waste of bandwidth.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's try it this way... pick any single topic in the OP, and define 'context'. Tell me what YOU consider context.

You have made assertions that you have not supported. So begin with one and support it, and we go from there. Remember, this is on you.

You are a complete moron. I posted direct quotes from the OP article, then posted a point by point support of each item, in order.

here it is again, since you apparently missed it the first time...

specifics/context for the cry-baby...

Point 1: dissatisfaction
U.S. Satisfaction Dips to 20% in June

Point 2: Obama approvals
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
Gallup has him at 45% approve, 47% disapprove.
RCP average is about even at 47%

Point 3a: healthcare law approvals
Health Policy
"In general, do you support, oppose or neither support nor oppose the health care reforms that were passed by Congress in March of 2010?"
Support 29% Oppose 49% (20 point difference as stated in OP)

"Do you think the federal government should have the power to require all Americans to buy health insurance, and to pay a fine if they don't, or do you think the federal government should not have that power?"
Should 15% Should Not 84%

Point 3b: Obama Economy rating
Voters disappointed with Obama over economy: poll | Reuters

Nearly three-quarters of respondents said Obama's administration had fallen short on the economy, on improving oversight of Wall Street and the banks and on the federal budget deficit.

Most of the respondents said the United States was headed in the wrong direction and just 25 percent said they believe the U.S. economy will improve in the next 12 months, the poll found.

Point 4: pro- growth or pro-equality
Americans Prioritize Economy Over Reducing Wealth Gap

Note the 'Grow and expand the economy', vs. the 'reduce the income and wealth gap between the rich and the poor' numbers above.

Point 5: Swing states
Romney, Gingrich Have Slight Edge Over Obama in Swing States

The "swing state" results are from the second USA Today/Gallup Swing States poll, based on Nov. 30-Dec. 7 Gallup Daily tracking of registered voters in 12 states that will be among the most crucial to winning the 2012 presidential election. The states include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin. The national results are based on Dec. 6-7 Gallup Daily tracking of registered voters.

Pick any one of those and lets discuss. Otherwise, you're just a waste of bandwidth.

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[SFC Ollie]

Give it up Jake.......... You are looking really bad........ Worse than normal even............

 

[JakeStarkey]

Give it up Jake.......... You are looking really bad........ Worse than normal even............

Hi, Ollie. Doofus has been posting his graph that shows nothing much and asking it to be refuted. So I gave him the real deal. You can't see that? No one cares.

You will be voting for Romney next fall, right?

 

[Conservative]

You have made assertions that you have not supported. So begin with one and support it, and we go from there. Remember, this is on you.

You are a complete moron. I posted direct quotes from the OP article, then posted a point by point support of each item, in order.

here it is again, since you apparently missed it the first time...

specifics/context for the cry-baby...

Point 1: dissatisfaction
U.S. Satisfaction Dips to 20% in June

Point 2: Obama approvals
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
Gallup has him at 45% approve, 47% disapprove.
RCP average is about even at 47%

Point 3a: healthcare law approvals
Health Policy
"In general, do you support, oppose or neither support nor oppose the health care reforms that were passed by Congress in March of 2010?"
Support 29% Oppose 49% (20 point difference as stated in OP)

"Do you think the federal government should have the power to require all Americans to buy health insurance, and to pay a fine if they don't, or do you think the federal government should not have that power?"
Should 15% Should Not 84%

Point 3b: Obama Economy rating
Voters disappointed with Obama over economy: poll | Reuters



Point 4: pro- growth or pro-equality
Americans Prioritize Economy Over Reducing Wealth Gap

Note the 'Grow and expand the economy', vs. the 'reduce the income and wealth gap between the rich and the poor' numbers above.

Point 5: Swing states
Romney, Gingrich Have Slight Edge Over Obama in Swing States

The "swing state" results are from the second USA Today/Gallup Swing States poll, based on Nov. 30-Dec. 7 Gallup Daily tracking of registered voters in 12 states that will be among the most crucial to winning the 2012 presidential election. The states include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin. The national results are based on Dec. 6-7 Gallup Daily tracking of registered voters.

Pick any one of those and lets discuss. Otherwise, you're just a waste of bandwidth.

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<sigh>

Let's try this...

Point 1: dissatisfaction
U.S. Satisfaction Dips to 20% in June

From RCP... (your choice)
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Direction of Country
RCP average Right direction: 24.5%
RCP average wrong direction: 70%

In June, Gallup had this at only 20% satisfied with the countries direction. How is that drastically different that the current RCP average, showing only 24.5% approving and 70% disapproving? Is not 70% disapproving greater than 24.5% approving?

In June, RCP had the numbers as follows (see link)...
RCP Average 34.5% approve 6/1/2011
RCP average 56.8% disapprove on 6/1/2011

Using YOUR choice for source material, RCP, the approvals of the direction of the country have GONE DOWN by 10 points, while the disapproval have GONE UP 13.2 points.


Your turn. Explain how this somehow is good for the country?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Hi, Ollie. Doofus has been posting his graph that shows nothing much and asking it to be refuted. So I gave him the real deal. You can't see that? No one cares.

You will be voting for Romney next fall, right?

Jake, you're a mindless Obamabot, we get it.

But you ARE making a fool out of yourself.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Because he uses only some of the numbers? Using the numbers from RCP, one realizes that BHO is almost exactly where Truman (48), Eisenhower (56), and Clinon (96) -- approval around 45 to 48, the House wildly in the hands of the othe party -- were and then kicked their opponents' asses.

If you think this is a walk for either one, then you, Uncensored and your far righty running ilk hiding back in the brush, are delusional.

 

[Dragon]

What's at least as much to the point as where Obama's approval numbers are at this moment is where they are going: up.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

The RCP average has his A-D as a flat tie, 47.6 approval/47.6 disapproval. That's quite an improvement over the last month.

What's more, as usual, we see that Rasmussen is a right-tilted outlier. His is the only poll that give the president a net minus, due mostly to the much higher figure he has for disapproval. If we exclude that outlier, and use only the other four polls, we come to an average of 48 approval/46.25 disapproval, a net of +1.75.

As the economy slowly improves, this is to be expected. Unless something calamitous happens like a double-dip recession between now and election day, it's very very likely he will be reelected.

 

[Conservative]

What's at least as much to the point as where Obama's approval numbers are at this moment is where they are going: up.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

The RCP average has his A-D as a flat tie, 47.6 approval/47.6 disapproval. That's quite an improvement over the last month.

What's more, as usual, we see that Rasmussen is a right-tilted outlier. His is the only poll that give the president a net minus, due mostly to the much higher figure he has for disapproval. If we exclude that outlier, and use only the other four polls, we come to an average of 48 approval/46.25 disapproval, a net of +1.75.

As the economy slowly improves, this is to be expected. Unless something calamitous happens like a double-dip recession between now and election day, it's very very likely he will be reelected.

his numbers are still down from June, as were the numbers I posted, even at RCP.