Global warming?

[TakeAStepBack]

You're contributing to the GHG emissions by breathing, bob. Save the planet, stop breathing.

 

[bobgnote]

You'll stop breathing, before I stop breathing, TakeAShitinyerHat.

You'll be sucking cock in traffic, and you'll choke, or some car will nail you and your trick.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

Wonder how many libs are going to change their minds about science now?
Because I seem to remember libs saying Republicans hate science.

Tree-ring study proves that climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is in the modern industrial age | Mail Online

oh god, while you are literally dying from the effects of climate change i pray to god I am there laughing at your stupid, bigoted, moronic ass

 

[TakeAStepBack]

You'll stop breathing, before I stop breathing, TakeAShitinyerHat.

You'll be sucking cock in traffic, and you'll choke, or some car will nail you and your trick.

Sure thing, bob.

 

[Trakar]

Plateau Gardening: Global warming effects in your backyard

CROSSVILLE — As much as we might wish our natural environment would remain constant, scientists who study our planet’s history as recorded in its rocks and fossils (paeleogeographers), tell us major changes in the land, oceans and global climate patterns occurred long before human beings walked the land or built machines to fill the atmosphere with carbon dioxide. When the earth shook and quaked, land masses moved. Ash that filled the skies as volcanoes erupted caused major cooling events. Sea levels rose and fell. For example, ancient limestone beds containing coral and clamshells in New York and Pennsylvania testify to that region once being under sea water.

Credible scientific sources such as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) review and assess information related to worldwide climate change today. The IPCC says statistics support the idea that planet earth is indeed experiencing global warming. Websites like that for National Geographic (Global Warming Effects Information, Global Warming Effects Facts, Climate Change Effects - National Geographic) say effects of this upward shift in mercury are evident right now. We need not wait for the distant future to feel the impact.

That explains recent events like record-setting high temperatures across our nation during the first six months of 2012, reported decreases in polar ice and an upward shift in ocean shoreline levels due to melting ice caps. All are related to warmer land, ocean surfaces and atmosphere around the world.

Some things attributed to global warming seem less self explanatory like extreme cold snaps or having frequent floods at the same time we see an expansion of drought-stricken regions. I’m not a degreed scientist just an interested layman and at times have had my doubts. I remember muttering something along the lines of “Where is global warming when you need it?” while shoveling snow and breaking up ice on our front walkway during the really cold and snowy winter of 2010-'11.

What effects of this global warming trend can we expect to see around the world and in our own backyards? The impact on vegetation and creatures at the time of prehistoric warming trends and ice ages is well known. Life forms unable to adapt or migrate when conditions became unfavorable became extinct. The huge dinosaurs of 230 million years ago are gone. Nor have woolly mammoths (Mammoths primigenius) which roamed the prairies of what is now the northern United States been around since 2000 BCE. The National Geographic website referenced above says plants and animals are currently being affected by global warming. The numbers of Adélie penguins in Antarctica declined from 32,000 breeding pairs in the past 30 years. “Some butterflies, foxes and alpine plants have moved farther north or to higher cooler areas.”

I learned about the bad effects of too much warmth on common landscape plants when new residents, retirees who had relocated from Michigan and were building a home near Crossville, came to the Cumberland UT Extension office in 2001. I was working the Ask-A-Master-Gardener desk the day they asked about diseases that effected spruce trees (Picea species) in Tennessee. A nurseryman recommended they not include spruce trees in their landscape plan. Disease problems were mentioned but the homeowners were not clear as to what the exact problem was. The couple had spruce trees in the front yard of the house they sold up north and wanted a similar planting on their new property. I tried researching spruce tree diseases but didn’t have much luck until I checked with the agent in Coffee County who had a background in forestry...

Unfortunately, we now must wait til next week to see what anecdote will await our reading!

 

[skookerasbil]

You're contributing to the GHG emissions by breathing, bob. Save the planet, stop breathing.

He's having too much fun drilling his cat on the couch.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

Dont tell me I have found another thread where people who are LITERALLY DYING FROM CLIMATE CHANGE are defending the very people KILLING THEM

LOLOLOLOL

stupid shitbag terrorist baggers

 

[Trakar]

AN Australian Antarctic scientist has made a climate studies breakthrough by examining how the earth warmed up after the last Ice Age.

Glaciologist Joel Pedro, from the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre, is part of an international team that has worked out how quickly carbon entered the atmosphere as a result of temperature rises beginning around 19,000 years ago.
The team discovered that CO2 increased naturally in the atmosphere much more quickly than previously thought during an 8000-year period of global warming.
"The new thing here is to pin down the time scales of how that worked in the past," Dr Pedro told AAP.
"If there was a lag at all then it was likely no more than 400 years.
"We can't rule out that the two just happen at the same time, whereas previously the figures were more like a thousand (years)."

The finding suggests "feedback" in the climate system - where temperature increases CO2, which in turn increases temperature - happens faster than expected.
It also lends support to theories that the oceans warmed more quickly than the 1000 years it was thought was needed for a significant change to occur.
Dr Pedro spent a month drilling ice cores at Law Dome near Casey Station in Eastern Antarctica in 2008-09.
His findings have just been published in the journal Climate of the Past.
The study has been hailed as a major step forward in understanding more recent problems, with US ice core specialist Eric Steig saying it has major implications for understanding the carbon cycle and climate change.
Dr Pedro says the study of natural warming only underlines the speed at which human-created climate change has occurred.
He says 8000 years' worth of natural CO2 increases have been created in the 200 years since the industrial revolution.
"Just as the steady increase in CO2 helped to melt the ice caps and warm the earth out of the ice age, the rapid increase now in CO2 is also driving up temperatures, only at a much faster rate," he said.
"What we're doing now is over a hundred times faster."

 

[ConzHateUSA]

but but but but but but

my owners tell me there is no climate change

but but but but but but

 

[bobgnote]

NOAA Climate Services

This is always a good site.

 

[Unkotare]

You'll stop breathing,[sic] before I stop breathing, TakeAShitinyerHat.

You'll be sucking cock in traffic,[sic] and you'll choke, or some car will nail you and your trick.

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, headcase.

 

[flacaltenn]

Well today I just found out that this is the 2nd hottest july on record for WI. With the remaining time and cool front coming in, it looks like it won't beat 1921 and it barely beat the third place July from the 1930's... can't remember the year.

Plus this now badly needed rain is hitting the state lessening the drought and possibly allowing farmers to salvage SOME of the corn crops.

We'll see.

Hey -- let's throw out some more inflammatory AND USELESS anecdotal weather incidents..

This past June was the WETTEST JUNE ON RECORD for London..

Take that -- you fear-mongerers...

 

[flacaltenn]

The physical cost of damage in 2011 was due to nothing else except chance.. The heart of 4 mid-size cities were hit by tornadoes. So unless you want to assert that G.W. has produced SMARTER tornadoes...

No need to resort to the paranoid supernatural fantasies that seem to make up the foundations of most politically conservative thought processes, all that is required is the understanding that more energy retained in the planet's environment means that the distribution of this energy throughout the environment is going to result in either more storm systems or stronger storm systems (possibly even both). Either way, you increase the odds of damage and the degree of damage when such odds are actualized. Simple physics and statistics.

Nope.. Name me a year where 4 mid-size US city centers were hit in the same season..

I was responding to your fear-mongering article quoting dollar damages that said..

The number of events that produced on the order of $1 billion or more in damages in 2011 is the largest since tracking of that statistic began in 1980, even after damages are adjusted for inflation. NOAA estimates that there were at least 14 such events in 2011. (The previous record was nine, set in 2008; an average year would see three or four.) Collectively, the 14 events resulted in approximately $55 billion in damage.2 Furthermore, many events produced less than $1 billion in damage, but are not included in the tally, although they collectively represent additional significant financial losses. Why did we see such expensive damage last year? There are likely a number of contributing factors, including upward trends in population and infrastructure, migration to vulnerable areas, and climate change. The contribution of each of these factors remains an important research issue.

Note -- they name 4 factors -- you LEAP to conclusions..

Number of events $1B or more are strictly based on the already low probability of an F2 or greater storm hitting a highly developed area. You fail to prove that the number, intensity or type of storms was influenced by "more energy in the system".

Rate and distribution of "highly developed areas" plays more into the dollar-wise damage than a measly 0.5W/m2 increase in surface energy..

I'll wait for you to locate the years when that many city centers were leveled instead of cow pastures or a roadside fruit stand.

Just like Katrina -- there was a GIANT LEAP to the megaphones to pronounce the effects of a 1degC rise in surface temperature had created an age of constant destruction.. You and Ole Rocks and the profane SpongePuppet (who is STILL #1 on my ignore list) will be doing this nonsense for another 150 years before you have a case. Got the stamina? I'd go buy a few cases of "5 Hour Energy" and Red Bull to get you thru..

 

[Old Rocks]

Well today I just found out that this is the 2nd hottest july on record for WI. With the remaining time and cool front coming in, it looks like it won't beat 1921 and it barely beat the third place July from the 1930's... can't remember the year.

Plus this now badly needed rain is hitting the state lessening the drought and possibly allowing farmers to salvage SOME of the corn crops.

We'll see.

Hey -- let's throw out some more inflammatory AND USELESS anecdotal weather incidents..

This past June was the WETTEST JUNE ON RECORD for London..

Take that -- you fear-mongerers...

Thank you for such an abysmally stupid post, Flatulance.

Of course that fact that the June temperature, according to Dr. Spencer was higher than any month recorded prior to 1997 is just a minor point.

In fact, the bottom of the running mean for this the last La Nina period, 2010 through the first four months of 2012, is higher than any of the running mean highs prior to 1998.

Now we are supposed to enter an El Nino period sometime between now and September. Things are going to get very interesting.

 

[Old Rocks]

The physical cost of damage in 2011 was due to nothing else except chance.. The heart of 4 mid-size cities were hit by tornadoes. So unless you want to assert that G.W. has produced SMARTER tornadoes...

No need to resort to the paranoid supernatural fantasies that seem to make up the foundations of most politically conservative thought processes, all that is required is the understanding that more energy retained in the planet's environment means that the distribution of this energy throughout the environment is going to result in either more storm systems or stronger storm systems (possibly even both). Either way, you increase the odds of damage and the degree of damage when such odds are actualized. Simple physics and statistics.

Nope.. Name me a year where 4 mid-size US city centers were hit in the same season..

I was responding to your fear-mongering article quoting dollar damages that said..

The number of events that produced on the order of $1 billion or more in damages in 2011 is the largest since tracking of that statistic began in 1980, even after damages are adjusted for inflation. NOAA estimates that there were at least 14 such events in 2011. (The previous record was nine, set in 2008; an average year would see three or four.) Collectively, the 14 events resulted in approximately $55 billion in damage.2 Furthermore, many events produced less than $1 billion in damage, but are not included in the tally, although they collectively represent additional significant financial losses. Why did we see such expensive damage last year? There are likely a number of contributing factors, including upward trends in population and infrastructure, migration to vulnerable areas, and climate change. The contribution of each of these factors remains an important research issue.

Note -- they name 4 factors -- you LEAP to conclusions..

Number of events $1B or more are strictly based on the already low probability of an F2 or greater storm hitting a highly developed area. You fail to prove that the number, intensity or type of storms was influenced by "more energy in the system".

Rate and distribution of "highly developed areas" plays more into the dollar-wise damage than a measly 0.5W/m2 increase in surface energy..

I'll wait for you to locate the years when that many city centers were leveled instead of cow pastures or a roadside fruit stand.

Just like Katrina -- there was a GIANT LEAP to the megaphones to pronounce the effects of a 1degC rise in surface temperature had created an age of constant destruction.. You and Ole Rocks and the profane SpongePuppet (who is STILL #1 on my ignore list) will be doing this nonsense for another 150 years before you have a case. Got the stamina? I'd go buy a few cases of "5 Hour Energy" and Red Bull to get you thru..

The two worst years for the number of tornados have been in the last decade. Only one year exceeded the death toll of 2011, and that was due to one tornado, the Tri-State Tornado.

Tornadoes of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This page documents the tornadoes and tornado outbreaks of 2011. Extremely destructive tornadoes form most frequently in the U.S., Bangladesh and Eastern India, but they can occur almost anywhere under the right conditions. Tornadoes also appear regularly in neighboring southern Canada during the Northern Hemisphere's summer season, and somewhat regularly in Europe, Asia, and Australia.

There were 1,897 tornadoes reported in the US in 2011 (of which 1,704 were confirmed). 2011 was an exceptionally destructive and deadly year for tornadoes; worldwide, at least 577 people perished due to tornadoes: 12 in Bangladesh, two in South Africa, one in New Zealand, one in the Philippines, one in Russia, one in Canada, and an estimated 553 in the United States (compared to 564 US deaths in the prior ten years combined).[2] Due mostly to several extremely large tornado outbreaks in the middle and end of April and in late May, the year finished well above average in almost every category, with six EF5 tornadoes and nearly enough total tornado reports to eclipse the mark of 1,817 tornadoes recorded in in 2004, the current record year for total number of tornadoes.

553 confirmed fatalities is also the second-most tornadic deaths in a single year for tornadoes in US history. This total is due in large part to the 325 tornadic deaths that occurred during the April 25–28, 2011 tornado outbreak across the Southeastern United States and the 158 tornadic deaths in the 2011 Joplin tornado.[3]

 

[flacaltenn]

Well today I just found out that this is the 2nd hottest july on record for WI. With the remaining time and cool front coming in, it looks like it won't beat 1921 and it barely beat the third place July from the 1930's... can't remember the year.

Plus this now badly needed rain is hitting the state lessening the drought and possibly allowing farmers to salvage SOME of the corn crops.

We'll see.

Hey -- let's throw out some more inflammatory AND USELESS anecdotal weather incidents..

This past June was the WETTEST JUNE ON RECORD for London..

Take that -- you fear-mongerers...

Thank you for such an abysmally stupid post, Flatulance.

Of course that fact that the June temperature, according to Dr. Spencer was higher than any month recorded prior to 1997 is just a minor point.

In fact, the bottom of the running mean for this the last La Nina period, 2010 through the first four months of 2012, is higher than any of the running mean highs prior to 1998.

Now we are supposed to enter an El Nino period sometime between now and September. Things are going to get very interesting.

I figured that "absymally stupid" would be something you might understand. It is a valid factoid with the power of NULLIFYING certain factoids that you have proposed to bolster your "end is near" agenda.. Nothing more -- nothing less..

I got tired of all the "gee is it hot in here?" , and the Art Bell - like "certainly this is the Quickening occuring NOW" statements about weather -- so I decided to submit one of my own..

 

[flacaltenn]

No need to resort to the paranoid supernatural fantasies that seem to make up the foundations of most politically conservative thought processes, all that is required is the understanding that more energy retained in the planet's environment means that the distribution of this energy throughout the environment is going to result in either more storm systems or stronger storm systems (possibly even both). Either way, you increase the odds of damage and the degree of damage when such odds are actualized. Simple physics and statistics.

Nope.. Name me a year where 4 mid-size US city centers were hit in the same season..

I was responding to your fear-mongering article quoting dollar damages that said..

The number of events that produced on the order of $1 billion or more in damages in 2011 is the largest since tracking of that statistic began in 1980, even after damages are adjusted for inflation. NOAA estimates that there were at least 14 such events in 2011. (The previous record was nine, set in 2008; an average year would see three or four.) Collectively, the 14 events resulted in approximately $55 billion in damage.2 Furthermore, many events produced less than $1 billion in damage, but are not included in the tally, although they collectively represent additional significant financial losses. Why did we see such expensive damage last year? There are likely a number of contributing factors, including upward trends in population and infrastructure, migration to vulnerable areas, and climate change. The contribution of each of these factors remains an important research issue.

Note -- they name 4 factors -- you LEAP to conclusions..

Number of events $1B or more are strictly based on the already low probability of an F2 or greater storm hitting a highly developed area. You fail to prove that the number, intensity or type of storms was influenced by "more energy in the system".

Rate and distribution of "highly developed areas" plays more into the dollar-wise damage than a measly 0.5W/m2 increase in surface energy..

I'll wait for you to locate the years when that many city centers were leveled instead of cow pastures or a roadside fruit stand.

Just like Katrina -- there was a GIANT LEAP to the megaphones to pronounce the effects of a 1degC rise in surface temperature had created an age of constant destruction.. You and Ole Rocks and the profane SpongePuppet (who is STILL #1 on my ignore list) will be doing this nonsense for another 150 years before you have a case. Got the stamina? I'd go buy a few cases of "5 Hour Energy" and Red Bull to get you thru..

The two worst years for the number of tornados have been in the last decade. Only one year exceeded the death toll of 2011, and that was due to one tornado, the Tri-State Tornado.

Tornadoes of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This page documents the tornadoes and tornado outbreaks of 2011. Extremely destructive tornadoes form most frequently in the U.S., Bangladesh and Eastern India, but they can occur almost anywhere under the right conditions. Tornadoes also appear regularly in neighboring southern Canada during the Northern Hemisphere's summer season, and somewhat regularly in Europe, Asia, and Australia.

There were 1,897 tornadoes reported in the US in 2011 (of which 1,704 were confirmed). 2011 was an exceptionally destructive and deadly year for tornadoes; worldwide, at least 577 people perished due to tornadoes: 12 in Bangladesh, two in South Africa, one in New Zealand, one in the Philippines, one in Russia, one in Canada, and an estimated 553 in the United States (compared to 564 US deaths in the prior ten years combined).[2] Due mostly to several extremely large tornado outbreaks in the middle and end of April and in late May, the year finished well above average in almost every category, with six EF5 tornadoes and nearly enough total tornado reports to eclipse the mark of 1,817 tornadoes recorded in in 2004, the current record year for total number of tornadoes.

553 confirmed fatalities is also the second-most tornadic deaths in a single year for tornadoes in US history. This total is due in large part to the 325 tornadic deaths that occurred during the April 25–28, 2011 tornado outbreak across the Southeastern United States and the 158 tornadic deaths in the 2011 Joplin tornado.[3]

Worse in terms of DEATHS and MONEY -- but random in the paths they chose to take to destroy CITY CENTERS.. You really need to drop this pretense that random tornado tracks aligned directly with the centers of Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, Joplin and other cities in 2011 had ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with a 1 or 2 degree rise in temperature..

List of tornadoes striking downtown areas of large cities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is a list of tornadoes that have impacted the central business district (downtown or city centre) of a large city (that is, one having at least 50,000 people, not counting suburbs or outlying communities, at the time of the storm).

It is a common myth that tornadoes do not strike downtown areas. The odds are much lower due to the small areas covered, but paths can go anywhere, including over downtown areas. St. Louis, Missouri has taken a direct hit four times in less than a century[1] and Windsor, Ontario, Canada was also struck four times in 70 years. Many of the tornadoes listed were extremely destructive or caused numerous casualties, and the occurrence of a catastrophic event somewhere is inevitable.[2]


EF3 Raleigh, North Carolina[1][138] April 16, 2011 6 April 14–16, 2011 tornado outbreak

EF3 Fayetteville, North Carolina[139] April 16, 2011 2 April 14–16, 2011 tornado outbreak

EF2 Wilson, North Carolina[140] April 16, 2011 0 April 14–16, 2011 tornado outbreak

EF3 Jacksonville, North Carolina[141] April 16, 2011 0 (40+ injured) April 14–16, 2011 tornado outbreak

EF4 Tuscaloosa - Birmingham, Alabama April 27, 2011 64 (1500+ injured) April 25–28, 2011 tornado outbreak

EF2 La Crosse, Wisconsin[142] May 22, 2011 0 May 21–26, 2011 tornado outbreak sequence

EF5 Joplin, Missouri[143] May 22, 2011 158 (1150+ injured) 2011 Joplin tornado (May 21–26, 2011 tornado outbreak sequence)

EF1 Minneapolis, Minnesota[144] May 22, 2011 2 (30 injured) May 21–26, 2011 tornado outbreak sequence

EF3 Springfield, Massachusetts[145] June 1, 2011 3 (200 injured) 2011 New England tornado outbreak

Out of the 1200 tornadoes reported in 2011 ---- these few storms account for the vast majority of the cost and injuries.. And there hasn't been a targeted assault on populated areas like this in one year in recorded weather history...

 

[Old Rocks]

Hey -- let's throw out some more inflammatory AND USELESS anecdotal weather incidents..

This past June was the WETTEST JUNE ON RECORD for London..

Take that -- you fear-mongerers...

Thank you for such an abysmally stupid post, Flatulance.

Of course that fact that the June temperature, according to Dr. Spencer was higher than any month recorded prior to 1997 is just a minor point.

In fact, the bottom of the running mean for this the last La Nina period, 2010 through the first four months of 2012, is higher than any of the running mean highs prior to 1998.

Now we are supposed to enter an El Nino period sometime between now and September. Things are going to get very interesting.

I figured that "absymally stupid" would be something you might understand. It is a valid factoid with the power of NULLIFYING certain factoids that you have proposed to bolster your "end is near" agenda.. Nothing more -- nothing less..

I got tired of all the "gee is it hot in here?" , and the Art Bell - like "certainly this is the Quickening occuring NOW" statements about weather -- so I decided to submit one of my own..

Nice little strawman there, Flatulance. Show me where I have ever posted that the 'end is near'? What we are discussing are the effects of GHGs on our agriculture and environment in a world with over 7 billion people in it.

When the affects on agriculter are severe enough, that population number will be reduced in an unpleasant manner. When the environment changes enough, rapidly, there are many extinctions in the natural environment.

All of these effects are unpleasant and not in our interests at all.

 

[bobgnote]

You'll stop breathing,[sic] before I stop breathing, TakeAShitinyerHat.

You'll be sucking cock in traffic,[sic] and you'll choke, or some car will nail you and your trick.

Learn English or (s.e.s.)get the fuck out of my country, headcase.

Eat an English teacher's shit, or pull your head out of your asshole, and eat an English teacher's shit, faggot. Heard of using a comma, between two independent clauses, each of which could be a complete sentence, if not connected, by a preposition, queerboy?

Of course, you can keep eating dog shit and sucking any old penis, but if you eat English-teacher shit, you might get your run-on sentences corrected.

It takes a really tardy punk, to try to correct proper English usage, again and again.

 

[Unkotare]

You'll stop breathing,[sic] before I stop breathing, TakeAShitinyerHat.

You'll be sucking cock in traffic,[sic] and you'll choke, or some car will nail you and your trick.

Learn English or (s.e.s.)get the fuck out of my country, headcase.

Eat an English teacher's shit, or pull your head out of your asshole,[sic] and eat an English teacher's shit, faggot. Heard of using a comma,[sic] between two independent clauses, each of which could be a complete sentence,[sic] if not connected,[sic] by a preposition, queerboy?

Of course, you can keep eating dog shit and sucking any old penis, but if you eat English-teacher shit, you might get your run-on sentences corrected.

It takes a really tardy punk, to try to correct proper English usage,[sic] again and again.

You have no idea what you are talking about, you illiterate buffoon.