Global Warming Deniers Become More Desperate By the Day

[Kosh]

And still not one AGW cult member has posted any real science to prove their religion.

Another AGW thread fail!

 

[jc456]

Global Warming Deniers Become More Desperate By the Day

More desperate grasping at straws and phantoms from the dingbat crazy denier cultists.

You are the model of desperate. Thanks for ignoring the request for the proof of the 120PPM of CO2 drives temperatures and climate. Nice to see you at least are consistent with all of your peers. still LoSiNg.........

 

[jc456]

And yet not one scientific fact posted by the AGW cult.

Not one!

Your usual delusional insanity, Klod. Facts are posted here all the time, facts are available at many sources of real science on the internet, you're just in such deep denial of reality, you pretend they don't exist.

Here's some facts for you.

Global Warming Fast Facts
National Geographic News
Updated June 14, 2007
Is It Happening?

Yes. Earth is already showing many signs of worldwide climate change.

• Average temperatures have climbed 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degree Celsius) around the world since 1880, much of this in recent decades, according to NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

• The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the dozen warmest since 1850.

• The Arctic is feeling the effects the most. Average temperatures in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia have risen at twice the global average, according to the multinational Arctic Climate Impact Assessment report compiled between 2000 and 2004.

• Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040 or earlier. Polar bears and indigenous cultures are already suffering from the sea-ice loss.

• Glaciers and mountain snows are rapidly melting—for example, Montana's Glacier National Park now has only 27 glaciers, versus 150 in 1910. In the Northern Hemisphere, thaws also come a week earlier in spring and freezes begin a week later.

• Coral reefs, which are highly sensitive to small changes in water temperature, suffered the worst bleaching—or die-off in response to stress—ever recorded in 1998, with some areas seeing bleach rates of 70 percent. Experts expect these sorts of events to increase in frequency and intensity in the next 50 years as sea temperatures rise.

• An upsurge in the amount of extreme weather events, such as wildfires, heat waves, and strong tropical storms, is also attributed in part to climate change by some experts.

Are Humans Causing It?

• "Very likely," the IPCC said in a February 2007 report.

The report, based on the work of some 2,500 scientists in more than 130 countries, concluded that humans have caused all or most of the current planetary warming. Human-caused global warming is often called anthropogenic climate change.

• Industrialization, deforestation, and pollution have greatly increased atmospheric concentrations of water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide, all greenhouse gases that help trap heat near Earth's surface. (See an interactive feature on how global warming works.)

• Humans are pouring carbon dioxide into the atmosphere much faster than plants and oceans can absorb it.

• These gases persist in the atmosphere for years, meaning that even if such emissions were eliminated today, it would not immediately stop global warming.

• Some experts point out that natural cycles in Earth's orbit can alter the planet's exposure to sunlight, which may explain the current trend. Earth has indeed experienced warming and cooling cycles roughly every hundred thousand years due to these orbital shifts, but such changes have occurred over the span of several centuries. Today's changes have taken place over the past hundred years or less.

• Other recent research has suggested that the effects of variations in the sun's output are "negligible" as a factor in warming, but other, more complicated solar mechanisms could possibly play a role.

What's Going to Happen?

A follow-up report by the IPCC released in April 2007 warned that global warming could lead to large-scale food and water shortages and have catastrophic effects on wildlife.

• Sea level could rise between 7 and 23 inches (18 to 59 centimeters) by century's end, the IPCC's February 2007 report projects. Rises of just 4 inches (10 centimeters) could flood many South Seas islands and swamp large parts of Southeast Asia.

• Some hundred million people live within 3 feet (1 meter) of mean sea level, and much of the world's population is concentrated in vulnerable coastal cities. In the U.S., Louisiana and Florida are especially at risk.

• Glaciers around the world could melt, causing sea levels to rise while creating water shortages in regions dependent on runoff for fresh water.

• Strong hurricanes, droughts, heat waves, wildfires, and other natural disasters may become commonplace in many parts of the world. The growth of deserts may also cause food shortages in many places.

• More than a million species face extinction from disappearing habitat, changing ecosystems, and acidifying oceans.

• The ocean's circulation system, known as the ocean conveyor belt, could be permanently altered, causing a mini-ice age in Western Europe and other rapid changes.

• At some point in the future, warming could become uncontrollable by creating a so-called positive feedback effect. Rising temperatures could release additional greenhouse gases by unlocking methane in permafrost and undersea deposits, freeing carbon trapped in sea ice, and causing increased evaporation of water.

oh, please if facts are all over the internet, please show us one. Yep that one that shows that 120 PPM of CO2 drives climate/ temperatures? Please we've all been waiting. You're so smart you have them right?

 

[jc456]

Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

Skook once more posts a survey of Alberta tar sands petroleum engineers, and pretends that it represents scientists worldwide.

He's been busted doing it before. He doesn't care. Deniers consider it a competition, who can lie most brazenly on behalf of the cult. Deniers are usually socialists, and everyone knows the dishonest history of socialists.

So dude, still waiting on that experiment. And, how warm is 120 PPM of CO2? What about 50 PPM, or, how much heat does one individual contribute? do you know? What is it you have that you think you have an answer? NoThInG

 

[jc456]

Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

Skook once more posts a survey of Alberta tar sands petroleum engineers, and pretends that it represents scientists worldwide.

He's been busted doing it before. He doesn't care. Deniers consider it a competition, who can lie most brazenly on behalf of the cult. Deniers are usually socialists, and everyone knows the dishonest history of socialists.

So dude, still waiting on that experiment. And, how warm is 120 PPM of CO2? What about 50 PPM, or, how much heat does one individual contribute? do you know? What is it you have that you think you have an answer? NoThInG

Still Waiting..............THIS THREAD L O S T

 

[saveliberty]

Faithers can't even prove the Earth is heating up without manipulating the data. Also can't separate what is natural CO2 exchange from man made. Then you still have to show the human additions make any real difference. The whole thing was a scheme to fund research, by poor scientists and a few ambitious investors.

 

[jc456]

Faithers can't even prove the Earth is heating up without manipulating the data. Also can't separate what is natural CO2 exchange from man made. Then you still have to show the human additions make any real difference. The whole thing was a scheme to fund research, by poor scientists and a few ambitious investors.

As every thread prior to this one by the k00ks, it is just another L O S T argument. They have zero proof of any of what they speak other than the earth warmed over the past hundred of thousands of years. Yep, it's why we can survive today. The ice melted because the earth warmed from the ice age. Seems like they don't understand that.

 

[RollingThunder]

Worst winter in fifty years for most of the Northern US in 2013-14.

So what, moron.....SO WHAT???

The entire USA only covers about 2% of the Earth's surface,and the northeast part of the country is only a small fraction of that.

So you're so stupid you think cold weather in your backyard 'proves' there's no global warming? LOL.

So your head is so far up your ass that you're ignorant about what is happening in the rest of the country, let alone the world? Jerk it out!

National Overview - May 2014 - Climate Highlights
NOAA
The May contiguous U.S. average temperature was 61.2°F, 1.0°F above the 20th century average, tying as the 32nd warmest May on record.

A large portion of the central U.S. had temperatures near the 20th century average, while above-average temperatures were observed along the West Coast and the East Coast. California tied its ninth warmest May on record, with a statewide temperature 3.9°F above average. This marked the seventh consecutive month with above-average temperatures for California.

According to the June 3 U.S. Drought Monitor report, 37.3 percent of the contiguous U.S. was in drought, down about 1.1 percent compared to the end of April. Both improvement and degradation of drought conditions occurred on the regional scale. Beneficial rain improved drought conditions across parts of Texas, Nebraska, and Iowa. In Texas, despite the short-term precipitation relief, extreme and exceptional drought coverage in the state is five times greater than at the start of the calendar year. Drought conditions worsened in parts of Kansas and Oklahoma. The long- and short-term dry conditions across the Southern Plains and the West helped fuel several large wildfires that threatened homes during May.

The average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during spring was 51.1°F, 0.2°F above the 20th century average, ranking near the middle among all springs in the 120-year period of record.

Above-average spring temperatures were observed from the Rockies, westward. The California statewide average temperature tied with 2013 as the fifth warmest spring on record with a seasonal temperature 4.1°F above the 20th century average. Each season since the winter of 2012/13 has been warmer than average in California.

Alaska had its eighth warmest spring on record, with a seasonal temperature 3.1°F above the 1971-2000 average. The spring heat in Alaska peaked in May, which was the state's sixth warmest in the 1918-2014 record. Many locations across the state, including Anchorage, King Salmon, and Kodiak, had their warmest May on record. Alaska also had its 25th driest spring on record, with a precipitation total 14.7 percent below the 1971-2000 average. The combination of a warm and dry spring contributed to the state having its smallest May snow cover extent in the 48-year period of record.

During the first five months of 2014, above-average temperatures were widespread in the West. Five states had one of their 10 warmest starts to the year. California's January-May temperature of 55.2°F was 5.0°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest such period for the state.

Interesting that you use the same methology as I did, but its okay when you do it.

WOW! You really are THAT stupid! You made an idiotic statement about some colder weather in the Northeast this last winter, implying that that somehow discredited the fact that the Earth is warming. I pointed out how small the area you mentioned is compared to the just the rest of the country, let alone the whole world. I then gave you some examples of other areas of this country that experienced hotter weather last year. I did not claim that any weather is, in itself, direct evidence of AGW. I just balanced your retarded claims about the significance of some cooler weather in one small area of the planet with some evidence of the warmer than average temperatures that prevailed elsewhere. Would you like some more evidence that your cherry-picking of one small area with cooler temperatures is bogus?

2013 State of the Climate: Earth’s surface temperature
NOAA
July 12, 2014
Surface temperatures in 2013 were warmer than average across most of the world. Notably, Australia had its warmest year since national records began in 1910. Far-western Asia and the far-western Pacific Ocean also saw record-high average temperatures. At the same time, a swath of central North America, the Pacific Ocean west of South America and along the equator, and a few other isolated locations saw cooler-than-average temperatures.

The year 2013 ranked within the top 10 years for the frequency of warm days and in the bottom 10 years for the frequency of cool days. More warm days than average occurred over large parts of Europe, central and east Asia, and Australia, while fewer warm days than average were observed over central North America. Regional and global average time series of these statistics suggest that the increase in warm day frequency and decrease in cool night frequency is part of a long-term trend.

Multiple long-term records of Earth’s average temperature (different colored lines) since the late nineteenth century show a similar pattern: year to year variability combined with a long-term warming trend. The lines shows how far above or below the 1981–2010 average (dashed line at zero) the combined land and ocean temperature has been each year since 1880. Graph adapted from Figure 2.1, in BAMS State of the Climate in 2013.

Globally-averaged surface temperature for 2013 was 0.36 - 0.38° Fahrenheit above the 1981–2010 average, placing it among the top 10 warmest years since record-keeping began. Depending on the dataset considered, the year ranked from second to sixth warmest among the 134 years on record. Relative warming of the equatorial Pacific from cooler-than-average La Niña conditions to ENSO-neutral conditions helped elevate global average temperature slightly above the two previous years.

Since 1976, every year including 2013 has had an average global temperature above the long-term average. Over this 37-year period, temperature warmed at an average of 0.50 °F (0.28 °C) per decade over land and 0.20 °F (0.11 °C) per decade over the ocean.

To calculate global average temperature, four independent teams accessed air temperatures from weather stations on land and sea surface temperatures collected by ships and buoys. Each team used their own methods to analyze and merge the land and ocean datasets to estimate annual temperature for the whole globe. Though their methods differ, all four analyses are in close agreement.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Gigantor says, "Trolling Blunder is a KoOk, sOn"

 

[saveliberty]

Why use ships when you have satellites? Unless you want very specific locations to report...

As far as US weather goes, ocean currents are a big factor. Also, why no CO2 data collection when these temps are gathered? Seems like you would want to make a connection.

 

[RollingThunder]

Why use ships when you have satellites? Unless you want very specific locations to report...

As far as US weather goes, ocean currents are a big factor. Also, why no CO2 data collection when these temps are gathered? Seems like you would want to make a connection.

Idiotically ignorant drivel from an anti-science denier cultist.

ATMOSPHERIC CO2
Scripps Institution of Oceanography - University of California at San Diego
Measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentration in our program began in 1957 at La Jolla, California and at the South Pole, and in 1958 at Mauna Loa Observatory. These measurements were gradually extended during the 1960's and 1970's to comprise sampling at an array of stations from the Arctic to Antarctica.

 

[saveliberty]

Why use ships when you have satellites? Unless you want very specific locations to report...

As far as US weather goes, ocean currents are a big factor. Also, why no CO2 data collection when these temps are gathered? Seems like you would want to make a connection.

Idiotically ignorant drivel from an anti-science denier cultist.

Really?

Please scienitifically explain why fewer data points is better than more.
How do you replicate locations for future data collection on the ocean with the same times?
Render evidence ocean currents don't influence temperatures.
Why locational CO2 readings do not aid in this research.

 

[jc456]

Why use ships when you have satellites? Unless you want very specific locations to report...

As far as US weather goes, ocean currents are a big factor. Also, why no CO2 data collection when these temps are gathered? Seems like you would want to make a connection.

He has no idea of what the thread is about. He is just here to layout his knowledge of insults he's received over the course of his message board existence. He is good at it eh? He has no knowledge of anything else, but he's good at insults.

 

[saveliberty]

I'd say he's just bitter about life in a wheelchair. Aka rolling thunder.

 

[jc456]

I'd say he's just bitter about life in a wheelchair. Aka rolling thunder.

definitely a bitter person. But he may not know any other life. He didn't even make an attempt to debate any of it, he ran right into the insults hat and started posting his stash. Sad to be LoSiNg eh?

 

[saveliberty]

Yep, he be unscientifical and stuff.

Stop whining and buy stock in CREE, if you think GW is a foregone conclusion RT.

 

[mamooth]

The deniers certainly are getting more shrill. You can see it here, the same small handful of kooks having the same meltdowns over and over.

The SS Denier has run into the iceberg of facts, and is taking on water. Some of the passengers are rearranging deck chairs, some are abandoning ship, some are standing there numbly as they accept their fate, and some are screaming hysterically.

 

[jc456]

The deniers certainly are getting more shrill. You can see it here, the same small handful of kooks having the same meltdowns over and over.

The SS Denier has run into the iceberg of facts, and is taking on water. Some of the passengers are rearranging deck chairs, some are abandoning ship, some are standing there numbly as they accept their fate, and some are screaming hysterically.

And yet here you are with no experimental evidence to show what 120 PPM of CO2 does to climate. Where is that at Mommoth!!!!!! WiNniNg

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'd say he's just bitter about life in a wheelchair. Aka rolling thunder.

Rolling is just nuts, like Liz Warren nuts. There's something really wrong with him. And he's not crazy in a funny way either

 

[RollingThunder]

The deniers certainly are getting more shrill. You can see it here, the same small handful of kooks having the same meltdowns over and over.

The SS Denier has run into the iceberg of facts, and is taking on water. Some of the passengers are rearranging deck chairs, some are abandoning ship, some are standing there numbly as they accept their fate, and some are screaming hysterically.

It is indeed quite amusing to watch their desperate antics as they become increasingly irrelevant.