Global Ice loss accelerating.

As I asked on the other thread, who do you believe has stated that the Earth warms and cools as a whole?

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Everyone who answers


Sun or Co2

to the question of what causes Earth climate change, since both are PLANETARY variables....

Neither explains what FROZE GREENLAND and MELTED NORTH AMERICA at the SAME TIME


Only the correct answer explains that....
 
Everyone who answers


Sun or Co2

to the question of what causes Earth climate change, since both are PLANETARY variables....

Neither explains what FROZE GREENLAND and MELTED NORTH AMERICA at the SAME TIME


Only the correct answer explains that....
Why aren't you answering my question?
 
Why aren't you answering my question?


Did answer it. YOUR SIDE claims it is a planetary affect, that the planet warms or cools based on Co2 concentration in the atmosphere...

That theory is WRONG, and you do not like it being outed as wrong, so you pretend a question was not answered when it was...



WHAT FROZE GREENLAND AND THAWED NORTH AMERICA AT THE SAME TIME?


Co2 - no

Sun - no

???????????????
 
Did answer it. YOUR SIDE claims it is a planetary affect, that the planet warms or cools based on Co2 concentration in the atmosphere...

That theory is WRONG, and you do not like it being outed as wrong, so you pretend a question was not answered when it was...



WHAT FROZE GREENLAND AND THAWED NORTH AMERICA AT THE SAME TIME?


Co2 - no

Sun - no

???????????????
You are incredibly stupid. Buh-bye.
 
For the purposes of Earth climate change, the Sun is a constant, and did not melt NA and freeze Greenland at the same time.

As with JFK, those behind the fraud put out false "conspiracy theories" and the "solar cycle" is one of them.

Earth does not warm and cool as a whole. Ice ages are continent specific.
wrong, the sun has cycles (called sunspots) when more radiation (heat) is dispersed into the solar system. So the sun does affect the climate of mother earth.
The earth also wobbles a degree or two on its axis which affects climate, then there are the changes in ocean currents which affect the climate in parts of earth and not others, which may answer your greeland/NA question.

The fraud is the climate religion and their ideas that the acts of humans can cause, reverse, or change the climate of our planet. We can and do pollute it, but we, short of all our nuclear war, cannot change it. And even in the event of nuclear war, the changes would be temporary in the life of the planet.
 
wrong, the sun has cycles (called sunspots) when more radiation (heat) is dispersed into the solar system. So the sun does affect the climate of mother earth.
The earth also wobbles a degree or two on its axis which affects climate, then there are the changes in ocean currents which affect the climate in parts of earth and not others, which may answer your greeland/NA question.

The fraud is the climate religion and their ideas that the acts of humans can cause, reverse, or change the climate of our planet. We can and do pollute it, but we, short of all our nuclear war, cannot change it. And even in the event of nuclear war, the changes would be temporary in the life of the planet.
Keep in mind that the changes we have wrought have taken over a century of unchecked GHG emissions.

Do accept that CO2 and the other greenhouse gases absorb and radiate infrared energy?

Do you accept that CO2 has a lifespan in the atmosphere measured in centuries?

Do you accept the estimates for the total amount of CO2 that humans have released into the atmosphere?

Do you accept the Keeling curve measurements of the atmospheric level of CO2.

If your answers to these questions are all yes, then you need to rethink your conclusions. Feelings are not the proper route to take when good numbers are available.
 
Keep in mind that the changes we have wrought have taken over a century of unchecked GHG emissions.

Do accept that CO2 and the other greenhouse gases absorb and radiate infrared energy?

Do you accept that CO2 has a lifespan in the atmosphere measured in centuries?

Do you accept the estimates for the total amount of CO2 that humans have released into the atmosphere?

Do you accept the Keeling curve measurements of the atmospheric level of CO2.

If your answers to these questions are all yes, then you need to rethink your conclusions. Feelings are not the proper route to take when good numbers are available.
CO2 makes up .059% of the atmosphere today, based on ice core samples and fossils, it was at that same concentration 50,000 years ago. CO2 is not causing AGW or climate change or ocean rise or polar ice melt. In fact, none of those things are actually happening at all. your prophet, the great all-knowing Algore, lied in his book that you idiots paid for and made him very rich. Useful idiots applies.
 
Keep in mind that the changes we have wrought have taken over a century of unchecked GHG emissions.

Do accept that CO2 and the other greenhouse gases absorb and radiate infrared energy?

Do you accept that CO2 has a lifespan in the atmosphere measured in centuries?

Do you accept the estimates for the total amount of CO2 that humans have released into the atmosphere?

Do you accept the Keeling curve measurements of the atmospheric level of CO2.

If your answers to these questions are all yes, then you need to rethink your conclusions. Feelings are not the proper route to take when good numbers are available.
you left out cow farts, and dinosaur farts, and pig farts, and human farts. all pollutants, right?
 
CO2 makes up .059% of the atmosphere today
It's current level is 420 ppmV which means it makes up 0.042%
based on ice core samples and fossils, it was at that same concentration 50,000 years ago.
That is incorrect.
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CO2 is not causing AGW or climate change or ocean rise or polar ice melt.
That is incorrect. Global warming is taking place, the poles are melting, seas are rising, the climate is changing. Intense study of the possible forcing mechanisms have shown unequivocally that human CO2 emissions are the primary cause.
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In fact, none of those things are actually happening at all. your prophet, the great all-knowing Algore, lied in his book that you idiots paid for and made him very rich. Useful idiots applies.
Al Gore... There are ten thousand scientists doing research and publishing studies who all conclude that AGW is an accurate description of what is happening, but you think you should talk about Al Gore. Don't argue against science with gossip magazine bullshit. Try actual science. If you can't do that, don't do anything at all. You're just wasting our time.
 
From the polar caps to the glaciers of Europe, Asia and South America, global warming is melting the planet’s ice faster than ever and speeding the inundation of the world’s coastlines.

New research shows the annual melt rate grew from 0.8 trillion tons in the 1990s to 1.3 trillion tons by 2017, and has accelerated most in the places with the most ice—the Greenland and Antarctic ice shelves and sheets.

Those massive systems of land and sea-based ice are melting as fast as the worst-case climate scenarios in major global climate reports, said Thomas Slater, a co-author of the new study in The Cryosphere that measured the meltdown from 1994 to 2017, which covers a timespan when every decade was warmer than the previous one and also includes the 20 warmest years on record.




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Thank Heaven’s we have a wonderful new President who is taking this threat seriously.
What else did the media tell you?
 
What else did the media tell you?
Do you think reporters have gone to the poles to measure melt rates? Better reporting, which is not that hard to find, includes links to the actual studies from which they get these numbers.

I would encourage anyone posting here, with a link to a science news story, to see if the story has a link to the supporting study and, if so, post that link as well... if not instead.
 
It's current level is 420 ppmV which means it makes up 0.042%

That is incorrect.
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That is incorrect. Global warming is taking place, the poles are melting, seas are rising, the climate is changing. Intense study of the possible forcing mechanisms have shown unequivocally that human CO2 emissions are the primary cause.
E8Wdif7UcAEVjzg.jpg


Al Gore... There are ten thousand scientists doing research and publishing studies who all conclude that AGW is an accurate description of what is happening, but you think you should talk about Al Gore. Don't argue against science with gossip magazine bullshit. Try actual science. If you can't do that, don't do anything at all. You're just wasting our time.
figures don't lie, but liars figure. you just proved that old axiom. Those charts are THEORIES, nothing more. The link between CO2 and temperature is a THEORY, not a scientific fact. But continue to believe the theories if they somehow make you feel good and justified. You probably still wear a mask when alone in your car, there is no hope for you cult followers.
 
It's current level is 420 ppmV which means it makes up 0.042%

That is incorrect.
CO2_0-50k_yrs.gif

Temperature-change-over-the-past-400-000-years-correlate-closely-with-variations-in.png


1_Global_Page13-e.png


That is incorrect. Global warming is taking place, the poles are melting, seas are rising, the climate is changing. Intense study of the possible forcing mechanisms have shown unequivocally that human CO2 emissions are the primary cause.
E8Wdif7UcAEVjzg.jpg


Al Gore... There are ten thousand scientists doing research and publishing studies who all conclude that AGW is an accurate description of what is happening, but you think you should talk about Al Gore. Don't argue against science with gossip magazine bullshit. Try actual science. If you can't do that, don't do anything at all. You're just wasting our time.
Gore started this bullshit, discredit him if you like but he is the father of your cult. Actually the climate science community is divided roughly 50/50 on AGW or "man made climate change", since the warming THEORY has been proven false.
 
It's current level is 420 ppmV which means it makes up 0.042%

That is incorrect.
CO2_0-50k_yrs.gif

Temperature-change-over-the-past-400-000-years-correlate-closely-with-variations-in.png


1_Global_Page13-e.png


That is incorrect. Global warming is taking place, the poles are melting, seas are rising, the climate is changing. Intense study of the possible forcing mechanisms have shown unequivocally that human CO2 emissions are the primary cause.
E8Wdif7UcAEVjzg.jpg


Al Gore... There are ten thousand scientists doing research and publishing studies who all conclude that AGW is an accurate description of what is happening, but you think you should talk about Al Gore. Don't argue against science with gossip magazine bullshit. Try actual science. If you can't do that, don't do anything at all. You're just wasting our time.
where exactly is the thermometer that measures global temperature?
 
Do you think reporters have gone to the poles to measure melt rates? Better reporting, which is not that hard to find, includes links to the actual studies from which they get these numbers.

I would encourage anyone posting here, with a link to a science news story, to see if the story has a link to the supporting study and, if so, post that link as well... if not instead.
What I think is you're full of shit.
 
figures don't lie, but liars figure. you just proved that old axiom. Those charts are THEORIES, nothing more.
Those charts are data from empirical observations.
The link between CO2 and temperature is a THEORY, not a scientific fact.
It is a strenuously correlated observation supported by numerous studies showing the absorption and transmissions characteristics of CO2.
But continue to believe the theories if they somehow make you feel good and justified.
I would suggest you start paying attention to very-well-accepted theories like AGW before such willful ignorance leads you to some sort of personal disaster. A rejection of the theory of momentum, for instance, could lead you into walking in front of a bus. A rejection of the theory of gravity could lead you to stepping off a cliff. A rejection of Ohm's law could lead to electrocution. You're still with us, so I suspect that there are lots and lots and lots of scientific theories with no more acceptance than AGW that you believe whole-heartedly. Why is that?
You probably still wear a mask when alone in your car, there is no hope for you cult followers.
If you think so, why do you post here?
 
Those charts are data from empirical observations.

It is a strenuously correlated observation supported by numerous studies showing the absorption and transmissions characteristics of CO2.

I would suggest you start paying attention to very-well-accepted theories like AGW before such willful ignorance leads you to some sort of personal disaster. A rejection of the theory of momentum, for instance, could lead you into walking in front of a bus. A rejection of the theory of gravity could lead you to stepping off a cliff. A rejection of Ohm's law could lead to electrocution. You're still with us, so I suspect that there are lots and lots and lots of scientific theories with no more acceptance than AGW that you believe whole-heartedly. Why is that?

If you think so, why do you post here?
You're really twisted. Like most leftist vermin.
 
Gore started this bullshit, discredit him if you like but he is the father of your cult. Actually the climate science community is divided roughly 50/50 on AGW or "man made climate change", since the warming THEORY has been proven false.
That is incorrect. The fundamental science behind the idea that gases could absorb energy from sunlight was brought out by Jospepch Fourier in 1820. The idea that CO2, specifically, could warm the planet was developed and published by Eunice Newton Foote in 1856. She was followed in that work by John Tyndall in 1859, Svante Arrhenius in 1896. A steam engineer and amateur scientist named Guy Stewart Callender was the first to propose that industrial CO2 emissions had already warmed the planet in 1938.

So, no, Al Gore did not start this.

The climate science community is not 50/50 on this. The warming theory has not been proven false. I would love, however, to see some links to the sources that tell you such things. Could you put them up here?
 

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