Give a man a fish.......

[rightwinger]

So I guess your solution, like most from conservatives is bullshit to pander to your base

I want you to fish where there are no fish
Move to better fishing holes when you have no way to move and you will not be welcome at the new fishing hole when you get there

I'm not stupid enough to fish where the fish aren't located. I'm also not one of those who thinks because I don't have something, someone else should hand it to me.

Seems I was correct about you. You don't want to find a way but you'll find plenty of excuses. Those who make excuses are rarely good for anything else. You've proven you're good for nothing.

Conservative Darwinism

Personal responsibility and a practiced belief that no one owes me a damn thing simply because I don't have it.

I know.....you are one of those who NEVER received any help from anyone

You are a credit to us all

There isn't a single person that hasn't had some form of help in their lifetime. However, there is a difference between help someone gives voluntarily and being forced to help another person. I don't have a problem with one person helping another and doing so of their own volition. I do have a problem when someone asks for help, is told no, then gets the government to force it from those telling them no. The former isn't of the belief that it's owed. The latter is.

Government is there to do what needs doing
Helping those who need help....needs doing

Did you go to public school?

 

[boedicca]

I'm not stupid enough to fish where the fish aren't located. I'm also not one of those who thinks because I don't have something, someone else should hand it to me.

Seems I was correct about you. You don't want to find a way but you'll find plenty of excuses. Those who make excuses are rarely good for anything else. You've proven you're good for nothing.

Conservative Darwinism

Personal responsibility and a practiced belief that no one owes me a damn thing simply because I don't have it.

I know.....you are one of those who NEVER received any help from anyone

You are a credit to us all

There isn't a single person that hasn't had some form of help in their lifetime. However, there is a difference between help someone gives voluntarily and being forced to help another person. I don't have a problem with one person helping another and doing so of their own volition. I do have a problem when someone asks for help, is told no, then gets the government to force it from those telling them no. The former isn't of the belief that it's owed. The latter is.

Government is there to do what needs doing
Helping those who need help....needs doing

Did you go to public school?

Utter nonsense and socialist spin.

Government, despite Dear Leader's o'babble, is not what we call the things we do together.

Government DOES NOT DO what needs to be done. Government mostly takes money from those who do things and transfers it to those who do not do things.

 

[Conservative65]

I'm not stupid enough to fish where the fish aren't located. I'm also not one of those who thinks because I don't have something, someone else should hand it to me.

Seems I was correct about you. You don't want to find a way but you'll find plenty of excuses. Those who make excuses are rarely good for anything else. You've proven you're good for nothing.

Conservative Darwinism

Personal responsibility and a practiced belief that no one owes me a damn thing simply because I don't have it.

I know.....you are one of those who NEVER received any help from anyone

You are a credit to us all

There isn't a single person that hasn't had some form of help in their lifetime. However, there is a difference between help someone gives voluntarily and being forced to help another person. I don't have a problem with one person helping another and doing so of their own volition. I do have a problem when someone asks for help, is told no, then gets the government to force it from those telling them no. The former isn't of the belief that it's owed. The latter is.

Government is there to do what needs doing
Helping those who need help....needs doing

Did you go to public school?

Government should do what it's delegated to do not just what entitlement minded people who don't want to do for themselves think it should do

If you think they need help, reach into your damn pocket and do it.

I did. My parents have been paying for them for over 30 years after I finished and have put far more into them than it costs for me to go.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

Wow.. jut wow... you've really outdone yourself with this one.

 

[2aguy]

I think that old Republican proverb goes like this; Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. But drop him stranded and alone in the desert, never have to feed him again.

Well put

It is the GOP strategy to cut aid and then tell people to get a job if they don't like it

Of course, the fact that there are no jobs is not the GOPs problem

as it is shown over and over that conservatives give more time and money to helping their fellow man in need than the democrats and the left do..........

 

[defcon4]

Government is there to do what needs doing
Helping those who need help....needs doing

Does government generate money on its own? No??? Then it needs to take somebody else's first. Ah…. I see.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Conservative Darwinism

Personal responsibility and a practiced belief that no one owes me a damn thing simply because I don't have it.

I know.....you are one of those who NEVER received any help from anyone

You are a credit to us all

There isn't a single person that hasn't had some form of help in their lifetime. However, there is a difference between help someone gives voluntarily and being forced to help another person. I don't have a problem with one person helping another and doing so of their own volition. I do have a problem when someone asks for help, is told no, then gets the government to force it from those telling them no. The former isn't of the belief that it's owed. The latter is.

Government is there to do what needs doing
Helping those who need help....needs doing

Did you go to public school?

Utter nonsense and socialist spin.

Government, despite Dear Leader's o'babble, is not what we call the things we do together.

Government DOES NOT DO what needs to be done. Government mostly takes money from those who do things and transfers it to those who do not do things.

I'm not stupid enough to fish where the fish aren't located. I'm also not one of those who thinks because I don't have something, someone else should hand it to me.

Seems I was correct about you. You don't want to find a way but you'll find plenty of excuses. Those who make excuses are rarely good for anything else. You've proven you're good for nothing.

Conservative Darwinism

Personal responsibility and a practiced belief that no one owes me a damn thing simply because I don't have it.

I know.....you are one of those who NEVER received any help from anyone

You are a credit to us all

There isn't a single person that hasn't had some form of help in their lifetime. However, there is a difference between help someone gives voluntarily and being forced to help another person. I don't have a problem with one person helping another and doing so of their own volition. I do have a problem when someone asks for help, is told no, then gets the government to force it from those telling them no. The former isn't of the belief that it's owed. The latter is.

Government is there to do what needs doing
Helping those who need help....needs doing

Did you go to public school?

That is not the role of government and no, I did not go to public school which means my parents not only paid for me to go to school but paid for others as well. And none of my kids went to public schools.. I wouldn't let them near those dumps.

 

[healthmyths]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

A) When there are no fish in our ancestors time they moved to where the fish were.
B) Then when you go to where the fish are you catch the fish with your hands again the way it was done before poles.
C) If you go where the fish are there will be no "only members" signs.

In other words you move to areas like North Dakota, Texas i.e. states where on every corner there are "help wanted" signs.
Get hired then buy a pole and go fishing.

In other words what did you do before there was a "government"? You took care of yourself.

If welfare families start showing up in Texas and North Dakota are they going to welcome them to their fishing hole?

Absolutely! There are so many help wanted signs in stores,etc. and of course in Texas,et.al. you have to work to eat so selection of the fittest comes into play in Texas etc., and these people thinking they are continue on welfare will not be tolerated.

 

[healthmyths]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

Then you go where fish are.

Find a bleeding heart that claims to have compassion for you and see if they truly believe what they say so they'll buy it for you.

Become a member.

There are plenty of ways to overcome. Sad part, too many rely on the government to do it. If someone wants to do something, they'll find a way. If they don't, they'll find an excuse or someone to blame then get the government to force someone else to do for them what they should get off their asses and do for themselves. it's easy to see with one you are. The latter.

Thats a great idea!

But of course you are willing to help people relocate to new areas aren't you?

You're the one that thinks he deserves help. YOU do it for him.

So I guess your solution, like most from conservatives is bullshit to pander to your base

I want you to fish where there are no fish
Move to better fishing holes when you have no way to move and you will not be welcome at the new fishing hole when you get there

boo...hoo... I'm so moved!
There are jobs in Detroit that people don't take and why? They make more from welfare!

 

[Conservative65]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

Then you go where fish are.

Find a bleeding heart that claims to have compassion for you and see if they truly believe what they say so they'll buy it for you.

Become a member.

There are plenty of ways to overcome. Sad part, too many rely on the government to do it. If someone wants to do something, they'll find a way. If they don't, they'll find an excuse or someone to blame then get the government to force someone else to do for them what they should get off their asses and do for themselves. it's easy to see with one you are. The latter.

Thats a great idea!

But of course you are willing to help people relocate to new areas aren't you?

You're the one that thinks he deserves help. YOU do it for him.

So I guess your solution, like most from conservatives is bullshit to pander to your base

I want you to fish where there are no fish
Move to better fishing holes when you have no way to move and you will not be welcome at the new fishing hole when you get there

boo...hoo... I'm so moved!
There are jobs in Detroit that people don't take and why? They make more from welfare!

When the skills people offer is one step above what a monkey could be trained to do, it's not a shock they get more for doing nothing than they could earn working. Sad situations.

 

[Decus]

Thank God government has always been there to save us. The idea of self-reliance, personal responsibility, and other such foolish notions should be banned from public discourse.

As an example: the Confucian family values in China drive individuals towards making efforts to ensure that the next generation of the family will be better off - all members of the family contribute/sacrifice to ensure this. They do not rely on government. Sadly with an attitude like this those poor bastards can never hope to become a world power.

Hard to believe but the Chinese "know how to fish".

Ouch.

.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservative Darwinism

Personal responsibility and a practiced belief that no one owes me a damn thing simply because I don't have it.

I know.....you are one of those who NEVER received any help from anyone

You are a credit to us all

There isn't a single person that hasn't had some form of help in their lifetime. However, there is a difference between help someone gives voluntarily and being forced to help another person. I don't have a problem with one person helping another and doing so of their own volition. I do have a problem when someone asks for help, is told no, then gets the government to force it from those telling them no. The former isn't of the belief that it's owed. The latter is.

Government is there to do what needs doing
Helping those who need help....needs doing

Did you go to public school?

Utter nonsense and socialist spin.

Government, despite Dear Leader's o'babble, is not what we call the things we do together.

Government DOES NOT DO what needs to be done. Government mostly takes money from those who do things and transfers it to those who do not do things.

Spoken like a true anarchist

Like it or not,Government is....We the People

 

[rightwinger]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

A) When there are no fish in our ancestors time they moved to where the fish were.
B) Then when you go to where the fish are you catch the fish with your hands again the way it was done before poles.
C) If you go where the fish are there will be no "only members" signs.

In other words you move to areas like North Dakota, Texas i.e. states where on every corner there are "help wanted" signs.
Get hired then buy a pole and go fishing.

In other words what did you do before there was a "government"? You took care of yourself.

If welfare families start showing up in Texas and North Dakota are they going to welcome them to their fishing hole?

Absolutely! There are so many help wanted signs in stores,etc. and of course in Texas,et.al. you have to work to eat so selection of the fittest comes into play in Texas etc., and these people thinking they are continue on welfare will not be tolerated.

Great to see Texas welcoming all those welfare families from other states

When can we start sending them?

 

[rightwinger]

Conservative Darwinism

Personal responsibility and a practiced belief that no one owes me a damn thing simply because I don't have it.

I know.....you are one of those who NEVER received any help from anyone

You are a credit to us all

There isn't a single person that hasn't had some form of help in their lifetime. However, there is a difference between help someone gives voluntarily and being forced to help another person. I don't have a problem with one person helping another and doing so of their own volition. I do have a problem when someone asks for help, is told no, then gets the government to force it from those telling them no. The former isn't of the belief that it's owed. The latter is.

Government is there to do what needs doing
Helping those who need help....needs doing

Did you go to public school?

Government should do what it's delegated to do not just what entitlement minded people who don't want to do for themselves think it should do

If you think they need help, reach into your damn pocket and do it.

I did. My parents have been paying for them for over 30 years after I finished and have put far more into them than it costs for me to go.

Glad to see you enjoyed the free education your community provided you

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

 

[rightwinger]

Then you go where fish are.

Find a bleeding heart that claims to have compassion for you and see if they truly believe what they say so they'll buy it for you.

Become a member.

There are plenty of ways to overcome. Sad part, too many rely on the government to do it. If someone wants to do something, they'll find a way. If they don't, they'll find an excuse or someone to blame then get the government to force someone else to do for them what they should get off their asses and do for themselves. it's easy to see with one you are. The latter.

Thats a great idea!

But of course you are willing to help people relocate to new areas aren't you?

You're the one that thinks he deserves help. YOU do it for him.

So I guess your solution, like most from conservatives is bullshit to pander to your base

I want you to fish where there are no fish
Move to better fishing holes when you have no way to move and you will not be welcome at the new fishing hole when you get there

boo...hoo... I'm so moved!
There are jobs in Detroit that people don't take and why? They make more from welfare!

When the skills people offer is one step above what a monkey could be trained to do, it's not a shock they get more for doing nothing than they could earn working. Sad situations.

Conservative social service

 

[Roadrunner]

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

This is one of the cornerstones of conservatism today. Self determination. No "free stuff". Who could have a problem with such a basic principle of society? Why don't Liberals get it?

But what happens when there are no fish where you live?
What happens if you can't afford a pole, tackle and a license?
What happens when you go to fish and are told......."Only members are allowed to fish here"

This is where government comes in. The idea that once you have taught people to fish, your job is done does not always work in a society. Sometimes we need government to break dowmn barriers to fishing

God got Sam Kinison.

EOM

 

[Roadrunner]

..that's quite profound, little partisan.

You got it all figured out.

If all the energy and resources devoted to apologizing for and subsidising bad life choices were devoted to educating people that citizens had a duty and responsibility to prepare for life, and take care of themselves, we could eliminate most poverty in a generation.

Continued dependence is the sole hope of the Democrat party, so, I expect no change.

Roadrunner I'm on your side.
I was replying to the OP.
I should have used the quote function. Sorry for my confusion.

Gotcha!

 

[jon_berzerk]

A democrat will let you fish all day,let you fill your boat
and when you get to shore he will find a way to charge you
with some EPA violation and will confiscate the fish the rod and reel and the boat
and throw a nice hefty fine at your ass.

The problem at hand seems to be that the opportunities to fish are not the same for all people

Learn to fish is easy advice to give when you live next to a well stocked fishing hole with few other fisherment

Try it in a pond where the fish left years ago and nobody is welcoming you to fish in their pond

then be like everyone else

move another fucking pond

 

[Impenitent]

RWs are against "free stuff" until they want it for themselves.

They're also in favor of a huge government, controlling the most personal and private aspects of our lives.

And, as we saw most recently in Texass, they're quick to call for government help.

The poorest counties in America are by and large the blackest counties.

This holds true in Red AND Blue states.

After 150 years as special wards of the Federal government, dating back to the Freedmen's Bureau, you'd think blacks would have a little more to show for generations of loyal dependency and Dem bloc voting.

The Freedman's Bureau was a Republican agency. You seem to remember that when taking credit for granting civil right to blacks, but it slips from your minds when placing blame.