Gingrich: Palestinians an ‘invented’ people

Georgia was originally set up, as the last colony, for debtors.
Not criminals although in some areas of England owing debt was a low crime.
But debtors were not considered criminals.
A distinguished member of Parliament, James Oglethorpe, settled Georgia.
Gingrich is not a native of Georgia.
 
"The 1948 Palestinian exodus, known in Arabic as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة*, an-Nakbah, lit. 'disaster', 'catastrophe', or 'cataclysm'),[1] occurred when approximately 711,000 to 725,000 Palestinian Arabs left, fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War."

Some non-Jews expelled from their homes left at the point of a bayonet.
Arab homes, businesses, and bank accounts were "annexed" by the Jewish State in 1948.
Area C is the next step in Jewish annexation of all of Mandate Palestine between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River.
Gingrich won't care about that either because he's well-paid to lie about how the Jewish State came into existence.

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wiki articles are biased.
Is that all you can offer? A Wiki article?
Beyond weak.
Point out any specific bias or errors in the link I posted.
Then justify one-third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine imposing a Jewish State by force of arms on a majority of Palestinians in 1948.
If you need any intellectual vigor, ask $heldon:

"Sheldon Gary Adelson (born August 4, 1933) is an American business magnate. He is the chairman and chief executive officer of the Las Vegas Sands Corporation, the parent company of Venetian Macao Limited which operates The Venetian Resort Hotel Casino and the Sands Expo and Convention Center.

"He also owns the Israeli daily newspaper Israel HaYom. Adelson's initial public offering of Las Vegas Sands occurred in December 2004. He is listed in the Forbes 400 as the eighth wealthiest American.[1] His personal wealth is estimated to be $24.9 billion as of March 2012.[1]

Sheldon Adelson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Newt and Sheldon couldn't profit from killing they're too gutless to get close to without moral midgets, like you and Mitt.
 
"The 1948 Palestinian exodus, known in Arabic as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة*, an-Nakbah, lit. 'disaster', 'catastrophe', or 'cataclysm'),[1] occurred when approximately 711,000 to 725,000 Palestinian Arabs left, fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War."

Some non-Jews expelled from their homes left at the point of a bayonet.
Arab homes, businesses, and bank accounts were "annexed" by the Jewish State in 1948.
Area C is the next step in Jewish annexation of all of Mandate Palestine between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River.
Gingrich won't care about that either because he's well-paid to lie about how the Jewish State came into existence.

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hey George, do you know anything about THE WAR going on there in 1948?
Who attacked who?
Who was attacking Israel?
What did the Arab states say about the few Palestinians in Isreal at the time of the attack?
What was that war about? The Palestinians?:lol::lol::lol:
Fact is the Arabs that attacked Israel HAD EVERY INTENTION OF RUNNING OFF THE PALESTINIANS ALSO.
Persians HATE AND DESPISE Palestinians. Arabs have them at the bottom of their caste system.
A thorough understanding of the history, culture and religous beliefs of the region is required in this discussion.
You have mastered NONE of them.

The war began with the locals in 1947 right after the UN General Assembly voted on the Partition Plan which then was scheduled to go back to the Security Council. The surrounding Arab states sent irregular troops in to try and stop the Jewish Militias from taking over the so-called Arab Section. The Militia worked like your typical schoolyard bully. Push the geeks enough to get them to fight back and then cream them. (or kick them out of their village and then destroy it). Furthermore many Arabs (those that could) left before the war started and were still not allowed to return.
 
When Israel struck Iraq's nuclear reactor, it might very well have initiated Saddam's nuclear program instead of ending it. Something similar that Newt approves of could happen next month.

"The NAM (Non Aligned Movement) delegates doubtless recognize the threat that dominates discussion in the West, lucidly articulated by Gen. Lee Butler, former head of the U.S. Strategic Command: 'It is dangerous in the extreme that in the cauldron of animosities that we call the Middle East,' one nation should arm itself with nuclear weapons, which 'inspires other nations to do so.'

"Butler is not referring to Iran, but to Israel, which is regarded in the Arab countries and in Europe as posing the greatest threat to peace In the Arab world, the United States is ranked second as a threat..."

Noam Chomsky: Why America and Israel Are the Greatest Threats to Peace | Alternet
 
"The 1948 Palestinian exodus, known in Arabic as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة*, an-Nakbah, lit. 'disaster', 'catastrophe', or 'cataclysm'),[1] occurred when approximately 711,000 to 725,000 Palestinian Arabs left, fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War."

Some non-Jews expelled from their homes left at the point of a bayonet.
Arab homes, businesses, and bank accounts were "annexed" by the Jewish State in 1948.
Area C is the next step in Jewish annexation of all of Mandate Palestine between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River.
Gingrich won't care about that either because he's well-paid to lie about how the Jewish State came into existence.

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hey George, do you know anything about THE WAR going on there in 1948?
Who attacked who?
Who was attacking Israel?
What did the Arab states say about the few Palestinians in Isreal at the time of the attack?
What was that war about? The Palestinians?:lol::lol::lol:
Fact is the Arabs that attacked Israel HAD EVERY INTENTION OF RUNNING OFF THE PALESTINIANS ALSO.
Persians HATE AND DESPISE Palestinians. Arabs have them at the bottom of their caste system.
A thorough understanding of the history, culture and religous beliefs of the region is required in this discussion.
You have mastered NONE of them.

The war began with the locals in 1947 right after the UN General Assembly voted on the Partition Plan which then was scheduled to go back to the Security Council. The surrounding Arab states sent irregular troops in to try and stop the Jewish Militias from taking over the so-called Arab Section. The Militia worked like your typical schoolyard bully. Push the geeks enough to get them to fight back and then cream them. (or kick them out of their village and then destroy it). Furthermore many Arabs (those that could) left before the war started and were still not allowed to return.

NO, the war started when the Arabs passed their resolution to end Isreal.
And the Jewish Militias formed to stop that.
Arabs led the sniper teams that started this shooting school children and women shoppers.
And those bully Jews objected to that and defended themselves.
How terrible of them.
They blockaded the Jews in Jerusalem with their Arab Liberation Army and death squads sent in from Egypt called the Army of the Holy War.
Facts sure are a bitch to you ideologues.
The entire Jewish population were under strict guidelines to stay put while the Arab militant murderers were given free passage to leaveif they wanted to.
And guess why they left? Because they knew that the British were going to support additional partitions where the Palestinian ARABS would be annexed by TransJordan.
And those were the folks that persecuted the Palestinians, their own Arab "brothers".
Same today, they hate the Palestinians second only to the Jews.
The upper and middle class Arabs are the ones that fled Jerusalem and surrounding areas. Why? They hate Palestinians and did not want to take the chance of them gaining ground and being equal to them.
 
See if you can deal with these facts:

In 1948 Jews composed one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine.
They owned around 16% of the land.
The UN Partition Plan awarded the Jews 55% of the land of Mandate Palestine.
What would you have done if land your ancestors had lived on for generations was gifted to the "Chosen People", applied for citizenship?
 
See if you can deal with these facts:

In 1948 Jews composed one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine.
They owned around 16% of the land.
The UN Partition Plan awarded the Jews 55% of the land of Mandate Palestine.
What would you have done if land your ancestors had lived on for generations was gifted to the "Chosen People", applied for citizenship?

Exactly the point.

Imagine these two conversations.

Conversation 1-

Liberal- "what happened to African Americans with slavery was wrong."

African Americans- "Damn Straight!"

Liberal- "As a result, we are going to tax conservatives at a 70% rate to pay you reparations."

Conservatives- "What the fuck?"


Converstation 2

UN - "What Hilter did to Jews was wrong.

Jewish Population - "Damn Straight!"

UN - "As a result, we are going to give you half the Palestinian Mandate."

People already living there who've live there for centruies - "What the fuck!"
 
Hey George, do you know anything about THE WAR going on there in 1948?
Who attacked who?
Who was attacking Israel?
What did the Arab states say about the few Palestinians in Isreal at the time of the attack?
What was that war about? The Palestinians?:lol::lol::lol:
Fact is the Arabs that attacked Israel HAD EVERY INTENTION OF RUNNING OFF THE PALESTINIANS ALSO.
Persians HATE AND DESPISE Palestinians. Arabs have them at the bottom of their caste system.
A thorough understanding of the history, culture and religous beliefs of the region is required in this discussion.
You have mastered NONE of them.

The war began with the locals in 1947 right after the UN General Assembly voted on the Partition Plan which then was scheduled to go back to the Security Council. The surrounding Arab states sent irregular troops in to try and stop the Jewish Militias from taking over the so-called Arab Section. The Militia worked like your typical schoolyard bully. Push the geeks enough to get them to fight back and then cream them. (or kick them out of their village and then destroy it). Furthermore many Arabs (those that could) left before the war started and were still not allowed to return.

NO, the war started when the Arabs passed their resolution to end Isreal.
And the Jewish Militias formed to stop that.
Arabs led the sniper teams that started this shooting school children and women shoppers.
And those bully Jews objected to that and defended themselves.
How terrible of them.
They blockaded the Jews in Jerusalem with their Arab Liberation Army and death squads sent in from Egypt called the Army of the Holy War.
Facts sure are a bitch to you ideologues.
The entire Jewish population were under strict guidelines to stay put while the Arab militant murderers were given free passage to leaveif they wanted to.
And guess why they left? Because they knew that the British were going to support additional partitions where the Palestinian ARABS would be annexed by TransJordan.
And those were the folks that persecuted the Palestinians, their own Arab "brothers".
Same today, they hate the Palestinians second only to the Jews.
The upper and middle class Arabs are the ones that fled Jerusalem and surrounding areas. Why? They hate Palestinians and did not want to take the chance of them gaining ground and being equal to them.

You are such an IDIOT........This whole diatribe above is a complete lie.

There is something completely Evil in the poster above,he/she/It is a complete CRETIN.

The Jordanians never hated the Palestinians......in fact the present Queen of Jordan is Palestinian and very well respected world wide.


Time to stop using YOUR SORRY ASS as your BRAIN,DICKHEAD,:clap2::clap2:
 
See if you can deal with these facts:

In 1948 Jews composed one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine.
They owned around 16% of the land.
The UN Partition Plan awarded the Jews 55% of the land of Mandate Palestine.
What would you have done if land your ancestors had lived on for generations was gifted to the "Chosen People", applied for citizenship?

SO 2 THIRDS WAS PALESTINIANS..........AND 84% of the land was Palestinian

Yet they the Jews got 55% of the land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Jews should return to their original homeland...BABYLON (now part of Iraq)

George why are you such a ZIONIST TERRORIST TWAT:lol::badgrin:
 
No, 1948 is not a deadline. It's an historical fact. It's the date Israel became a nation with official borders that issue passports and citizenship. There is no corresponding date for the nation of "Palestine" because it never happened.

That's the problem. Israel doesn't have official borders. It's never subscribed to the notion that it had any borders with Palestine. At most, there have been divisions based on the fact that here Jewish residency generally stops and Palestinian residency generally begins. But Israel has spend its history repeatedly crossing these "borders," and insisting it has the right to set up new settlements.

BTW, Palestine issues its own passports to its citizens. So what's the difference between the two? They both have indeterminate, disputed borders, both issue passports to its citizens, both were recognized by the UN as having the right to exist, both have declared independence. I'm not seeing any difference.

Here is the difference
As of 1997, Palestinian authorities had not issued a passport in the name of the State of Palestine.

While the United States Government recognizes Palestinian Authority passports as travel documents, it does not view them as conferring citizenship, since they are not issued by a government which the US recognizes. Egypt, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates have indicated only (in May 2002) that the passports, along with valid visas or other necessary papers, would allow their holders to travel to their countries.
 
The war began with the locals in 1947 right after the UN General Assembly voted on the Partition Plan which then was scheduled to go back to the Security Council. The surrounding Arab states sent irregular troops in to try and stop the Jewish Militias from taking over the so-called Arab Section. The Militia worked like your typical schoolyard bully. Push the geeks enough to get them to fight back and then cream them. (or kick them out of their village and then destroy it). Furthermore many Arabs (those that could) left before the war started and were still not allowed to return.

NO, the war started when the Arabs passed their resolution to end Isreal.
And the Jewish Militias formed to stop that.
Arabs led the sniper teams that started this shooting school children and women shoppers.
And those bully Jews objected to that and defended themselves.
How terrible of them.
They blockaded the Jews in Jerusalem with their Arab Liberation Army and death squads sent in from Egypt called the Army of the Holy War.
Facts sure are a bitch to you ideologues.
The entire Jewish population were under strict guidelines to stay put while the Arab militant murderers were given free passage to leaveif they wanted to.
And guess why they left? Because they knew that the British were going to support additional partitions where the Palestinian ARABS would be annexed by TransJordan.
And those were the folks that persecuted the Palestinians, their own Arab "brothers".
Same today, they hate the Palestinians second only to the Jews.
The upper and middle class Arabs are the ones that fled Jerusalem and surrounding areas. Why? They hate Palestinians and did not want to take the chance of them gaining ground and being equal to them.

You are such an IDIOT........This whole diatribe above is a complete lie.

There is something completely Evil in the poster above,he/she/It is a complete CRETIN.

The Jordanians never hated the Palestinians......in fact the present Queen of Jordan is Palestinian and very well respected world wide.


Time to stop using YOUR SORRY ASS as your BRAIN,DICKHEAD,:clap2::clap2:

That lived in Kuwait and she buys 22 carat gold shoes with diamonds in them. The Queen lives in New York, spends most of her time on Fifth Avenue there and occasionally makes appearances in Jordan. The KIng married her for show only.
And the last Queen was AMERICAN.
Her husband, the KING is in the minority in Jordan Moe where OVER 90% ARE PALESTINIANS.
If she loves her people so much how come they hold NO POWER in a country where they are 90%+ of the population.
While the majority of Jordanian Palestinians live in poverty and a very low standard of living because they are BANNED from taking professional jobs there the Queen hired an Indian jeweler at about 2 milliona year American to make those gold shoes with diamonds in it.
The monarchy in Jordan is as corrupt as it gets. They treat Palestinians as 3rd class citizens with no right to vote, no rights to hold any office and no rights to own property in most all of Jordan.
Try again MOE. Next time bring something other than BS.
I feel very sorry for you MOE. You have no experience on this subject and know nothing about the politics and religous culture of the region.
 
In the 12 governorships in Jordan there is NO Palestinian serving yet they are a majority in every one.
Jordanian Palestinians have additional tarrifs on vehicles that average 200% of the value of the vehicle.
Jordanian Palestinians have a fixed 16% sales tax, a very high corporate tax and high income tax.
Their fellow Bedouin ruling Hashemite monarchists pay NONE OF THIS.

Palestinians in Jordan have NO access to competitive education, NO political power and are restricted to be in any area of society there other than business.
Palestinians in Jordan, hundreds of thousands of them, work in Isreal and tens of thousands of them LIVE in Isreal holding residency permits there. Many Palestinians also hold Jerusalem Residency cards which entitled them to STATE BENEFITS FROM ISRAEL.
And yes, the discriminatory policies that Jordan practices harshly on the Palestinians have been over looked by us in the west. Why? Because the PLO has been the beating heart of the Palestinian politics and if they were empowered by the west then they would topple the Hashemite monarcy in Jordan transforiming Jordan to yet another springboard for terrorist attacks on Isreal.
King Hussein knew all to well that Yasser Arafat and the PLO were doing everything and anything possible in the 70s to assasinate him and take power in Jordan. The 1970 Black September War where Hussein expelled the PLO from Jordan and thousands of Palestinians were slaughtered by Hussein and the Bedouin Army proved that.
Amazing the lack of simple HISTORY in this which is ignored and pushed aside by the IDEOLOGUES.

Stay tuned for more facts.
 
See if you can deal with these facts:

In 1948 Jews composed one third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine.
They owned around 16% of the land.
The UN Partition Plan awarded the Jews 55% of the land of Mandate Palestine.
What would you have done if land your ancestors had lived on for generations was gifted to the "Chosen People", applied for citizenship?

SO 2 THIRDS WAS PALESTINIANS..........AND 84% of the land was Palestinian

Yet they the Jews got 55% of the land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Jews should return to their original homeland...BABYLON (now part of Iraq)

George why are you such a ZIONIST TERRORIST TWAT:lol::badgrin:
A tsunami of Chomsky?

"In May,(2011) in a closed meeting of many of Israel's business leaders, Idan Ofer, a holding-company magnate, warned, 'We are quickly turning into South Africa. The economic blow of sanctions will be felt by every family in Israel.'

"The business leaders' particular concern was the U.N. General Assembly session this September, where the Palestinian Authority is planning to call for recognition of a Palestinian state.

"Dan Gillerman, Israel's former ambassador to the United Nations, warned participants that 'the morning after the anticipated announcement of recognition of a Palestinian state, a painful and dramatic process of Southafricanization will begin' -- meaning that Israel would become a pariah state, subject to international sanctions.

"In this and subsequent meetings, the oligarchs urged the government to initiate efforts modeled on the Saudi (Arab League) proposals and the unofficial Geneva Accord of 2003, in which high-level Palestinian and Israeli negotiators detailed a two-state settlement that was welcomed by most of the world, dismissed by Israel and ignored by Washington."

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20110707.htm

The oligarchs dodged the bullet in 2011, but eventually they will have to choose between occupation and democracy.
 
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NO, the war started when the Arabs passed their resolution to end Isreal.
And the Jewish Militias formed to stop that.
Arabs led the sniper teams that started this shooting school children and women shoppers.
And those bully Jews objected to that and defended themselves.
How terrible of them.
They blockaded the Jews in Jerusalem with their Arab Liberation Army and death squads sent in from Egypt called the Army of the Holy War.
Facts sure are a bitch to you ideologues.
The entire Jewish population were under strict guidelines to stay put while the Arab militant murderers were given free passage to leaveif they wanted to.
And guess why they left? Because they knew that the British were going to support additional partitions where the Palestinian ARABS would be annexed by TransJordan.
And those were the folks that persecuted the Palestinians, their own Arab "brothers".
Same today, they hate the Palestinians second only to the Jews.
The upper and middle class Arabs are the ones that fled Jerusalem and surrounding areas. Why? They hate Palestinians and did not want to take the chance of them gaining ground and being equal to them.

You are such an IDIOT........This whole diatribe above is a complete lie.

There is something completely Evil in the poster above,he/she/It is a complete CRETIN.

The Jordanians never hated the Palestinians......in fact the present Queen of Jordan is Palestinian and very well respected world wide.


Time to stop using YOUR SORRY ASS as your BRAIN,DICKHEAD,:clap2::clap2:

That lived in Kuwait and she buys 22 carat gold shoes with diamonds in them. The Queen lives in New York, spends most of her time on Fifth Avenue there and occasionally makes appearances in Jordan. The KIng married her for show only.
And the last Queen was AMERICAN.
Her husband, the KING is in the minority in Jordan Moe where OVER 90% ARE PALESTINIANS.
If she loves her people so much how come they hold NO POWER in a country where they are 90%+ of the population.
While the majority of Jordanian Palestinians live in poverty and a very low standard of living because they are BANNED from taking professional jobs there the Queen hired an Indian jeweler at about 2 milliona year American to make those gold shoes with diamonds in it.
The monarchy in Jordan is as corrupt as it gets. They treat Palestinians as 3rd class citizens with no right to vote, no rights to hold any office and no rights to own property in most all of Jordan.
Try again MOE. Next time bring something other than BS.
I feel very sorry for you MOE. You have no experience on this subject and know nothing about the politics and religous culture of the region.
Do you have any links for your "facts" like the one about 90% of Jordanians being Palestinian?

"Native Jordanians are mostly descended from people of villagers and Bedouin descent originating in the Arabian Peninsula.[3] In addition, there's Jordanian minorities like the Circassians, Chechens, Arameans and Armenians. However, there are a number of other ethnicities present, including communities of Kurds, Assyrians and Mandeans which are refugees from the 2003 Iraqi war.

"According to UNRWA, there are 1,951,603 Palestinian refugees in Jordan as of June 2008, 31.5% of Jordan's population.[4] Though that number doesn't include all Jordanians from Palestinian descent. Probably not even most of them.

"There are also approximately one million Iraqis currently residing in the country.

"Also, hundreds of thousands of guest workers from Egypt, Syria, Indonesia, and South Asia work as domestic and construction employees."

Demographics of Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Isreal is far from perfect. Israel SPIES ON US as their military industrial spy rings stretch world wide. We have Isreali spies in prison here NOW.
But does Isreal call for death of the infidels?
Does Isreal call for the destruction of all of the Arab and Persian countries in their charter or constitution?
Does Isreal provide the only real democracy in the region?
Does Isreal partner with the US for intelligence brokering in one of the most if not THE MOST important region in the world?
 
You are such an IDIOT........This whole diatribe above is a complete lie.

There is something completely Evil in the poster above,he/she/It is a complete CRETIN.

The Jordanians never hated the Palestinians......in fact the present Queen of Jordan is Palestinian and very well respected world wide.


Time to stop using YOUR SORRY ASS as your BRAIN,DICKHEAD,:clap2::clap2:

That lived in Kuwait and she buys 22 carat gold shoes with diamonds in them. The Queen lives in New York, spends most of her time on Fifth Avenue there and occasionally makes appearances in Jordan. The KIng married her for show only.
And the last Queen was AMERICAN.
Her husband, the KING is in the minority in Jordan Moe where OVER 90% ARE PALESTINIANS.
If she loves her people so much how come they hold NO POWER in a country where they are 90%+ of the population.
While the majority of Jordanian Palestinians live in poverty and a very low standard of living because they are BANNED from taking professional jobs there the Queen hired an Indian jeweler at about 2 milliona year American to make those gold shoes with diamonds in it.
The monarchy in Jordan is as corrupt as it gets. They treat Palestinians as 3rd class citizens with no right to vote, no rights to hold any office and no rights to own property in most all of Jordan.
Try again MOE. Next time bring something other than BS.
I feel very sorry for you MOE. You have no experience on this subject and know nothing about the politics and religous culture of the region.
Do you have any links for your "facts" like the one about 90% of Jordanians being Palestinian?

"Native Jordanians are mostly descended from people of villagers and Bedouin descent originating in the Arabian Peninsula.[3] In addition, there's Jordanian minorities like the Circassians, Chechens, Arameans and Armenians. However, there are a number of other ethnicities present, including communities of Kurds, Assyrians and Mandeans which are refugees from the 2003 Iraqi war.

"According to UNRWA, there are 1,951,603 Palestinian refugees in Jordan as of June 2008, 31.5% of Jordan's population.[4] Though that number doesn't include all Jordanians from Palestinian descent. Probably not even most of them.

"There are also approximately one million Iraqis currently residing in the country.

"Also, hundreds of thousands of guest workers from Egypt, Syria, Indonesia, and South Asia work as domestic and construction employees."

Demographics of Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why don't you back up what you say?
You told me TO PROVE YOUR statements wrong so follow your own rules.
UNICEF has it at 87%.
 
87% of Jordanian children are Palestinian?

Even if your number is more accurate than mine, we wouldn't be having this debate if one third of the population of Mandate Palestine had not imposed a Jewish State on the majority in 1948.
 
The Syrians, Jordanians, the Mubarak regime, the Saudis, the Pakistanis, the current government in Afghanistan and the Kuwaitis FEAR THE PALESTINIANS more than they do Isreal.
Is Isreal attempting to take over and topple monarchies and dicatorships?
Amazing how ignorant of current history many Americans are.
 

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