Gillum annihilated DeSantis in Florida's governor's debate.

For anyone who wants to deal in facts, here is the entire debate.



Oh! That damn Gillium is pushing the green energy BS. No go for him!

People haven't forgotten all the wasted crops from Obama doing it.


He is going to raise taxes and somehow force “green energy” on the state.

It’s pretty amazing to see what he plans on forcing on the state rather than letting the market move to renewalable energy.

He will not give criminal illegal aliens over to ICE. He supports abolishing ICE. He admitted these things.


Automatic no-go and that means not many Cubans will vote for him.
 
The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.

I watched the whole thing. Both performed ok. I doubt either performance will change anyone’s minds.

Doesn’t seem like you watched it or you would actually have more specific insights.

From the other thread:

As a Floridian by birth and a current resident, this race will have an affect on my day to day life. I watched the entire debate.

CNN framed every question to put DeSantis on the defensive. I thought he did ok.

Gillum played the race card, of course.

Desantis seemed effective with his blasting of Gillum on the current crime rate in Tally, but it’s a shame that candidates can’t just plainly lay out their platforms and inform voters as to why they SHOULD vote for them...rather than why they shouldn’t vote for the other guy.

There is way too much of that going on in the country today and CNN helped stoke those fires tonight, as did both candidates.

Desantis’ rebuttle on the racist thing was weak, I thought. He should have blasted the shit out of Gillum for calling him a racist...Desantis was too kind.


Gillum did not do well with talking about the FBI investigation of his campaign treasurer and going to Hamilton and Costa Rica with an FBI CI.

Ouch.

Also, Gillum said Trump should be impeached and admitted to obstructing Justice was pretty weak.

We know you hate Trump, but to say he should be impeached before the investigation is even over shows how he would govern. (Not sure what that has to do with the Florida Governorship, but CNN brought up Trump)

Funny, Trump has a pretty nice home in Florida as I recall.
Gilum refuses to answer DeSantis on whether he will cooperate with law on immigration in CNN debate


Why don’t you break down the debate question by question analyze the specific answers? It’s because you didn’t watch it.

Wrong. Gillum embarrassed Desantis when it came to the red tide issue, environmental issues, preexisting conditions and Trump. But beyond that was the optics. Desantis did not come across well at all. Gillum was relaxed and Desantis was nervous and appeared at times unsteady.

Gillum did a decent job of neutralizing the allegations against him. Given the level of corruption in Washington and the Trump administration a couple of Hamilton tickets does not seem a big deal. However, Desantis should have been more persistent.

Given that Desantis was a Harvard educated lawyer I would have expected his debating skills to have been better honed.

Optics matter.

You read a summary. You didn’t watch it.

Watch it from the link I posted and answer with specificity.

Anyone can write what you wrote.

What did you think of the crowd reaction? What specific questions did they cheer for? When did they start applauding and cheering? Which side started cheering first and for what answer by what candidate?

What did Jake Tapper say to the audience when they started to cheer?
 
The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.

I saw that too, and I agree Gillum won the debate hands down.
 
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The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.

I watched the whole thing. Both performed ok. I doubt either performance will change anyone’s minds.

Doesn’t seem like you watched it or you would actually have more specific insights.

From the other thread:

As a Floridian by birth and a current resident, this race will have an affect on my day to day life. I watched the entire debate.

CNN framed every question to put DeSantis on the defensive. I thought he did ok.

Gillum played the race card, of course.

Desantis seemed effective with his blasting of Gillum on the current crime rate in Tally, but it’s a shame that candidates can’t just plainly lay out their platforms and inform voters as to why they SHOULD vote for them...rather than why they shouldn’t vote for the other guy.

There is way too much of that going on in the country today and CNN helped stoke those fires tonight, as did both candidates.

Desantis’ rebuttle on the racist thing was weak, I thought. He should have blasted the shit out of Gillum for calling him a racist...Desantis was too kind.


Gillum did not do well with talking about the FBI investigation of his campaign treasurer and going to Hamilton and Costa Rica with an FBI CI.

Ouch.

Also, Gillum said Trump should be impeached and admitted to obstructing Justice was pretty weak.

We know you hate Trump, but to say he should be impeached before the investigation is even over shows how he would govern. (Not sure what that has to do with the Florida Governorship, but CNN brought up Trump)

Funny, Trump has a pretty nice home in Florida as I recall.
Gilum refuses to answer DeSantis on whether he will cooperate with law on immigration in CNN debate


Why don’t you break down the debate question by question analyze the specific answers? It’s because you didn’t watch it.

Wrong. Gillum embarrassed Desantis when it came to the red tide issue, environmental issues, preexisting conditions and Trump. But beyond that was the optics. Desantis did not come across well at all. Gillum was relaxed and Desantis was nervous and appeared at times unsteady.

Gillum did a decent job of neutralizing the allegations against him. Given the level of corruption in Washington and the Trump administration a couple of Hamilton tickets does not seem a big deal. However, Desantis should have been more persistent.

Given that Desantis was a Harvard educated lawyer I would have expected his debating skills to have been better honed.

Optics matter.

You read a summary. You didn’t watch it.

Watch it from the link I posted and answer with specificity.

Anyone can write what you wrote.

What did you think of the crowd reaction? What specific questions did they cheer for? When did they start applauding and cheering? Which side started cheering first and for what answer by what candidate?

What did Jake Tapper say to the audience when they started to cheer?

Have a time marker for that?
 
If you say it enough.....it’s true....that seems to be liberal ideology.

Gillum got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and went to Hamilton and Costa Rica with an undercover FBI agent.......Oopsie.

The murder rate in Tallahassee is at all all time high.

Gillum will raise taxes.

Gillum will not enforce immigration law.

Those are facts.

If you want Florida to become California, then vote Gillum.


Does OP live in Florida?
 
The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.

I watched the whole thing. Both performed ok. I doubt either performance will change anyone’s minds.

Doesn’t seem like you watched it or you would actually have more specific insights.

From the other thread:

As a Floridian by birth and a current resident, this race will have an affect on my day to day life. I watched the entire debate.

CNN framed every question to put DeSantis on the defensive. I thought he did ok.

Gillum played the race card, of course.

Desantis seemed effective with his blasting of Gillum on the current crime rate in Tally, but it’s a shame that candidates can’t just plainly lay out their platforms and inform voters as to why they SHOULD vote for them...rather than why they shouldn’t vote for the other guy.

There is way too much of that going on in the country today and CNN helped stoke those fires tonight, as did both candidates.

Desantis’ rebuttle on the racist thing was weak, I thought. He should have blasted the shit out of Gillum for calling him a racist...Desantis was too kind.


Gillum did not do well with talking about the FBI investigation of his campaign treasurer and going to Hamilton and Costa Rica with an FBI CI.

Ouch.

Also, Gillum said Trump should be impeached and admitted to obstructing Justice was pretty weak.

We know you hate Trump, but to say he should be impeached before the investigation is even over shows how he would govern. (Not sure what that has to do with the Florida Governorship, but CNN brought up Trump)

Funny, Trump has a pretty nice home in Florida as I recall.
Gilum refuses to answer DeSantis on whether he will cooperate with law on immigration in CNN debate


Why don’t you break down the debate question by question analyze the specific answers? It’s because you didn’t watch it.

Wrong. Gillum embarrassed Desantis when it came to the red tide issue, environmental issues, preexisting conditions and Trump. But beyond that was the optics. Desantis did not come across well at all. Gillum was relaxed and Desantis was nervous and appeared at times unsteady.

Gillum did a decent job of neutralizing the allegations against him. Given the level of corruption in Washington and the Trump administration a couple of Hamilton tickets does not seem a big deal. However, Desantis should have been more persistent.

Given that Desantis was a Harvard educated lawyer I would have expected his debating skills to have been better honed.

Optics matter.

You read a summary. You didn’t watch it.

Watch it from the link I posted and answer with specificity.

Anyone can write what you wrote.

What did you think of the crowd reaction? What specific questions did they cheer for? When did they start applauding and cheering? Which side started cheering first and for what answer by what candidate?

What did Jake Tapper say to the audience when they started to cheer?

With all due respect, you ask me to answer your inane questions about Jake Tapper and crowd reaction because you have no response to my assertions. Stop deflecting. You know damn well Desantis fell on his face. So you attack me. Typical.
 
The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.

I watched the whole thing. Both performed ok. I doubt either performance will change anyone’s minds.

Doesn’t seem like you watched it or you would actually have more specific insights.

From the other thread:

As a Floridian by birth and a current resident, this race will have an affect on my day to day life. I watched the entire debate.

CNN framed every question to put DeSantis on the defensive. I thought he did ok.

Gillum played the race card, of course.

Desantis seemed effective with his blasting of Gillum on the current crime rate in Tally, but it’s a shame that candidates can’t just plainly lay out their platforms and inform voters as to why they SHOULD vote for them...rather than why they shouldn’t vote for the other guy.

There is way too much of that going on in the country today and CNN helped stoke those fires tonight, as did both candidates.

Desantis’ rebuttle on the racist thing was weak, I thought. He should have blasted the shit out of Gillum for calling him a racist...Desantis was too kind.


Gillum did not do well with talking about the FBI investigation of his campaign treasurer and going to Hamilton and Costa Rica with an FBI CI.

Ouch.

Also, Gillum said Trump should be impeached and admitted to obstructing Justice was pretty weak.

We know you hate Trump, but to say he should be impeached before the investigation is even over shows how he would govern. (Not sure what that has to do with the Florida Governorship, but CNN brought up Trump)

Funny, Trump has a pretty nice home in Florida as I recall.
Gilum refuses to answer DeSantis on whether he will cooperate with law on immigration in CNN debate


Why don’t you break down the debate question by question analyze the specific answers? It’s because you didn’t watch it.

Wrong. Gillum embarrassed Desantis when it came to the red tide issue, environmental issues, preexisting conditions and Trump. But beyond that was the optics. Desantis did not come across well at all. Gillum was relaxed and Desantis was nervous and appeared at times unsteady.

Gillum did a decent job of neutralizing the allegations against him. Given the level of corruption in Washington and the Trump administration a couple of Hamilton tickets does not seem a big deal. However, Desantis should have been more persistent.

Given that Desantis was a Harvard educated lawyer I would have expected his debating skills to have been better honed.

Optics matter.

You read a summary. You didn’t watch it.

Watch it from the link I posted and answer with specificity.

Anyone can write what you wrote.

What did you think of the crowd reaction? What specific questions did they cheer for? When did they start applauding and cheering? Which side started cheering first and for what answer by what candidate?

What did Jake Tapper say to the audience when they started to cheer?

Have a time marker for that?

Let OP tell you, he watched the entire debate. He should know.

Right OP?
 
The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.

I saw that too, and I agree Gillum won the debate hands down.
Not even close.
 
The thread is based on my own opinion. I don't think you have to look too hard to find others of like mind.

More like hive mind. Incapable of independent thought.


Also apparently of reading the rules for posting OPs here.
 
The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.

I heard otherwise, and here's a link to match yours.

Yup. I watched it and Gillum annihilated no one.

In fact there questions Gillum wouldn't answer.
 
Partisans are funny.
Especially the ones that don't think they are and chide down about that every day, and yet are huge partisans.
Everyone who posts on this board, or any political board for that matter, is a partisan whether he admits it or not. Yourself included.
while we all feel a certain way about how things get done or should get done, that doesn't mean we lead off emotionally and call it fact.
 
The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.
Gillum got whooped...and I don't blame desantis for not answering the question about trump, how many parents want their kids to grow up to be successful businessmen or TVpersonality or president of the USA? never mind all three of those accomplishments!...do you have any idea how badly liberals despise that and attack it publicly on a daily basis? No one would want that for their kids.

Once again he is not the successful business man he pretends to be.
 
Partisans are funny.
Especially the ones that don't think they are and chide down about that every day, and yet are huge partisans.
Everyone who posts on this board, or any political board for that matter, is a partisan whether he admits it or not. Yourself included.
while we all feel a certain way about how things get done or should get done, that doesn't mean we lead off emotionally and call it fact.
This thread was based on my opinion. Others disagree which is fine. Opinion is not fact. The emotion is on the side of those that attack me personally for having my opinion by such comments as, "You did not watch the debate." That is emotion.
 
Partisans are funny.
Especially the ones that don't think they are and chide down about that every day, and yet are huge partisans.
Everyone who posts on this board, or any political board for that matter, is a partisan whether he admits it or not. Yourself included.
while we all feel a certain way about how things get done or should get done, that doesn't mean we lead off emotionally and call it fact.
This thread was based on my opinion. Others disagree which is fine. Opinion is not fact. The emotion is on the side of those that attack me personally for having my opinion by such comments as, "You did not watch the debate." That is emotion.
your entire headline of "annihilated" is what then, if not emotional?

when you have to use words like that you're not being factual or unbiased but emotional. i hate "news" articles that do that. in here i can more understand it and yes will disagree with you - but please save the "i'm not being emotional" routine when your subject header screams of EMO.
 
Partisans are funny.
Especially the ones that don't think they are and chide down about that every day, and yet are huge partisans.
Everyone who posts on this board, or any political board for that matter, is a partisan whether he admits it or not. Yourself included.
while we all feel a certain way about how things get done or should get done, that doesn't mean we lead off emotionally and call it fact.
This thread was based on my opinion. Others disagree which is fine. Opinion is not fact. The emotion is on the side of those that attack me personally for having my opinion by such comments as, "You did not watch the debate." That is emotion.
your entire headline of "annihilated" is what then, if not emotional?

when you have to use words like that you're not being factual or unbiased but emotional. i hate "news" articles that do that. in here i can more understand it and yes will disagree with you - but please save the "i'm not being emotional" routine when your subject header screams of EMO.
The verb "annihilated" was purposefully loaded. The reason I did not add a link was because it was pure opinion. You can call it emotion, but the true emotion has come from the responses not the initial post.
 
Partisans are funny.
Especially the ones that don't think they are and chide down about that every day, and yet are huge partisans.
Everyone who posts on this board, or any political board for that matter, is a partisan whether he admits it or not. Yourself included.
while we all feel a certain way about how things get done or should get done, that doesn't mean we lead off emotionally and call it fact.
This thread was based on my opinion. Others disagree which is fine. Opinion is not fact. The emotion is on the side of those that attack me personally for having my opinion by such comments as, "You did not watch the debate." That is emotion.
your entire headline of "annihilated" is what then, if not emotional?

when you have to use words like that you're not being factual or unbiased but emotional. i hate "news" articles that do that. in here i can more understand it and yes will disagree with you - but please save the "i'm not being emotional" routine when your subject header screams of EMO.
I never watch debates. They are a circus and the leftwing questioners are there to trip up conservatives, period. They never ask poingnant questions that interest the average American. They ask questions to trap a conservative so they can either take out of context or use sound bites or both. They will push their race card.


HE, HE SAID BINDER!!!!!!

We know what they are. We know where they stand. The black asshole is a socialist who wants to turn America into Commiefornia or Venezuela, where the rich socialists have it great and serf class have to fend for themselves.

We know this. I don't need to listen to their bullshit.
 
The debate was a sad spectacle for Ron Desantis. Andrew Gillum took Desantis apart. Desantis had to run from his positions, was destroyed on the red tide issue, and would not say whether Trump was a good role model for children.

I was actually surprised just how poorly Desantis performed.

It may be too early to say, but it looks increasingly like Gov. Gillum.

I watched the whole thing. Both performed ok. I doubt either performance will change anyone’s minds.

Doesn’t seem like you watched it or you would actually have more specific insights.

From the other thread:

As a Floridian by birth and a current resident, this race will have an affect on my day to day life. I watched the entire debate.

CNN framed every question to put DeSantis on the defensive. I thought he did ok.

Gillum played the race card, of course.

Desantis seemed effective with his blasting of Gillum on the current crime rate in Tally, but it’s a shame that candidates can’t just plainly lay out their platforms and inform voters as to why they SHOULD vote for them...rather than why they shouldn’t vote for the other guy.

There is way too much of that going on in the country today and CNN helped stoke those fires tonight, as did both candidates.

Desantis’ rebuttle on the racist thing was weak, I thought. He should have blasted the shit out of Gillum for calling him a racist...Desantis was too kind.


Gillum did not do well with talking about the FBI investigation of his campaign treasurer and going to Hamilton and Costa Rica with an FBI CI.

Ouch.

Also, Gillum said Trump should be impeached and admitted to obstructing Justice was pretty weak.

We know you hate Trump, but to say he should be impeached before the investigation is even over shows how he would govern. (Not sure what that has to do with the Florida Governorship, but CNN brought up Trump)

Funny, Trump has a pretty nice home in Florida as I recall.
Gilum refuses to answer DeSantis on whether he will cooperate with law on immigration in CNN debate


Why don’t you break down the debate question by question analyze the specific answers? It’s because you didn’t watch it.

Wrong. Gillum embarrassed Desantis when it came to the red tide issue, environmental issues, preexisting conditions and Trump. But beyond that was the optics. Desantis did not come across well at all. Gillum was relaxed and Desantis was nervous and appeared at times unsteady.

Gillum did a decent job of neutralizing the allegations against him. Given the level of corruption in Washington and the Trump administration a couple of Hamilton tickets does not seem a big deal. However, Desantis should have been more persistent.

Given that Desantis was a Harvard educated lawyer I would have expected his debating skills to have been better honed.

Optics matter.

You read a summary. You didn’t watch it.

Watch it from the link I posted and answer with specificity.

Anyone can write what you wrote.

What did you think of the crowd reaction? What specific questions did they cheer for? When did they start applauding and cheering? Which side started cheering first and for what answer by what candidate?

What did Jake Tapper say to the audience when they started to cheer?

Have a time marker for that?

It was kind of late, like the 45minute mark.

It’s very noticeable that both sides started applauding after each answer after having been quiet for 45minutes.
 

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