Getting rid of minority voters

[clevergirl]

Voter ID law in Florida


On Election Day, the polls are open from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. and are normally less busy during the mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

If you do not know the location of your polling place, contact your Supervisor of Elections. Also, Supervisors of Elections have precinct and polling place finders on their web sites to provide you with the information on where to vote.

At the polls, you will be asked to provide a valid picture identification with signature. The following photo ids will be accepted:

Florida driver’s license
Florida identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
United States passport
Debit or credit card
Military identification
Student identification
Retirement center identification
Neighborhood association identification
Public assistance identification.

If your photo identification does not contain your signature, you will be asked to provide an additional identification that includes a signature.

If you do not have the proper identification, you will be provided with a provisional ballot. Your provisional ballot will count if the signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on your voter registration application

 

[flacaltenn]

In order to get a state id card so you can vote in Florida you need:
Driver's license, passport, birth certificate, or naturalization papers
Social Security, W-2 or similar documents
Poof of Home Address
$25

Florida Drivers License Fees

For a Republican legislation to require that people pay $25 to vote seems just a bit obvious.

That $25 isn't for you to vote. It's for you to FUNCTION. The fact you don't get that -- means you're really not interested in the general welfare of all those folks...

 

[Flopper]

Voter ID law in Florida


On Election Day, the polls are open from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. and are normally less busy during the mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

If you do not know the location of your polling place, contact your Supervisor of Elections. Also, Supervisors of Elections have precinct and polling place finders on their web sites to provide you with the information on where to vote.

At the polls, you will be asked to provide a valid picture identification with signature. The following photo ids will be accepted:

Florida driver’s license
Florida identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
United States passport
Debit or credit card
Military identification
Student identification
Retirement center identification
Neighborhood association identification
Public assistance identification.

If your photo identification does not contain your signature, you will be asked to provide an additional identification that includes a signature.

If you do not have the proper identification, you will be provided with a provisional ballot. Your provisional ballot will count if the signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on your voter registration application

And to register, you are now required to have a photo id that is even more restrictive than that required at the polls.

 

[clevergirl]

Voter ID law in Florida


On Election Day, the polls are open from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. and are normally less busy during the mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

If you do not know the location of your polling place, contact your Supervisor of Elections. Also, Supervisors of Elections have precinct and polling place finders on their web sites to provide you with the information on where to vote.

At the polls, you will be asked to provide a valid picture identification with signature. The following photo ids will be accepted:

Florida driver’s license
Florida identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
United States passport
Debit or credit card
Military identification
Student identification
Retirement center identification
Neighborhood association identification
Public assistance identification.

If your photo identification does not contain your signature, you will be asked to provide an additional identification that includes a signature.

If you do not have the proper identification, you will be provided with a provisional ballot. Your provisional ballot will count if the signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on your voter registration application

And to register, you are now required to have a photo id that is even more restrictive than that required at the polls.

How is this more restrictive?

Identification (ID) Requirements: If you are a new applicant, state and federal law require you to provide a current and valid Florida driver’s license number (FL DL#) or Florida identification card number (FL ID#). If you have not been issued a FL DL# or FL ID#, you must then provide the last four digits of your Social Security Number (SSN). If you have not been issued any of these ID numbers, check “None” on the application. If you do not provide any number or do not check “None,” your registration may be denied. See s.303, HAVA and section 97.053(6), Fla. Stat.

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[Staidhup]

So what is the problem? Voting is a right paid for in blood, if one cannot document legal residency, citizenship, they should not be afforded the right to vote? No other country affords this right without documentation so why should we? Explain this to me please. When a person has died and or moved they should be removed from the list.

 

[flacaltenn]

Voter ID law in Florida


On Election Day, the polls are open from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. and are normally less busy during the mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

If you do not know the location of your polling place, contact your Supervisor of Elections. Also, Supervisors of Elections have precinct and polling place finders on their web sites to provide you with the information on where to vote.

At the polls, you will be asked to provide a valid picture identification with signature. The following photo ids will be accepted:

Florida driver’s license
Florida identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
United States passport
Debit or credit card
Military identification
Student identification
Retirement center identification
Neighborhood association identification
Public assistance identification.

If your photo identification does not contain your signature, you will be asked to provide an additional identification that includes a signature.

If you do not have the proper identification, you will be provided with a provisional ballot. Your provisional ballot will count if the signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on your voter registration application

And to register, you are now required to have a photo id that is even more restrictive than that required at the polls.

Really Flopster? MORE restrictive than the law that DEFINES who is eligible to vote?

Are you saying that the registrars should IGNORE THE LAW and not ask for proof of age, residency, citizenship and all the other requirements that MIGHT be in the LAW?
BTW: I personally believe all that ID needs to handled at registration.. NOT at the polling place. The only thing you should need at the polling place is your signature..

 

[tjvh]

Requiring an ID card to Vote is going to disenfranchise all of the ILLEGAL ALIENS who were prepared to vote Democrat... Fraudulently. That is the only reason Liberals take issue with the ID requirement.

 

[Harry Dresden]

According to a 2005 study by UW Milwaukee Driver License Status of Voting Age Population those without state-issued photo ID who would need to obtain one to vote include:

■23% of elderly Wisconsinites over the age of 65
■17% of white men and women
■55% of African American males and 49% of African American women
■46% of Hispanic men and 59% of Hispanic women
■78% of African American males age 18-24 and 66% of African American women age 18-24

Wisconsin Gov. Walker acts to suppress vote | The Stand

you said EVERY State Chris is making it hard to vote,now your talking ID in one State.....in California you dont need a Photo ID and you dont even need to leave the house.......all you need to do is this.....

To register to vote in California, you must be:
A United States citizen,
A resident of California,
18 years of age or older on Election Day,


•Your California driver license or identification number, if you have one, or the last four digits of your social security number, if you have one. If you do not have any of these numbers, the state will assign you a unique identification number.......

you can do this all on line or through the Mail......yea even the people you mention......

 

[Lakhota]

Florida Defies Warning To Halt Voter Purge

 

[Flopper]

Voter ID law in Florida


On Election Day, the polls are open from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. and are normally less busy during the mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

If you do not know the location of your polling place, contact your Supervisor of Elections. Also, Supervisors of Elections have precinct and polling place finders on their web sites to provide you with the information on where to vote.

At the polls, you will be asked to provide a valid picture identification with signature. The following photo ids will be accepted:

Florida driver’s license
Florida identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
United States passport
Debit or credit card
Military identification
Student identification
Retirement center identification
Neighborhood association identification
Public assistance identification.

If your photo identification does not contain your signature, you will be asked to provide an additional identification that includes a signature.

If you do not have the proper identification, you will be provided with a provisional ballot. Your provisional ballot will count if the signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on your voter registration application

And to register, you are now required to have a photo id that is even more restrictive than that required at the polls.

Really Flopster? MORE restrictive than the law that DEFINES who is eligible to vote?

Are you saying that the registrars should IGNORE THE LAW and not ask for proof of age, residency, citizenship and all the other requirements that MIGHT be in the LAW?
BTW: I personally believe all that ID needs to handled at registration.. NOT at the polling place. The only thing you should need at the polling place is your signature..

My problem is requiring a voter to show an approved photo id at the polls in order to vote. The voter has already proved their identify when they registered. Florida provides a procedure for a provisional ballot. Some states do not do this. Voters without a photo id are not allowed to even enter the polling place.

The real problem with election fraud is not voter id fraud, but rather the vote counting process and purging of valid voters from voter rolls. It makes no sense for someone to commit voter id fraud when the penalties are so high just to get to one vote. Voter purging and vote counting fraud can suppress far more votes with less of a penalty. Red states that have embarked on a course of vote suppression totally ignore the real source of election fraud to concentrate on id fraud which is not the problem and will certainly deny the right to vote for some that are eligible.

 

[gallantwarrior]

In order to get a state id card so you can vote in Florida you need:
Driver's license, passport, birth certificate, or naturalization papers
Social Security, W-2 or similar documents
Poof of Home Address
$25

Florida Drivers License Fees

For a Republican legislation to require that people pay $25 to vote seems just a bit obvious.

You'd concur with the requirement if the $25 fee were dropped?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Voter ID law in Florida


On Election Day, the polls are open from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. and are normally less busy during the mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

If you do not know the location of your polling place, contact your Supervisor of Elections. Also, Supervisors of Elections have precinct and polling place finders on their web sites to provide you with the information on where to vote.

At the polls, you will be asked to provide a valid picture identification with signature. The following photo ids will be accepted:

Florida driver’s license
Florida identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
United States passport
Debit or credit card
Military identification
Student identification
Retirement center identification
Neighborhood association identification
Public assistance identification.

If your photo identification does not contain your signature, you will be asked to provide an additional identification that includes a signature.

If you do not have the proper identification, you will be provided with a provisional ballot. Your provisional ballot will count if the signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on your voter registration application

Seems quite reasonable, doesn't it? I wonder why such a howl of outrage from the left? Oh, wait, the ID is intended to validate you are who you claim you are, as entered into the rolls of registered voters...

 

[gallantwarrior]

Voter ID law in Florida


On Election Day, the polls are open from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. and are normally less busy during the mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

If you do not know the location of your polling place, contact your Supervisor of Elections. Also, Supervisors of Elections have precinct and polling place finders on their web sites to provide you with the information on where to vote.

At the polls, you will be asked to provide a valid picture identification with signature. The following photo ids will be accepted:

Florida driver’s license
Florida identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
United States passport
Debit or credit card
Military identification
Student identification
Retirement center identification
Neighborhood association identification
Public assistance identification.

If your photo identification does not contain your signature, you will be asked to provide an additional identification that includes a signature.

If you do not have the proper identification, you will be provided with a provisional ballot. Your provisional ballot will count if the signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on your voter registration application

And to register, you are now required to have a photo id that is even more restrictive than that required at the polls.

Imagine that! A problem identified: voter registration fraud; a solution proposed (fair to all parties): stringent vetting at the time of registration to prove eligibility and positive identification at the time of voting to confirm one's identity as registered. A win-win for all parties because such requirements severely limits the ability of either major party to cheat the system. Unless cheating the system is the ultimate goal requiring continued failure of the "system" to properly vet the electorate.

 

[gallantwarrior]

So what is the problem? Voting is a right paid for in blood, if one cannot document legal residency, citizenship, they should not be afforded the right to vote? No other country affords this right without documentation so why should we? Explain this to me please. When a person has died and or moved they should be removed from the list.

Oh, stop it! Your comments are true and make sense.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Requiring an ID card to Vote is going to disenfranchise all of the ILLEGAL ALIENS who were prepared to vote Democrat... Fraudulently. That is the only reason Liberals take issue with the ID requirement.

Damn! I just hate it when those nasty white people are so mean and want to deprive criminals (define: illegal) the rights guaranteed to honest citizens.

 

[Flopper]

If Democrats do not exploit the voter suppression issue through the media this fall, there're missing the boat. TV ads that warn voters of the new procedure and explain the voter suppression by Republicans can not just prevent it but can actually gain votes.

 

[mudwhistle]

It's not over minority voters, but illegal minority voters.

You know.....folks that aren't supposed to be here in the first place.

No wonder Obama has been pandering to them so much.

 

[Too Tall]

Yes we need to get rid of the minority voters but those dead people seem to come alive every election year when the democrats feel threaten about losing a major election.

I recommend salt mixed with wolvesbayne and silver.

Please give us some "credible" proof of dead people actually voting. Remember, I said "credible" proof.

Don't hold your breath waiting for proof.

They don't have it and they don't care.

All they care about is getting rid of the black guy.

That's the same black guy who has created more than 4 million jobs, killed bin Laden and Ghadaffi and dozens of other a Quaeda leaders, deported more illegals than any other other prez, and is so damn conservative I could scream.

But, he's black and he works for the little guy and that's what matters.

STOOOPID rw's work for the one percent and don't do shit for the country and that's who they'll vote for.

jeeezus fucking krist, I'd love to slap some sense into them.

Are you sure that the states that have picture ID laws only require black people to have one? Who wudda thunk that!

 

[Too Tall]

As NOTORIOUS as republicans for voter suppression?

No one is suppressing anyone.

Requiring an ID to vote is a logical requirement....

If you're too fucking stupid to NOT have an ID than you're too fucking stupid to vote.....

Does my retired military ID count, proven liar?

If your retired military ID has your picture on it, it counts.

 

[Too Tall]

Whenever they want.

Find more than 150 people convicted of voter fraud in the past 5 years. Why is early voting being ended?

Where is the rampant voter fraud?

Whenever they want.

Can you do a financial transaction without an ID?
Can you buy beer without an ID?
Can you buy a gun without an ID?

I deposit money into the ATM without an ID and use my checkcard to get cash in the bank without an ID, just my PIN..

I buy beer without an ID, I'm 48. No one asks for ID.

I did use ID to buy my guns.

But what does that have to do with voter fraud?

1. Five will get you ten that you showed a picture ID to get your bank account so you could use the ATM.

2. OK

3. OK

2 out of 3 required picture ID. And, it would be 3 out of 3 if you were in your 20's.

When was the last time you drove your car or flew on an airplane without having or showing your picture ID?

The point is you can establish who you are to vote beyond a reasonable doubt if you look like your picture on the ID card.