Germany’s top tank destroyed on Ukrainian Frontlines: Leopard 2A6 and dozens of American Bradleys taken out

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German taxpayers will be happy.
By the way, Russians call the enemy not Ukrainians, but Germans ( 'nemzy' ) now.
An indeed 'excellent job of the best chancellor of all times and its cabinet ( according to German presstitutes ).

Since the initiation of Ukraine’s mass offensive against Russian positions the Ukrainian Army and allied paramilitaries have begun to actively deploy new batches of armour received from Western countries, including not only very large numbers of Leopard 1 and Leopard 2A4 tanks, but also the much more capable Leopard 2A6 which, alongside the British Challenger 2, is considered the most capable in the country’s inventory. While Leopard 2A4s have proven highly vulnerable in combat with armour protection that is effectively obsolete, as best demonstrated by Turkish use of the vehicles against local militias in Syria and Iraq, the Leopard 2A6 has long been marketed as a much more capable vehicle. Costing close to $8 million per vehicle, advantages of the new variant include use of 3rd generation composite armour, integration of a a longer barrelled and more powerful main gun, installation of additional armour modules on the turret, and use of much improved fire controls. The loss of these tanks, which have widely been considered the most capable in production across the Western world, has significant implications well beyond Ukraine itself.

A Leopard 2A6 tank was shown in close up aerial footage burning and completely destroyed, with features such as the gun mount confirming the class of vehicle seen. A second Leopard 2A6 was shown in the same formation damaged on its left track and abandoned, alongside multiple American M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. personnel losses may be heavy, with Western tanks requiring 33% more crew than Russian or Soviet ones at four men each, while Bradleys typically carry nine personnel including three crew. Footage of the destroyed vehicles comes amid reports of very heavy losses for Ukraine’s Western supplied armour in attempted offensives against Russian positions, with other footage published from both sides showing significant losses among Leopard 1 and Leopard 2A4 units.

It remains likely that Leopard 2A6 units have taken further losses, as only a small fraction of destroyed vehicles in the conflict can have closeup videos taken from the air. Leopard 2A6s remain very scarce assets within the Ukrainian inventory, and within NATO more broadly the large majority of tanks in service are less capable, meaning the class’ vulnerability could draw the future viability of further Western arms shipments to Ukraine into question. Germany was initially highly reluctant to allow Leopard 2s to be supplied to Ukraine, with this speculated to have been largely influenced by concerns that combat could tarnish the tank’s reputation. This would be a major loss due to its central importance to the German defence sector’s reputation and to its arms export profile as perhaps the country’s most iconic defence product. Although a more capable Leopard 2 variant the Leopard 2A7 has been developed, improvements remain conservative particularly when compared to the gap between the A4 and A6 variants, with the A7 also having been relegated to a very small production run due to limited foreign demand.
 
The factual issue pertaining to all Western top MBT's such as the LeoII A6 and above, as well as the Challenger and Abrams is that due to security issues - they have all been stripped of their "original" armor and being replaced with "alternatives" - in case they should be captured by Russian forces.

Aside from that - there is no such thing as an invulnerable MBT anyway. especially not since 2015 onward and the available arsenal of MBT breaching weapons.
 
 

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Heavy losses forced the enemy to subject plans to drastic adjustments:

The reserves deployed in the Krivoy Rog, Sumy, Kharkov directions are transferred to the directions:

Even half the 7000 man loss is catastrophic, if you want to disbelieve the official figure .

The so called counter offensive is a complete debacle so far .
 
So the Ukraine is now Russian soil? Which other 'countries' are also Russian soil? Poland, Latvia, etc. Germany is part of NATO so Putin should be very careful.
Most of the Ukraine has been Russian soil since the 1700’s.

Ever hear the term ”Kievian Rus”? Kiev used to be the ancient capital and heart of the Russians.


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German taxpayers will be happy.
By the way, Russians call the enemy not Ukrainians, but Germans ( 'nemzy' ) now.
An indeed 'excellent job of the best chancellor of all times and its cabinet ( according to German presstitutes ).

Since the initiation of Ukraine’s mass offensive against Russian positions the Ukrainian Army and allied paramilitaries have begun to actively deploy new batches of armour received from Western countries, including not only very large numbers of Leopard 1 and Leopard 2A4 tanks, but also the much more capable Leopard 2A6 which, alongside the British Challenger 2, is considered the most capable in the country’s inventory. While Leopard 2A4s have proven highly vulnerable in combat with armour protection that is effectively obsolete, as best demonstrated by Turkish use of the vehicles against local militias in Syria and Iraq, the Leopard 2A6 has long been marketed as a much more capable vehicle. Costing close to $8 million per vehicle, advantages of the new variant include use of 3rd generation composite armour, integration of a a longer barrelled and more powerful main gun, installation of additional armour modules on the turret, and use of much improved fire controls. The loss of these tanks, which have widely been considered the most capable in production across the Western world, has significant implications well beyond Ukraine itself.

A Leopard 2A6 tank was shown in close up aerial footage burning and completely destroyed, with features such as the gun mount confirming the class of vehicle seen. A second Leopard 2A6 was shown in the same formation damaged on its left track and abandoned, alongside multiple American M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. personnel losses may be heavy, with Western tanks requiring 33% more crew than Russian or Soviet ones at four men each, while Bradleys typically carry nine personnel including three crew. Footage of the destroyed vehicles comes amid reports of very heavy losses for Ukraine’s Western supplied armour in attempted offensives against Russian positions, with other footage published from both sides showing significant losses among Leopard 1 and Leopard 2A4 units.

It remains likely that Leopard 2A6 units have taken further losses, as only a small fraction of destroyed vehicles in the conflict can have closeup videos taken from the air. Leopard 2A6s remain very scarce assets within the Ukrainian inventory, and within NATO more broadly the large majority of tanks in service are less capable, meaning the class’ vulnerability could draw the future viability of further Western arms shipments to Ukraine into question. Germany was initially highly reluctant to allow Leopard 2s to be supplied to Ukraine, with this speculated to have been largely influenced by concerns that combat could tarnish the tank’s reputation. This would be a major loss due to its central importance to the German defence sector’s reputation and to its arms export profile as perhaps the country’s most iconic defence product. Although a more capable Leopard 2 variant the Leopard 2A7 has been developed, improvements remain conservative particularly when compared to the gap between the A4 and A6 variants, with the A7 also having been relegated to a very small production run due to limited foreign demand.
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German taxpayers will be happy.
1) who said that 2 leopards were the German ?
2) there is a mutiny in your mongol ulus and you started the thread about 2 Leopards ? :icon_lol:
3) how many tanks lost your ulus , do you know ? I guess no, around 2 000 🇷🇺

any comment on this subject ?



❗️Prigozhin stated that PMC Wagner would not be subordinate to the 🇷🇺 Ministry of Defense, saying,
“Those orders and decrees that Shoigu makes, they apply to employees of the 🇷🇺 Ministry of Defense and military personnel.
PMC Wagner will not sign any contracts with Shoigu. PMC Wagner is organically built into the overall system, PMC Wagner coordinates its actions with the generals on the right, left, with unit commanders. What can happen after this order - we will not be given weapons and ammunition - we will figure it out, as they say, when the thunder strikes, they will come running and bring everything.”
- Prigozhin of PMC Wagner
❗️Girkin (Strelkov), a key 🇷🇺 figure in the 2014 invasion, called Prigozhin's refusal to submit to Shoigu as ‘military mutiny.’

❗️Prigozhin’s chicken video is likely, based on his early statements, referring to the 🇷🇺 military leadership as being cowards and ‘roosters’ (it is 🇷🇺 prison slang for submissive homosexual).
 
Well Winkle , where do you plan to run to now , Nazi boy? .
Khazakstan I guess .

What a terrible year for you Nazis .
 
So Russia conquered the Ukraine once so they own it forever? Will the British go back into India now?
No, but the ethnic Russia areas deserve to have a say in the matter. But because they choose different than what you want, you want to kill them, as Zelensky and his government have been doing since 2014.
 
No, but the ethnic Russia areas deserve to have a say in the matter. But because they choose different than what you want, you want to kill them, as Zelensky and his government have been doing since 2014.
Fake news. The Russians, however, suffered appalling losses.
 
No, but the ethnic Russia areas deserve to have a say in the matter. But because they choose different than what you want, you want to kill them, as Zelensky and his government have been doing since 2014.
I don't want to kill any minority in Ukraine but whatever went on there, and Russia played a part, it does not justify Russia attacking Kiev. If you were President of the US in 1861, would you have allowed the Confederate States to secede?
 

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