Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, legendary vietnamese freedom fighter, turns 100

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    Võ Nguyên Giáp (born August 25, 1911) is a retired Vietnamese officer in the Vietnam People's Army and a politician. He was a principal commander in two wars: the First Indochina War (1946–1954) and the Vietnam War (1960–1975). He participated in the following historically significant battles: Lạng Sơn (1950); Hòa Bình (1951–1952); Điện Biên Phủ (1954); the Tết Offensive (1968); the Easter Offensive (1972); and the final Hồ Chí Minh Campaign (1975).

    He was the most prominent military commander besides Hồ Chí Minh during the war and was responsible for major operations and leadership until the war ended.

    Vo Nguyen Giap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Võ Nguyên Giáp in 2008

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    Võ Nguyên Giáp (left) and Hồ Chí Minh in Hà Nội, October 1945

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    This picture taken in March 1954 shows General Vo Nguyen Giap (4th R-black top) explaining operation plans to his aids next to a military map at his PC in Dien Bien Phu. Second only to Ho Chi Minh as the most revered figure in Vietnam's recent history, Giap's only military lesson came from an old encyclopeadia entry describing the mechanism of hand grenades. But despite his lack of formal training, the former history teacher went on in 1954 to secure victory at Dien Bien Phu, the battle that ended French rule in Indochina, and precipatated nearly two decades of US involvement in Vietnam. Vietnam will mark 13 March 2004 the 50th anniversary of the start of the siege of Dien Bien Phu, the epic battle that precipitated the collapse of French colonial rule in Indochina.

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    After visiting the Cu Chi tunnels, the general takes a nap under bamboos (1996).

    Photo from Getty Images

    VietNamNet - Never-published pictures of Legendary General Vo Nguyen Giap | Never-published pictures of Legendary General Vo Nguyen Giap
     
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    At least I choose my heroes carefully, which is more than I can say about you, daveman.

    You're a grotesque caricature of a mentally retarded super patriotic american clown who's never seen a US soldier's asshole he didn't want to lick to help him save on toilet paper no matter how unjust and immoral his "service" was.
     
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    No please..don't hold back.

    Mild jabs always deserve overwhelmingly disgusting insults as a retort.
     
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    Giap attacked the right people and new how to use them to his advantage

    The American liberal flopped like a frenchman even though we had not lost a single battle and they lost 10 times the people we did.

    I wonder if Jane Fonda got an invite?
     
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    A hero of the far-left
     
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    The "legendary fighter" was defeated in every battle in VietNam. If it wasn't for Giap's support by Walter Cronkite and the rest of the American liberal media he would have faded away in obscurity after the TET offensive.
     
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    No, a hero of every decent human being who believe in the principle of the right to self-determination of peoples.

    The same principle invoked by the american people when they put in power a slave owner named George Washington.

    Giap's communist belief is as irrelevant to the issue at hand as Washington's racist, classist and sexist ideas.
     
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    What whitehall conveniently “forgot” to tell you, member of the USMB, is the fact that Cronkite’s disillusionment with the Vietnam clusterfuck happened only after he witnessed a single vietcong hold his position for hours under unimaginable heavy artillery and air fire before finally succumbing to his injuries.

    Conkrite said after the episode:

    “OK, that’s it... Let’s pack our bags and get the hell out of here.”

    There are hundreds of “whitehalls” in Russia today.

    “If we did this, if we did that we’d have won in Afghanistan, blah, blah, blah...”

    The only thing America would get if the country decided to stay in Vietnam is 200.000 dead GI’s instead of 58.000.
     
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    OOHHH, MY GOD!!!!

    The US/Red army were not militarily defeated by the vietnamese/afghan flea!!

    Now that's a huge military prowess worth bragging about!!

    If the people of Vietnam and Afghanistan had anything remotely similar to the US/Soviet military behemoth the war wouldn't have lasted two months!!

    And this is not a disparaging remark about the US/Russian army. Had the roles been reversed and Vietnam/Afghanistan, two military superpowers had invaded an impoverished, pathetically weak US/Russia, the american and russian soldier would also display the same extraordinary bravery and commitment to the liberation of the country.

    I'm not portraying american soldiers in a bad light when I say they'd be crushed in Vietnam with a more level playing field, this is just a psychological reality of warfare.

    As a rule of Two Thumbs :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: when soldiers fight for their homeland, instead of being the invaders, they walk that extra mile, they give everything they got.
     
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