Gay Pride Parade Commentary

[Harry Dresden]

What Homos do in their Homo parade, is just confirming what the mainstream population thinks about Homosexuals. That they are mentally ill individuals, acting out
on a sexual perversion. Homosexuality must be criminalized. These, Homosexuals, and lesbians must be removed from the society. Many countries throughout the rest of the world has criminalized Homosexuality. These countries are wise enough to see this
mentally deranged perversion for what it really is, criminally insane offense, punishable by imprisonment, hanging, or mutilation, and or incineration.

and this makes you a better person than the gay folks?.....you are criminally insane yourself.....

 

[Toro]

Gay Pride Parades are something of a farce IMHO. If the gay community wishes to change people's opinions about homosexuality, parading around pretty much naked in an overtly and flamboyantly sexual manner isn't the way to do it.

 

[KittenKoder]

Gay Pride Parades are something of a farce IMHO. If the gay community wishes to change people's opinions about homosexuality, parading around pretty much naked in an overtly and flamboyantly sexual manner isn't the way to do it.

First, as said many times, Pride Parade and Festival is tame compared to many other events. Secondly, they don't need to change anyone's minds, it's a celebration of having already accomplished equality under the law (for the most part anyway).

Thinking that they want to change your mind is like thinking Independence Day is really to try to convince the rest of the world we need to be free of England.

 

[Toro]

Gay Pride Parades are something of a farce IMHO. If the gay community wishes to change people's opinions about homosexuality, parading around pretty much naked in an overtly and flamboyantly sexual manner isn't the way to do it.

First, as said many times, Pride Parade and Festival is tame compared to many other events. Secondly, they don't need to change anyone's minds, it's a celebration of having already accomplished equality under the law (for the most part anyway).

Thinking that they want to change your mind is like thinking Independence Day is really to try to convince the rest of the world we need to be free of England.

I get that it is a celebration but it is also political.

Gay people are still discriminated against, and there are still laws which deny gay people rights, not to mention that gays are still liable to be beaten merely for who they are. Changing attitudes is a process, and some of the behavior at parades hardens peoples attitudes against expanding rights for gays and lesbians. A parade of scantily-clad female strippers would have hurt the women's movement, not helped it. Its no different for the gay community.

 

[KittenKoder]

Gay Pride Parades are something of a farce IMHO. If the gay community wishes to change people's opinions about homosexuality, parading around pretty much naked in an overtly and flamboyantly sexual manner isn't the way to do it.

First, as said many times, Pride Parade and Festival is tame compared to many other events. Secondly, they don't need to change anyone's minds, it's a celebration of having already accomplished equality under the law (for the most part anyway).

Thinking that they want to change your mind is like thinking Independence Day is really to try to convince the rest of the world we need to be free of England.

I get that it is a celebration but it is also political.

Gay people are still discriminated against, and there are still laws which deny gay people rights, not to mention that gays are still liable to be beaten merely for who they are. Changing attitudes is a process, and some of the behavior at parades hardens peoples attitudes against expanding rights for gays and lesbians. A parade of scantily-clad female strippers would have hurt the women's movement, not helped it. Its no different for the gay community.

The booths at the fair can be political, but the parade itself is just a parade. Even then, why does it matter how they celebrate? If you knew the history a bit better you'd understand the costuming more to. As for the nudity, as I said, it's extremely tame compared to other parades and parties in the US. You can not have a celebration of any sort without some flare, or it's not a celebration.

Tell you what, get Spring Breakers to put on some clothes, Mardis Gras goers to as well, get rid of the Nude Bike Riders (those painted freaks are just sick, all that bouncing on a bike just for family charities, if they wanted to help their cause they'd wear clothing), etc. etc. etc..

 

[Misty]

Gay Pride Parades are something of a farce IMHO. If the gay community wishes to change people's opinions about homosexuality, parading around pretty much naked in an overtly and flamboyantly sexual manner isn't the way to do it.

They want to live that way. At least the people who participate in the parade.

They want to be naked flamboyant and gay. Openly.

 

[Amanda]

Tell us exactly what you mean by "sexual displays."

If you were writing the law: what would the phrasing of that law look like?

A person who knowingly or intentionally engages in a display of sexuality commits Indecent Expression, a Felony.
(a) As used in this section, a "display of sexuality" refers to any action between one or more persons that:
(1) Is conducted with the intent to arouse one or more parties
(2) Involves the exhibition of the uncovered genitals
(3) Depicts the bodily positions of sexual conduct
(4) Verbally or non-verbally expresses a certain sexual preference, desire, or fantasy.

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.

Before we go further, one more question:

Do # 1, 2, 3 & 4 include an "and" or and "or" at the end of each sentence.

I think all of them would need to be present or a lot of dancing would be illegal.

 

[KittenKoder]

If there was more nudity, perhaps people wouldn't think about it as sexual so much ... actually it's known they wouldn't, nudist colonies are the perfect example. If you think about sex when you see a nude person, there's something wrong with you not the nude person.

 

[paperview]

A person who knowingly or intentionally engages in a display of sexuality commits Indecent Expression, a Felony.
(a) As used in this section, a "display of sexuality" refers to any action between one or more persons that:
(1) Is conducted with the intent to arouse one or more parties
(2) Involves the exhibition of the uncovered genitals
(3) Depicts the bodily positions of sexual conduct
(4) Verbally or non-verbally expresses a certain sexual preference, desire, or fantasy.

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.

Before we go further, one more question:

Do # 1, 2, 3 & 4 include an "and" or and "or" at the end of each sentence.

I think all of them would need to be present or a lot of dancing would be illegal.

He's already said it was "or."
Sealing the fact indianaboy's social gears roll in the shape of the Taliban.

 

[Amanda]

What a lot of gay pride parade supporters seem to willfully miss is that the "gay community" doesn't do itself any favors when they put on wanton public displays of behavior and dress that many in mainstream America find distasteful.

I don't know of anyone personally that cares what gay people do in private. I'm sure there are some, but for the most part no 1 really cares. The problem is when it's in public. If you're anywhere near the parade route you're going to be exposed. It always makes the news and you know they show the "worst" they can find. The Mardi Gras argument fails because it's pretty easy to avoid New Orleans if you don't like Mardi Gras and I've never seen them show any Mardi Gras depravity on the news. People get upset because children are exposed to this stuff. Parents would like to have some say in how/when their children are exposed. Pride parades are, IMO, an attempt by the gay community to force others to acknowledge and accept homosexuality AS IT'S PRESENTED IN THE PARADE and that is where I think they are hurting themselves.

Homosexuality isn't, in my experience, anything like what you see in the parades. It's mostly decent people that just do things differently in bed. BFD. If that were the tact taken, if pride parades were normal looking/acting people, then I would understand what they are trying to do. Then the message would be: Look, we're just like you, there's nothing to fear about us. Instead the message is more like: DEAL WITH IT HONEY!!!!

1 approach will get you acceptance over time, the other alienates people that are potential allies.


And, tho I've said it before, before you consider responding with how homophobic I am, keep in mind I'm bi, so that dog just won't hunt.

 

[Toro]

The booths at the fair can be political, but the parade itself is just a parade. Even then, why does it matter how they celebrate? If you knew the history a bit better you'd understand the costuming more to. As for the nudity, as I said, it's extremely tame compared to other parades and parties in the US. You can not have a celebration of any sort without some flare, or it's not a celebration.

Tell you what, get Spring Breakers to put on some clothes, Mardis Gras goers to as well, get rid of the Nude Bike Riders (those painted freaks are just sick, all that bouncing on a bike just for family charities, if they wanted to help their cause they'd wear clothing), etc. etc. etc..

So Christmas is not a celebration because there aren't dancers in thongs in the annual Santa Claus parade? Where are all the nearly nude Uncle Sams on the 4th of July? Those are celebrations, near as I can tell.

Why does it matter how they celebrate? Like I said, the parade is political, at least in part. Mardi Gras is not. Spring break is especially not. When you pay homage to sex when making a political statement, people are going to react. That is true of heterosexuality and it is especially true of homosexuality. Not all publicity is good publicity.

 

[hvacjones]

The booths at the fair can be political, but the parade itself is just a parade. Even then, why does it matter how they celebrate? If you knew the history a bit better you'd understand the costuming more to. As for the nudity, as I said, it's extremely tame compared to other parades and parties in the US. You can not have a celebration of any sort without some flare, or it's not a celebration.

Tell you what, get Spring Breakers to put on some clothes, Mardis Gras goers to as well, get rid of the Nude Bike Riders (those painted freaks are just sick, all that bouncing on a bike just for family charities, if they wanted to help their cause they'd wear clothing), etc. etc. etc..

So Christmas is not a celebration because there aren't dancers in thongs in the annual Santa Claus parade? Where are all the nearly nude Uncle Sams on the 4th of July? Those are celebrations, near as I can tell.

Why does it matter how they celebrate? Like I said, the parade is political, at least in part. Mardi Gras is not. Spring break is especially not. When you pay homage to sex when making a political statement, people are going to react. That is true of heterosexuality and it is especially true of homosexuality. Not all publicity is good publicity.

I must agree. I support gay rights on all levels(even marriage), but when I see these parades, it makes me wonder if I should change my position.

 

[Toro]

I must agree. I support gay rights on all levels(even marriage), but when I see these parades, it makes me wonder if I should change my position.

I'm a big supporter of gay rights as well. However, I think the parades go too far sometimes and hurts the gay community.

 

[KittenKoder]

The booths at the fair can be political, but the parade itself is just a parade. Even then, why does it matter how they celebrate? If you knew the history a bit better you'd understand the costuming more to. As for the nudity, as I said, it's extremely tame compared to other parades and parties in the US. You can not have a celebration of any sort without some flare, or it's not a celebration.

Tell you what, get Spring Breakers to put on some clothes, Mardis Gras goers to as well, get rid of the Nude Bike Riders (those painted freaks are just sick, all that bouncing on a bike just for family charities, if they wanted to help their cause they'd wear clothing), etc. etc. etc..

So Christmas is not a celebration because there aren't dancers in thongs in the annual Santa Claus parade? Where are all the nearly nude Uncle Sams on the 4th of July? Those are celebrations, near as I can tell.

Why does it matter how they celebrate? Like I said, the parade is political, at least in part. Mardi Gras is not. Spring break is especially not. When you pay homage to sex when making a political statement, people are going to react. That is true of heterosexuality and it is especially true of homosexuality. Not all publicity is good publicity.

First, they don't?

Secondly, what one person considers "outrageous" is not what another does. My prefered world, no condoms, viagra, sex of any sort and people would wear whatever they want. Dancing is lude, people holding hands is lude, nudity is just natural, and anyone that talks on their cellphone should be shot. Do you agree with all my views?

 

[hvacjones]

I must agree. I support gay rights on all levels(even marriage), but when I see these parades, it makes me wonder if I should change my position.

I'm a big supporter of gay rights as well. However, I think the parades go too far sometimes and hurts the gay community.

Exactly, doesn't seem like a smart way to become part of the mainstream.

 

[KittenKoder]

Since the Pride Parade moved from Capital Hill to downtown in Seattle, Capital Hill has been losing businesses left and right, the revenue is gone there because of no parade. Tell me, gay people are bad for the economy how? The only way I see them being bad is when we get rid of them.

 

[Toro]

Since the Pride Parade moved from Capital Hill to downtown in Seattle, Capital Hill has been losing businesses left and right, the revenue is gone there because of no parade. Tell me, gay people are bad for the economy how? The only way I see them being bad is when we get rid of them.

Who said gays and lesbians were bad for the economy?

Gay men are often great for the economy. They tend to make more than the average person and have a lot of disposable income to spend.

 

[KittenKoder]

Since the Pride Parade moved from Capital Hill to downtown in Seattle, Capital Hill has been losing businesses left and right, the revenue is gone there because of no parade. Tell me, gay people are bad for the economy how? The only way I see them being bad is when we get rid of them.

Who said gays and lesbians were bad for the economy?

Gay men are often great for the economy. They tend to make more than the average person and have a lot of disposable income to spend.

The parade attracts patrons, a lot of patrons, mostly straight people who want to see the pageantry. Take away the pageantry and these people who gather to see the parades wouldn't gather, they'd watch it on the news. It's the same reason they hadn't enforced the nudity laws for Mardis Gras until recently, and then they still enforce them very loosely (though in Seattle due to a racially charged incident when a white kid was beat to death they enforce it to the letter now). Since people get in trouble (stupidly) for such behavior all other times, this gives them a chance to be fun for once, and actually nice looking instead of the bland boring shit we see them wear every day. So they want to flaunt their costuming one weekend of the year, I am so close to taking a sniper rifle and taking out everyone wearing a "suit and tie" these days it's nice to have at least one weekend a year I get to see something that's not so clone like.

 

[KittenKoder]

Those against the parade, why not shut down Spring Break (where they have sex in the fucking streets in some places), and Mardis Gras, then you'll have grounds for complaining about Pride Parade. Otherwise you are just hypocrites.

 

[hvacjones]

Those against the parade, why not shut down Spring Break (where they have sex in the fucking streets in some places), and Mardis Gras, then you'll have grounds for complaining about Pride Parade. Otherwise you are just hypocrites.

I think many, like myself, don't think the parade should be shut down. I just think they are not helping their cause, if they are trying to become accepted in mainstream society. Just like flashing women are not accepted in mainstream society. ummm.....booobies