Game of Thrones

[CrusaderFrank]

Not to mention that the Night King showing up on the battle field full of flying dragon glass

He never even came within range of any of their weapons. Did you even watch the same show I did?

We couldn't hide an archer or two to overwatch Bran?

 

[bodecea]

A lot of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR's writing is eddies and dead ends. He spent 12,000 pages on Stannis -- for what?

To share the experiences of the people living in his fantasy world. To build up the hope and tension to the levels of stannis himself, and of his followers. The first person style is meant also to accomplish this. He wants the reader to feel the same letdown and hopelessness, when the best laid plans go awry. 12000 pages versus 12 accomplishes this.

The problem is that when a writer does that, they often write themselves into a corner that they can't get out of in a believable way. I specifically mentioned Orsen Wells in the OP for that very reason. In the War of the Worlds, he spent the entire novel building the Martians up to such a level that only God, in his infinite wisdom, could beat them. Poor storytelling.

That wasn't Orsen Wells, you know...that was H.G. Wells.

Same thing

No, two different people.

 

[martybegan]

I expected it to be Samwell....

You did? And why would you expect the night king to have been anywhere near Sam? The night king had one goal: kill Bran.

His single mindedness was his downfall, it made him predictable.

 

[bodecea]

A lot of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR's writing is eddies and dead ends. He spent 12,000 pages on Stannis -- for what?

To share the experiences of the people living in his fantasy world. To build up the hope and tension to the levels of stannis himself, and of his followers. The first person style is meant also to accomplish this. He wants the reader to feel the same letdown and hopelessness, when the best laid plans go awry. 12000 pages versus 12 accomplishes this.

The problem is that when a writer does that, they often write themselves into a corner that they can't get out of in a believable way. I specifically mentioned Orsen Wells in the OP for that very reason. In the War of the Worlds, he spent the entire novel building the Martians up to such a level that only God, in his infinite wisdom, could beat them. Poor storytelling.

Arya stark was well established as the deadliest character on the show. If you had to pause and consider which character would or even could kill the night king, you would end up at Arya. And it was prophesied years ago by the red woman. That's pretty good storytelling, if you ask me.

What's even more interesting is the continuing role that dirk kept playing in the story...all the way from the 1st season.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What a let down.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And Cersei wanted the elephants...........significance?

I am puzzled by that, too. Something tells me thats part of her ruse. Or, that the fact that no elephants came is stuck in her craw and making her wonder about the gold company's (and euron's) allegiances.

Is she so simple that she merely wanted them as a projection of her ego? What does she think elephants would do against dragons? There is something there that hasn't yet been revealed, maybe.

 

[bodecea]

A lot of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR's writing is eddies and dead ends. He spent 12,000 pages on Stannis -- for what?

To share the experiences of the people living in his fantasy world. To build up the hope and tension to the levels of stannis himself, and of his followers. The first person style is meant also to accomplish this. He wants the reader to feel the same letdown and hopelessness, when the best laid plans go awry. 12000 pages versus 12 accomplishes this.

The problem is that when a writer does that, they often write themselves into a corner that they can't get out of in a believable way. I specifically mentioned Orsen Wells in the OP for that very reason. In the War of the Worlds, he spent the entire novel building the Martians up to such a level that only God, in his infinite wisdom, could beat them. Poor storytelling.

Arya stark was well established as the deadliest character on the show. If you had to pause and consider which character would or even could kill the night king, you would end up at Arya. And it was prophesied years ago by the red woman. That's pretty good storytelling, if you ask me.

I have no problem with her being the assassin of the Night King, but I have a problem with the trickery of her just showing up out of nowhere. As I said, she was running for her life the last scene we saw of her before she shows up here. Its poorly written.

You missed her exchange with the Red Priestess then.....that's when I guessed that she would do it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

dirk

?

 

[bodecea]

dirk

?

Kind of dagger.

 

[rightwinger]

I expected it to be Samwell....

You did? And why would you expect the night king to have been anywhere near Sam? The night king had one goal: kill Bran.

Samwell had brains rather than brawn
I expected him to learn how they defeated the king in the past

Nothing came of it

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So she was shot from a catapult to the Night King

No, the godswood is attached to winterfell and shares its walls.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I expected him to learn how they defeated the king in the past

They didn't. There were fewer people then, and thus fewer wights. They beat back his army and built a wall.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

dirk

?

Kind of dagger.

Ah, gotcha.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Also, the Night King senses Bran, and would sense something was wrong if it was Arya.

He did. You can see bran avert his gaze to somewhere behind the night king. The night kings snatches her right out of the air. His arrogance got the best of him, though.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The dagger used to kill the night king was the dagger of Valerian steel used in the attempt on Bran's life in the beginning.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We couldn't hide an archer or two to overwatch Bran?

He was protected by about 30 archers. They were all killed.

 

[martybegan]

Also, the Night King senses Bran, and would sense something was wrong if it was Arya.

He did. You can see bran avert his gaze to somewhere behind the night king. The night kings snatches her right out of the air. His arrogance got the best of him, though.

He seems to have pretty good reflexes, i doubt an archer could have hit him even if one was still alive with arrows.

Arya got him because she was in close.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

His single mindedness was his downfall, it made him predictable.

Yes, and his arrogance. He wanted to relish his victory, even though he had not yet seized it.

 

[martybegan]

His single mindedness was his downfall, it made him predictable.

Yes, and his arrogance. He wanted to relish his victory, even though he had not yet seized it.

Not sure if someone like him was able to actually feel arrogance. His one mindedness to destroy bran showed his inability to be flexible or even wait to get to bran.

He could have marched south, swelled his army to 100 times its current size, and then came up to get Bran at his leisure.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not sure if someone like him was able to actually feel arrogance.

Right,but i think he showed it several times in this episode. He walked away from jon snow, leaving him to battle the wights. He assumed victory over both arya and bran. He stopped his wights in favor of relishing the murder of Bran for himself.