Game of Thrones

[rightwinger]

Totally useless plot lines

Direwolfs- made such a big deal about them in Season one, they don’t do shit in battle

Bron - goes into a trace and pulls his three eyed raven act that is no help in the battle. Made great bait for the Night King but adds no value

Samwell- they made a big deal about him in the Citadel library researching how they killed the Whitewalkers a thousand years ago. Turns out you just sneak up on the Night King and jump him

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Couldn't see a fucking thing during the battles.

Get a better TV. Not an insult, just a fact. The cheapos dont handle the dark shades well.

Still don't know why the Dothraki did a Bravely bold Sir Robin and Ran Away.

They were on horseback. Sitting there waiting to be overrun is to turn the horses into a liability instead of an advantage.

Where did Arya come from???

She ran into the Godswood. There is a shot of the white walkers' hair moving from the breeze of her running by.

They beat the dead....so Cersei is supposed to be scary?

She has an army of 20,000 experienced mercenaries. How many fighters are left at winterfell? Maybe 200?

Personally, I think the gold company double crosses Cersei, or at the very least, is prepared to do so. The iron bank bets on winners. The moment they sense that Cersei is on the losing side, they will change their allegiance.

Great episode. The tension in the scene between the night king and bran was great. The all seeing 3 eyed raven can only see the past. And the night king can only imagine the future.

Best dragon scenes in the history of tv or movies.

Best undead scenes in history. Best battle scenes. The continuous shots (like with the haggard, shredded undead dragon beseiging winterfell from within, as jon snow navigates the carnage) were well composed with great contrast techniques. The cinematograhy in this episode is destined to win awards.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Direwolfs- made such a big deal about them in Season one, they don’t do shit in battle

There are only two left in the world. And they were notoriously hard to shoot (wolves dont tend to do what you want them to do), while the producers just were not happy with the CGI attempts. Every dire wolf died (or was was exiled,see Nymeria) protecting its stark keeper. Whatmore did you want to see?

Bron - goes into a trace and pulls his three eyed raven act that is no help in the battle. Made great bait for the Night King

And that's how he helped the battle. When the night king and his walkers were in the Godswood, they werent burning winterfell to the ground. And killing the night king was the only possible path to victory.

Samwell- they made a big deal about him in the Citadel library researching how they killed the Whitewalkers a thousand years ago.

And, thanks to his knowledge, every kill of the undead was a "one shot" kill. Without the dragonglass, that battle ends before it begins.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If the producers had catered to every fan's whim, the episode would have been 3 hours long and lost its continuity and tension.

I would love to have seen an undead Hodor, tossing people about like ragdolls. Or undead dire bears or dire wolves. Varys, for all his talent and influence, was as useless as tits on a boar. But that was kind of the point, as Sansa reminded us. All your wit, fame, riches, and political influence are worth exactly fuck all, when the end of the world comes.

Who will burn King's landing? Cersei, or Drogon?

What part is left to play for the necromancer Maester Qyburn, the new, de facto "king of the dead"?

What part is left to play for the Tullys of Riverrun, or the Freys? They were south of the battle, but still in the north.

How could Cersei possibly ambush any of our heroes, with Bran being able to observe her every move? Surely she doesn't plan to use the gold company to merely protect the walls of King's landing, only to be mowed down by dragon fire.

 

[bodecea]

FYI the best Game of Thrones whisky is Royal Lochnager 12.

Nope....The Singleton.

 

[rightwinger]

If the producers had catered to every fan's whim, the episode would have been 3 hours long and lost its continuity and tension.

I would love to have seen an undead Hodor, tossing people about like ragdolls. Or undead dire bears or dire wolves. Varys, for all his talent and influence, was as useless as tits on a boar. But that was kind of the point, as Sansa reminded us. All your wit, fame, riches, and political influence are worth exactly fuck all, when the end of the world comes.

Who will burn King's landing? Cersei, or Drogon?

What part is left to play for the necromancer Maester Qyburn, the new, de facto "king of the dead"?

What part is left to play for the Tullys of Riverrun, or the Freys? They were south of the battle, but still in the north.

How could Cersei possibly ambush any of our heroes, with Bran being able to observe her every move? Surely she doesn't plan to use the gold company to merely protect the walls of King's landing, only to be mowed down by dragon fire.

Seems anti-climatic from here

Defeating Cersei is not such big deal after you have defeated the Night King and a hundred thousand undead

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Seems anti-climatic from here

Yes, and i am sure our showrunners know this. They are going to play on that. I sense an inversion coming. Just as the battle against the dead seemed hopeless and doomed, then turned on a dime, I have a sense that they will invert this range of emotions in the upcoming episodes.

The battle against Cersei will seem to be won before it begins, and then she will turn that on its head somehow, beingthe evil genius she is.

We saw what one 'scorpion' can do. Imagine 200 of them.

Cersei's pregnancy is fake. Of that i am certain. She refuses wine with Tyrion, but then is shown drinking wine after doing the deed with Euron.

The undead threat is gone. Will Jaime and tyrion align with their blood? Will Varys sabotage any perceived threat to daenerys's rule, including jon snow?

Daenerys seems not to see the obvious: Jon could become king, and that would still make her the queen, should they be married. But she doesnt want to be that kind of queen; she wants to sit on the iron throne, which a queen does not do. That is for the king.

The gold company is a wildcard. Surely they are as aware as anyone that they are dragonfire fodder in any battle in the field. They aren't in the business of committing suicide. They aren't going to line themselves up in a pretty little row and march along roads or into the field in formation. In the end, they may open the gates of King's Landing to Daenerys.

 

[Polishprince]

If the producers had catered to every fan's whim, the episode would have been 3 hours long and lost its continuity and tension.

I would love to have seen an undead Hodor, tossing people about like ragdolls. Or undead dire bears or dire wolves. Varys, for all his talent and influence, was as useless as tits on a boar. But that was kind of the point, as Sansa reminded us. All your wit, fame, riches, and political influence are worth exactly fuck all, when the end of the world comes.

Who will burn King's landing? Cersei, or Drogon?

What part is left to play for the necromancer Maester Qyburn, the new, de facto "king of the dead"?

What part is left to play for the Tullys of Riverrun, or the Freys? They were south of the battle, but still in the north.

How could Cersei possibly ambush any of our heroes, with Bran being able to observe her every move? Surely she doesn't plan to use the gold company to merely protect the walls of King's landing, only to be mowed down by dragon fire.

Seems anti-climatic from here

Defeating Cersei is not such big deal after you have defeated the Night King and a hundred thousand undead

Who says that Cersei will be defeated at all? She pulled out some big victories already

 

[rightwinger]

If the producers had catered to every fan's whim, the episode would have been 3 hours long and lost its continuity and tension.

I would love to have seen an undead Hodor, tossing people about like ragdolls. Or undead dire bears or dire wolves. Varys, for all his talent and influence, was as useless as tits on a boar. But that was kind of the point, as Sansa reminded us. All your wit, fame, riches, and political influence are worth exactly fuck all, when the end of the world comes.

Who will burn King's landing? Cersei, or Drogon?

What part is left to play for the necromancer Maester Qyburn, the new, de facto "king of the dead"?

What part is left to play for the Tullys of Riverrun, or the Freys? They were south of the battle, but still in the north.

How could Cersei possibly ambush any of our heroes, with Bran being able to observe her every move? Surely she doesn't plan to use the gold company to merely protect the walls of King's landing, only to be mowed down by dragon fire.

Seems anti-climatic from here

Defeating Cersei is not such big deal after you have defeated the Night King and a hundred thousand undead

Who says that Cersei will be defeated at all? She pulled out some big victories already

Be some mighty pissed off fans

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Totally useless plot lines

Direwolfs- made such a big deal about them in Season one, they don’t do shit in battle

Bron - goes into a trace and pulls his three eyed raven act that is no help in the battle. Made great bait for the Night King but adds no value

Samwell- they made a big deal about him in the Citadel library researching how they killed the Whitewalkers a thousand years ago. Turns out you just sneak up on the Night King and jump him

A lot of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR's writing is eddies and dead ends. He spent 12,000 pages on Stannis -- for what?

The direwolf -- good point. One was running next to them --- anddddd BFD

 

[Darkwind]

Wow This episode sucked Alaskan Moosecock. Just fucking awful episode! Couldn't see a fucking thing during the battles. Still don't know why the Dothraki did a Bravely bold Sir Robin and Ran Away. Where did Arya come from??? Seriously??? Jumping from the top rope like a WWE wrestler and putting the Night King in a Sleeper Hold.

They beat the dead....so Cersei is supposed to be scary? Dafuq?!

All that build up and then...wow did the Russian collude in writing the episode?

That was My initial response as well. Just, where the fuck did she come from? Last we saw, she was running for her life in the Castle. Did she leap from the tower? I mean, okay. If she is the person to win the day, at least make it believable that she was in the spot at that time.

As I said. MORE DRAGON(s)!!!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A lot of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR's writing is eddies and dead ends. He spent 12,000 pages on Stannis -- for what?

To share the experiences of the people living in his fantasy world. To build up the hope and tension to the levels of stannis himself, and of his followers. The first person style is meant also to accomplish this. He wants the reader to feel the same letdown and hopelessness, when the best laid plans go awry. 12000 pages versus 12 accomplishes this.

 

[Darkwind]

Seems anti-climatic from here

Yes, and i am sure our showrunners know this. They are going to play on that. I sense an inversion coming. Just as the battle against the dead seemed hopeless and doomed, then turned on a dime, I have a sense that they will invert this range of emotions in the upcoming episodes.

The battle against Cersei will seem to be won before it begins, and then she will turn that on its head somehow, beingthe evil genius she is.

We saw what one 'scorpion' can do. Imagine 200 of them.

Cersei's pregnancy is fake. Of that i am certain. She refuses wine with Tyrion, but then is shown drinking wine after doing the deed with Euron.

The undead threat is gone. Will Jaime and tyrion align with their blood? Will Varys sabotage any perceived threat to daenerys's rule, including jon snow?

Daenerys seems not to see the obvious: Jon could become king, and that would still make her the queen, should they be married. But she doesnt want to be that kind of queen; she wants to sit on the iron throne, which a queen does not do. That is for the king.

The gold company is a wildcard. Surely they are as aware as anyone that they are dragonfire fodder in any battle in the field. They aren't in the business of committing suicide. They aren't going to line themselves up in a pretty little row and march along roads or into the field in formation. In the end, they may open the gates of King's Landing to Daenerys.

No where near enough episode or time for all of that. The Iron-born fleet is still out there so count on that being a big part of the coming conflict.

Maybe they worked on an actual outcome for a fight like that rather than throwing a surprise gimmick at the end? Who knows. I am disappointed in the writers of this season, to be sure.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Couldn't see a fucking thing during the battles.

Get a better TV. Not an insult, just a fact. The cheapos dont handle the dark shades well.

Still don't know why the Dothraki did a Bravely bold Sir Robin and Ran Away.

They were on horseback. Sitting there waiting to be overrun is to turn the horses into a liability instead of an advantage.

Where did Arya come from???

She ran into the Godswood. There is a shot of the white walkers' hair moving from the breeze of her running by.

They beat the dead....so Cersei is supposed to be scary?

She has an army of 20,000 experienced mercenaries. How many fighters are left at winterfell? Maybe 200?

Personally, I think the gold company double crosses Cersei, or at the very least, is prepared to do so. The iron bank bets on winners. The moment they sense that Cersei is on the losing side, they will change their allegiance.

Great episode. The tension in the scene between the night king and bran was great. The all seeing 3 eyed raven can only see the past. And the night king can only imagine the future.

Best dragon scenes in the history of tv or movies.

Best undead scenes in history. Best battle scenes. The continuous shots (like with the haggard, shredded undead dragon beseiging winterfell from within, as jon snow navigates the carnage) were well composed with great contrast techniques. The cinematograhy in this episode is destined to win awards.

Like I said, the episode sucked even on the big Samsung flat screen. So you just type to show Soros how many electrons you kill in any given day without ever thinking of actually addressing anything.

You can clearly see how the enemy is arrayed and note the position of the dragons. To the Left you can see the Dothraki drive their fiery swords into a lake, clearly.

Who the fuck rides a dragon by holding a scale? Just fucking ridiculous. When the dragons were battling each other you couldn't tell which one was which -- awful.

Didnt the Mad King use some secret fire sauce to try to destroy Kings Landing? Why didn't they use that to defend Winterfell. Arya just sneaks up behind everyone. Wow So fucking bad

 

[Polishprince]

They do make wagers on this.

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[Darkwind]

A lot of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR's writing is eddies and dead ends. He spent 12,000 pages on Stannis -- for what?

To share the experiences of the people living in his fantasy world. To build up the hope and tension to the levels of stannis himself, and of his followers. The first person style is meant also to accomplish this. He wants the reader to feel the same letdown and hopelessness, when the best laid plans go awry. 12000 pages versus 12 accomplishes this.

The problem is that when a writer does that, they often write themselves into a corner that they can't get out of in a believable way. I specifically mentioned H.G. Wells in the OP for that very reason. In the War of the Worlds, he spent the entire novel building the Martians up to such a level that only God, in his infinite wisdom, could beat them. Poor storytelling.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They do make wagers on this.

Game Of Thrones Who Will Rule Westeros | TV

Headless Ned Stark

 

[bodecea]

I always wondered why they didn't all just refugee to Dorne for a while.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Maybe they worked on an actual outcome for a fight like that rather than throwing a surprise gimmick at the end?

Gimmick? How did you expect the night king and thus the army of the dead to be defeated? Mean thoughts? Dragon's fire didn't work. There was your surprise, and what a great feeling of hopelessness it created.

Who the fuck rides a dragon by holding a scale?

As opposed to all of those other, well known methods....

Didnt the Made King use some secret fire sauce to try to destroy Kings Landing? Why didn't they use that to defend Winterfell.

Apparently, the care package from Cersei was late arriving at Winterfell. How, exactly, were they supposed to acquire it?

 

[bodecea]

A lot of GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR's writing is eddies and dead ends. He spent 12,000 pages on Stannis -- for what?

To share the experiences of the people living in his fantasy world. To build up the hope and tension to the levels of stannis himself, and of his followers. The first person style is meant also to accomplish this. He wants the reader to feel the same letdown and hopelessness, when the best laid plans go awry. 12000 pages versus 12 accomplishes this.

The problem is that when a writer does that, they often write themselves into a corner that they can't get out of in a believable way. I specifically mentioned Orsen Wells in the OP for that very reason. In the War of the Worlds, he spent the entire novel building the Martians up to such a level that only God, in his infinite wisdom, could beat them. Poor storytelling.

That wasn't Orsen Wells, you know...that was H.G. Wells.