Game of Thrones Season 7

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I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Not sure if the Lannister lack of impulse control can be held in check.

Just ask poor Ned's head.

The description of season 7 episode 3 says "Cersei returns a gift." Does that mean she gives back Ellaria? Maybe she holds the last Sand Snake hostage, Tyene, so that her mother will comply. Which begs the question of if Bronn will save Tyene and free Dorne to back Danaerys.

Interesting. Maybe that means He offers her Yara, and Cersei gives Yara back to Eaon to kill.

That could be. After some thinking, it could be that Cersei returns the gift after it's been chopped up into little pieces.

This show is so unpredictable that there's no way to predict what will actually happen.

 

[martybegan]

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Not sure if the Lannister lack of impulse control can be held in check.

Just ask poor Ned's head.

The description of season 7 episode 3 says "Cersei returns a gift." Does that mean she gives back Ellaria? Maybe she holds the last Sand Snake hostage, Tyene, so that her mother will comply. Which begs the question of if Bronn will save Tyene and free Dorne to back Danaerys.

Interesting. Maybe that means He offers her Yara, and Cersei gives Yara back to Eaon to kill.

That could be. After some thinking, it could be that Cersei returns the gift after it's been chopped up into little pieces.

This show is so unpredictable that there's no way to predict what will actually happen.

I am actually kind of glad it has exceeded the scope of the books so I can be surprised and try to guess what is going to happen.

Although sitting down watching the expression on my Wife's face as the Red Wedding unfolded was pretty cool.

 

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Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Not sure if the Lannister lack of impulse control can be held in check.

Just ask poor Ned's head.

The description of season 7 episode 3 says "Cersei returns a gift." Does that mean she gives back Ellaria? Maybe she holds the last Sand Snake hostage, Tyene, so that her mother will comply. Which begs the question of if Bronn will save Tyene and free Dorne to back Danaerys.

Interesting. Maybe that means He offers her Yara, and Cersei gives Yara back to Eaon to kill.

That could be. After some thinking, it could be that Cersei returns the gift after it's been chopped up into little pieces.

This show is so unpredictable that there's no way to predict what will actually happen.

I am actually kind of glad it has exceeded the scope of the books so I can be surprised and try to guess what is going to happen.

Although sitting down watching the expression on my Wife's face as the Red Wedding unfolded was pretty cool.

I won't say that I'm glad Martin has taken soooooooo long in between books....but it is nice that I don't have expectations about what will happen based on the books any more.

 

[GHook93]

I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Good point.


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[martybegan]

I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Good point.


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I thought they were still on their way TOO dorne on the Rebel ironborn ships. That being said Eaon probably attacked with the whole Iron Fleet against a detachment of Yara's forces, hence the ass kicking.

 

[GHook93]

The ship boarding and sword fights were lit so darkly I couldn't see them on my computer monitor.....It's happening all over the cable mega-series....who do these short-dick directors think they are....Orson Wells?

You need to watch it on high def TV. It was pretty awesome battle. Not battle of the bastards awesome, but great indeed.

I love the part the Mother Snake says "kill us." And the Ironborn raider says "we have other plans for you."

I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily


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They were just 1 of 3 armies. Now only the Tyrell army still has their leader, and Yara's ironborn might be done with. Dany's going to have to go full dragon.

Tyrells are fractions with Sam's dad seeming to ally with the Lanisters. Tara's Ironborn is done. I am not sure that was all of the Martels, but now that the Sand Snakes and mother Snake are gone. Dorne might remain neutral.

It was always the Dorthaki and Unsully against Westros! Looks like it is again.


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[GHook93]

I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Ellaria and the one remains Sand Snake is going to be brutally tortured to death by the Mountain.

Remember, Ellaria took Dorne in a bloody coup to which the entire royal family was killed. The Dornish people might not care much for her.


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[GHook93]

Fucking Reek! He left his sister and saved himself!

Yeah he can go ahead and die now lol

Not much he could have done. Flee now and try to save her later.


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[GHook93]

I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Not sure if the Lannister lack of impulse control can be held in check.

Just ask poor Ned's head.

The description of season 7 episode 3 says "Cersei returns a gift." Does that mean she gives back Ellaria? Maybe she holds the last Sand Snake hostage, Tyene, so that her mother will comply. Which begs the question of if Bronn will save Tyene and free Dorne to back Danaerys.

Cersei is not giving Ellaria back. My guess is she gives Yara back.


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I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Ellaria and the one remains Sand Snake is going to be brutally tortured to death by the Mountain.

Remember, Ellaria took Dorne in a bloody coup to which the entire royal family was killed. The Dornish people might not care much for her.


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I agree but what's interesting is in the description of the next episode it says "Cersei returns a gift."

 

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I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Not sure if the Lannister lack of impulse control can be held in check.

Just ask poor Ned's head.

The description of season 7 episode 3 says "Cersei returns a gift." Does that mean she gives back Ellaria? Maybe she holds the last Sand Snake hostage, Tyene, so that her mother will comply. Which begs the question of if Bronn will save Tyene and free Dorne to back Danaerys.

Cersei is not giving Ellaria back. My guess is she gives Yara back.


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Oops just saw that. She could give Yara back, but the smart thing to do is send back either Ellaria or Tyene while keeping the other, so that Dorne will back her.

 

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I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Ellaria and the one remains Sand Snake is going to be brutally tortured to death by the Mountain.

Remember, Ellaria took Dorne in a bloody coup to which the entire royal family was killed. The Dornish people might not care much for her.


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I agree but what's interesting is in the description of the next episode it says "Cersei returns a gift."

This is what I found from the gift given to Joffery from Dorne for the wedding:

Prince Oberyn: a red gold brooch wrought in the shape of a scorpion;

Death for Ellaria by scorpion? Lots of Scorpions?

 

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I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Ellaria and the one remains Sand Snake is going to be brutally tortured to death by the Mountain.

Remember, Ellaria took Dorne in a bloody coup to which the entire royal family was killed. The Dornish people might not care much for her.


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I agree but what's interesting is in the description of the next episode it says "Cersei returns a gift."

This is what I found from the gift given to Joffery from Dorne for the wedding:

Prince Oberyn: a red gold brooch wrought in the shape of a scorpion;

Death for Ellaria by scorpion? Lots of Scorpions?

Ooooh that would be great if it was a totally outside the box gift. I hate having to wait until Sunday to find out.

 

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I think stupid Sansa is going to convince Jon Snow to abandon his defense against the White Walkers in order to attack Kings Landing

First Sansa is anything but stupid. Second able is not leaving the white walker fight


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sansa is selfish and silly and is what set everything in motion at the start of GoT

'oh father, I must marry Joffrey... please become the hand of the king..

oh father, you can't leave ....

great ideas that....

She was a kid, and she has paid for those childish desires.

her judgment now doesn't seem much better.

Or she's just better at hiding her intentions. None of her advice to Jon is bad, its just not what he wants to do.

Everything Sansa advises sucks

Watch how she screws up as Queen of the North

 

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So.....Sam is still kicking ass and doing what can't be done
Tyron is still the wisest man in the seven kingdoms
Sansa still has no clue
Reek still reeks
Mere wolves are of no use

 

[GHook93]

I did think it was implausible that an army that was supposed to be able to take King's Landing could be defeated so easily.

The army being transported isnt a marine force. They excel at land battles, not naval battles. That army also wasn't supposed to invade Kings Landing. They were merely going to surround the city and starve them out, which removes any advantage Kings Landing had as a garrisoned city with walls.

Dorne's army wasn't with them. That's where they were heading. They're still around but their leader's been captured. Cersei could theoretically hold Dorne at bay by keeping Ellaria hostage, if her revenge fantasy's don't get the better of her.

Ellaria and the one remains Sand Snake is going to be brutally tortured to death by the Mountain.

Remember, Ellaria took Dorne in a bloody coup to which the entire royal family was killed. The Dornish people might not care much for her.


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I agree but what's interesting is in the description of the next episode it says "Cersei returns a gift."

Could be the bloody corpse of Ellaria to Dorne


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[GHook93]

First Sansa is anything but stupid. Second able is not leaving the white walker fight


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sansa is selfish and silly and is what set everything in motion at the start of GoT

'oh father, I must marry Joffrey... please become the hand of the king..

oh father, you can't leave ....

great ideas that....

She was a kid, and she has paid for those childish desires.

her judgment now doesn't seem much better.

Or she's just better at hiding her intentions. None of her advice to Jon is bad, its just not what he wants to do.

Everything Sansa advises sucks

Watch how she screws up as Queen of the North

Not true at all. I think she will do fine.


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[bodecea]

sam has just enough title to allow it....his father tossed him out for being a coward....or else he would have been a lord?

Waiting for daddy to come after him for taking his sword....any yet, nothing.

 

[bodecea]

That would be too easy

I would think the Dragons would be consumed in the fighting to the South.

To me the North will be ignored by both Cercie and Danarys until the wall comes a tumbling down (or at least part of it).

I think stupid Sansa is going to convince Jon Snow to abandon his defense against the White Walkers in order to attack Kings Landing

First Sansa is anything but stupid. Second able is not leaving the white walker fight


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sansa is selfish and silly and is what set everything in motion at the start of GoT

'oh father, I must marry Joffrey... please become the hand of the king..

oh father, you can't leave ....

great ideas that....

Littlefinger started it all by revealing that Jon Arryn had been murdered by the Lannisters. That's what started it all. And Bran climbing the walls when he was specifically told not to.

Except John Arryn was not murdered by the Lannisters, he was poisoned by his own wife who Littlefinger talked into it.

 

[bodecea]

I think stupid Sansa is going to convince Jon Snow to abandon his defense against the White Walkers in order to attack Kings Landing

First Sansa is anything but stupid. Second able is not leaving the white walker fight


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sansa is selfish and silly and is what set everything in motion at the start of GoT

'oh father, I must marry Joffrey... please become the hand of the king..

oh father, you can't leave ....

great ideas that....

She was a kid, and she has paid for those childish desires.

her judgment now doesn't seem much better.

Or she's just better at hiding her intentions. None of her advice to Jon is bad, its just not what he wants to do.

Totally inappropriate to argue with him in front of everyone.