Fox: Deliberate Misinformation

[Father Time]

Trust me...I try

I can go about 10 minutes before I become irate at their shabby excuse for a news network. I tried to watch professional wrestling too. I figured all these people who watch must see something in it.
Like Fox, I came to the realization that the fans are just idiots.

but you admit you watch it RW....and so do all the other left leaning crowd here.....WHY?.....christ i cant stand watching any of those news shows lib or cons......if they SUCK,why are you watching giving them the ratings they have,and then turn around and bitch about it.....if you have to watch something on Fox....try Fringe,Bones....this new one Human Target aint bad either.....the so called news shows suck,and if you watch it daily,then you must be one of the IDIOTS Rw mentions above....

I cant speak for RW but I know I get my fox info from msnbc. They ALWAYS point out the hypocrisy from them. I also listen to Stephanie miller on xm who does this bit daily on her show. She points out right wing crap daily and everything ...EVERYTHING she says is factual.

No need to watch beck or hannity or fox and friends to know how dumb those idiots are. You can get full quotes in context from their shows easily. That is enough for me.

This last stunt by fox proves everything. They will let you see what they want you to see. If you disagree, explain why they stopped the president 20 minutes early or why they were actually talking after the question was asked and he was responding?

How do you spin that?

Pretend this was a question of whether Fox had the right to do that, not whether it makes them biased and say something like 'it's their channel'.

 

[Zona]

Yeah...I guess that must be true seeing as you said it as fact.

And I guess 49% of the people are too stupid to realize it.

49% of americans watch fox? well, I hate to tell you this but less than 5% of Americans watch fox. That means 95% of Americans have some sense.

Thank god.

you're such a moron....

now give us the percentage who watch other news channels....be honest for once

I dont care about the other stations...there are over 300 million people in the united states....over 95% of them DO NOT WATCH FOX.

Do the math and come back and apologize.

 

[Oldandtired]

49% of americans watch fox? well, I hate to tell you this but less than 5% of Americans watch fox. That means 95% of Americans have some sense.

Thank god.

you're such a moron....

now give us the percentage who watch other news channels....be honest for once

I dont care about the other stations...there are over 300 million people in the united states....over 95% of them DO NOT WATCH FOX.

Do the math and come back and apologize.

Apologize for your inability to read?
The discussion had to do with the poll. The poll referred to THOSE THAT REGULARLY WATCH THE NEWS.
I did not need to continually refer to those polled as people that watch the news regularly..

Unless, of course, I come across someone who is too lazy to refer to the actual poll.

Are you too lazy to read the poll? Huh? Is that the problem? You are a lazy know nothing do nothing loser and so the rest of us need to be careful and ensure you are completely up to date with the facts becuse you are a lazy no good good for nothing loser? Huh? Is that the way it is with you? Is it? I mean...really...if it is, I understand.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

you're such a moron....

now give us the percentage who watch other news channels....be honest for once

I dont care about the other stations...there are over 300 million people in the united states....over 95% of them DO NOT WATCH FOX.

Do the math and come back and apologize.

Apologize for your inability to read?
The discussion had to do with the poll. The poll referred to THOSE THAT REGULARLY WATCH THE NEWS.
I did not need to continually refer to those polled as people that watch the news regularly..

Unless, of course, I come across someone who is too lazy to refer to the actual poll.

Are you too lazy to read the poll? Huh? Is that the problem? You are a lazy know nothing do nothing loser and so the rest of us need to be careful and ensure you are completely up to date with the facts becuse you are a lazy no good good for nothing loser? Huh? Is that the way it is with you? Is it? I mean...really...if it is, I understand.

I think that's exactly the way it is for him. Oh and one other thing about Zona, he thinks his word should be good enough, he almost never supports his argument (if you can call them that ) with any facts or sources. In my opinion, he's nothing but a troll.

 

[driveby]

FOX: 'Deliberate misinformation'? - THE WEEK

New York Times columnist Paul Krugman accused Fox News of spreading "deliberate misinformation" about the health-care reform bill and other important issues -- and he made the complaint directly to Fox News CEO Roger Ailes. Krugman, appearing with Ailes and others on a ABC's "This Week" on Sunday, said that the bill was actually a Republican plan, first championed by Mitt Romney, but many people don't realize that because Fox News has tried to convince people it was socialism. Ailes said "the American people are not stupid," and if they're confused about the health plan it's because the bill's supporters tried to "hide" elements the public wouldn't like in a 2,000 page bill. Does Fox News try to get at the truth -- or does it intentionally mislead its viewers?

The Left: Deliberate misinformation and demonization.

The End.....

 

[Zona]

I dont care about the other stations...there are over 300 million people in the united states....over 95% of them DO NOT WATCH FOX.

Do the math and come back and apologize.

Apologize for your inability to read?
The discussion had to do with the poll. The poll referred to THOSE THAT REGULARLY WATCH THE NEWS.
I did not need to continually refer to those polled as people that watch the news regularly..

Unless, of course, I come across someone who is too lazy to refer to the actual poll.

Are you too lazy to read the poll? Huh? Is that the problem? You are a lazy know nothing do nothing loser and so the rest of us need to be careful and ensure you are completely up to date with the facts becuse you are a lazy no good good for nothing loser? Huh? Is that the way it is with you? Is it? I mean...really...if it is, I understand.

I think that's exactly the way it is for him. Oh and one other thing about Zona, he thinks his word should be good enough, he almost never supports his argument (if you can call them that ) with any facts or sources. In my opinion, he's nothing but a troll.

over 300 million people in america....more than 95% of americans do not watch fox. Agree? I thought so.

 

[Zona]

but you admit you watch it RW....and so do all the other left leaning crowd here.....WHY?.....christ i cant stand watching any of those news shows lib or cons......if they SUCK,why are you watching giving them the ratings they have,and then turn around and bitch about it.....if you have to watch something on Fox....try Fringe,Bones....this new one Human Target aint bad either.....the so called news shows suck,and if you watch it daily,then you must be one of the IDIOTS Rw mentions above....

I cant speak for RW but I know I get my fox info from msnbc. They ALWAYS point out the hypocrisy from them. I also listen to Stephanie miller on xm who does this bit daily on her show. She points out right wing crap daily and everything ...EVERYTHING she says is factual.

No need to watch beck or hannity or fox and friends to know how dumb those idiots are. You can get full quotes in context from their shows easily. That is enough for me.

This last stunt by fox proves everything. They will let you see what they want you to see. If you disagree, explain why they stopped the president 20 minutes early or why they were actually talking after the question was asked and he was responding?

How do you spin that?

Pretend this was a question of whether Fox had the right to do that, not whether it makes them biased and say something like 'it's their channel'.

Of course they have the right to cut off information because it wasn't helping their agenda....they also have the right to call themselves fair and balanced....this is not in dispute. The sad part is fox fans are rubes who actually believe they are getting information that is fair and balanced. Fox is dumbing down a lot...A LOT of Americans.

from what I understand, fox fans are mostly elderly and with minimal education. This explains their ratings really.

 

[Harry Dresden]

A bank robber goes to court to argue his innocence.

Fox went to court to argue that lying and calling it 'news' is just fine.


'Fair and Balanced'? They went to court to defend their right to be anything but.

and apparently a jury of our peers agreed with them....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I have the distinct impression that people like rightwinger and his libby cohorts watch Fox more than any repudlicans do

Trust me...I try

I can go about 10 minutes before I become irate at their shabby excuse for a news network. I tried to watch professional wrestling too. I figured all these people who watch must see something in it.
Like Fox, I came to the realization that the fans are just idiots.

Fox talking heads shows, american idol, project runway....same thing.

wholeheartedly agree....may i recomend Bones,Fringe and this new one The Human Target....but mind you....you will have to follow a story line.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I cant speak for RW but I know I get my fox info from msnbc. They ALWAYS point out the hypocrisy from them. I also listen to Stephanie miller on xm who does this bit daily on her show. She points out right wing crap daily and everything ...EVERYTHING she says is factual.

No need to watch beck or hannity or fox and friends to know how dumb those idiots are. You can get full quotes in context from their shows easily. That is enough for me.

This last stunt by fox proves everything. They will let you see what they want you to see. If you disagree, explain why they stopped the president 20 minutes early or why they were actually talking after the question was asked and he was responding?

How do you spin that?

so in other words.....you just let a bunch of other talking heads tell you whats going on....and of course Stephanie Miller is ALWAYS factual.....Geezus Zona and your putting the fox listeners down.....

 

[Zona]

I cant speak for RW but I know I get my fox info from msnbc. They ALWAYS point out the hypocrisy from them. I also listen to Stephanie miller on xm who does this bit daily on her show. She points out right wing crap daily and everything ...EVERYTHING she says is factual.

No need to watch beck or hannity or fox and friends to know how dumb those idiots are. You can get full quotes in context from their shows easily. That is enough for me.

This last stunt by fox proves everything. They will let you see what they want you to see. If you disagree, explain why they stopped the president 20 minutes early or why they were actually talking after the question was asked and he was responding?

How do you spin that?

so in other words.....you just let a bunch of other talking heads tell you whats going on....and of course Stephanie Miller is ALWAYS factual.....Geezus Zona and your putting the fox listeners down.....

The biggest difference is, FOX LIES. MSNBC calls them out on it.

Geezus, you still dont get it.... Oh and Stephanie miller rules! Funny show and I love when she calls righty's out on their hypocrisy. Funny show.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Who the hell is Stephanie Miller?

 

[Harry Dresden]

I cant speak for RW but I know I get my fox info from msnbc. They ALWAYS point out the hypocrisy from them. I also listen to Stephanie miller on xm who does this bit daily on her show. She points out right wing crap daily and everything ...EVERYTHING she says is factual.

No need to watch beck or hannity or fox and friends to know how dumb those idiots are. You can get full quotes in context from their shows easily. That is enough for me.

This last stunt by fox proves everything. They will let you see what they want you to see. If you disagree, explain why they stopped the president 20 minutes early or why they were actually talking after the question was asked and he was responding?

How do you spin that?

so in other words.....you just let a bunch of other talking heads tell you whats going on....and of course Stephanie Miller is ALWAYS factual.....Geezus Zona and your putting the fox listeners down.....

The biggest difference is, FOX LIES. MSNBC calls them out on it.

Geezus, you still dont get it.... Oh and Stephanie miller rules! Funny show and I love when she calls righty's out on their hypocrisy. Funny show.

because these particular heads say they lie?.....Zona YOU dont get it....the fox followers say that your full of shit......your doing the same thing they are....relying on a bunch of opinionated morons to tell you whats up....and about 2 years ago out here Miller got her ass handed to her by two radio guys named John And Ken for her bullshit....and these guys take on all the parties.....they are equal opportunity exposers....Stephanie Miller is just another talking head....what a joke....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Who the hell is Stephanie Miller?

another flunky who shoots her mouth off.....and idiots like Zona eat it up....

 

[☭proletarian☭]

That Fox lies is a fact. It was established in a court of law. Fox fought for the right to lie.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

That Fox lies is a fact. It was established in a court of law. Fox fought for the right to lie.

Ignorance such as this is what the left embraces. I'm sure you're not interested in the facts of the case, but for those that are, here are the facts. Fox News didn't sue for the "right to lie" as you suggest, in careful reading of the jury instruction the jury was only answering whether they believed Akre had been fired for threatening to lodge a complaint with the FCC alleging broadcast of a false, distorted, or slanted news report, not whether the news report was in fact false, distorted, or slanted.

The FCC included this footnote, "Although there has been much back-and-forth among the parties about whether the jury in the employment lawsuit found that Station WTVT(TV) violated the news distortion policy, the verdict form did not ask the jury to determine whether WTVT(TV) violated the news distortion policy, but rather to determine whether Station WTVT(TV) fired either employee for threatening to disclose what the Petitioners reasonably believed would be a violation of the news distortion policy."

So the trial jury never reached a conclusion on whether the FOX affiliate had violated the news distortion policy, nor did they have to in order to determine if they had been fired in response to the threat by Akre and Wilson to file a complaint with the FCC.

More importantly, and more relevant to the examination of whether WTVT actually asserted a"right to lie"in its newscasts, is that there is nothing on record to show that this argument was ever advanced in court.

Whatever the truth of the dispute between the two reporters and WTVT, it seems clear that the station did not at the trial court level admit that it had attempted to distort the news story or assert the"right to lie"in its broadcasts. Instead, the station claimed its editorial decisions were based on an effort to air a fair and accurate story, and defended its editorial prerogatives under the First Amendment - editorial prerogatives that are indisputable, if the guarantee of a free press means anything.

Further evidence that WTVT did not assert at the trial court level any"right to lie"or distort the news is that neither Akre's response to WTVT's initial appeal brief nor the petition she and Wilson filed with the FCC make any reference at all to such a claim. Surely, had a claim for a First Amendment" right to lie" in news broadcasts been made at the trial court level, some mention of it would have found its way into either of these two documents (Akre's brief to the appellate court runs 57 pages, and the FCC petition runs over 90 pages including appendices).

A review of both the initial brief and the reply brief of WTVT for the appeal also reveals no mention whatsoever of a "right to lie" defense. Not surprisingly, the station's brief does contain multiple references to the First Amendment supporting the contention that editorial decisions and disputes are beyond the purview of the government.
FOX, Lies & Videotape: debunking an internet mythBlog Center for Competitive Politics

 

[Harry Dresden]

That Fox lies is a fact. It was established in a court of law. Fox fought for the right to lie.

and a jury of 12 people apparently agreed.....

 

[Lonestar_logic]

That Fox lies is a fact. It was established in a court of law. Fox fought for the right to lie.

and a jury of 12 people apparently agreed.....

Were you born stupid or is it something you strive for? Fact is dumbass the trial had nothing to do with whether or not "lies" had or had not been told or demanded. Even after I posted the facts of the case you ignorant fucks still don't get it.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

http://www.2dca.org/opinions/Opinion_Pages/Opinion_Page_2003/February/February%2014,%202003/2D01-529.pdf

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