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Trump means what he says! Thanks, Ms. USMB conservative librarian. :)

LOL, "Trump means what he says!??? Since when? He flips and flops more than a fat tuna on the deck with a rolling swell running.
When we voted for President Trump(you disrespectful asshat) we knew he wasn't perfect, but he said he was going to Make America Great Again, while you bitch was talking about continuing the divisiveness of Obama. Guess what ? Now for Mr. President flip and flop, remember this guy? Obama's Sec of State(2nd term)



So tell me, Einstein, how does one MAGA by a build up in Afghanistan an un winnable war? No better than Obama or Bush. I guess if Trump walk into an active volcano you would follow. No one has ever won there and no one will. Just more kids and grandkids dying to protect us from what again? Don't tell me terrorists, they will always be.

It's only unwinnable if you are a Terrorist Coddling and Financing Scum Bag Leftist Like Obama who undermined our military, actually gave millions in weapons and money to terrorists, and who hamstrung our military and our generals with micromanagement, and social experimentation for bathroom confused genetically defective morons.

Next Question

Any war could of been won, like the Revolutionary War, where the ragtag US colonialist militia defeated the greatest war machine at its time, to WWII when their were no rules of engagement except kill the enemy or be killed. Once the flaming liberals got in charge and put parallels not to cross, and cant harm certain buildings, then that was a no win situation. Let the greatest WAR MACHINE loose(release the dogs of war) make war on the terrorist of Islam, and there wont be terrorists anymore.


You live in never never land if you think there won't be any terrorists no more. Libs? Why didn't Bush win? It's not winnable.
 
A policy speech with no policy mentioned. Perfectly Trumpian.

Only Someone who Worshipped Obama Bin Dick Sucking would say that.
Plenty of Policy there.

Including not being a fucking coward like Obama Bin Spying is.
And I am sure it pissed you off that The President talked about Love, Unity, Commitment to a cause, Patriotism, and standing up against Bigotry.

I mean, that beautiful speech, talking about Equality, Brotherhood, Bravery, Love and Self Sacrifice just had to send you Postal.

And it really had to piss you off, that The President said, People in Foreign Countries have a right to run their own countries in the way THEY SEE FIT, and not as we think they should.

Did you kick a puppy, and steal candy from any babies last night after the speech or did you just go down to the liquor store, buy some Thunderbird, and drink yourself to sleep as you sobbed and cried over ......

Muh Shrillery?

& No More.....

Muh Putin?
So you wingers are seig heiling Trump for continuing Bush's and Obama's Afghanistan quagmire? Isn't he the one who thought it was a stupid mistake? What is to be gained that hasn't already been done yet after 16 years?
Bush's Afghanistan Policies were successful. Obama Sabotaged them, same as he did in Iraq.

Obama's policies were disastrous, but then again, he was too busy paying terrorists for the privilege of sucking their cocks and swallowing their jizz, and giving them money and weapons to stage coups and assassinations for him in direct violation of International Law. They got caught doing it in Benghazi, but The UN's Dark Messiah, and Satan's favorite son never got called on it. Same with Syria, Egypt and Yemen.

And then of course he lubed up his tight asshole so Iran could bunghole him with their ICBMS paid for by us with Obama's help, when he violated sanctions to do it, and then also helped both them and Korea develop Nuclear weapons.

They should not be building a Library for Obama Bin Lying, they should be building a Gallows for him after his Treason Trial, when he is found guilty of being a Marxist Back Stabbing Asshole Seditious Traitor. He makes Benedict Arnold look like Mother Theresa.

FUCK HIM and anyone who supports him. He is a War Criminal.
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LOL, "Trump means what he says!??? Since when? He flips and flops more than a fat tuna on the deck with a rolling swell running.
When we voted for President Trump(you disrespectful asshat) we knew he wasn't perfect, but he said he was going to Make America Great Again, while you bitch was talking about continuing the divisiveness of Obama. Guess what ? Now for Mr. President flip and flop, remember this guy? Obama's Sec of State(2nd term)



So tell me, Einstein, how does one MAGA by a build up in Afghanistan an un winnable war? No better than Obama or Bush. I guess if Trump walk into an active volcano you would follow. No one has ever won there and no one will. Just more kids and grandkids dying to protect us from what again? Don't tell me terrorists, they will always be.

It's only unwinnable if you are a Terrorist Coddling and Financing Scum Bag Leftist Like Obama who undermined our military, actually gave millions in weapons and money to terrorists, and who hamstrung our military and our generals with micromanagement, and social experimentation for bathroom confused genetically defective morons.

Next Question

Any war could of been won, like the Revolutionary War, where the ragtag US colonialist militia defeated the greatest war machine at its time, to WWII when their were no rules of engagement except kill the enemy or be killed. Once the flaming liberals got in charge and put parallels not to cross, and cant harm certain buildings, then that was a no win situation. Let the greatest WAR MACHINE loose(release the dogs of war) make war on the terrorist of Islam, and there wont be terrorists anymore.


You live in never never land if you think there won't be any terrorists no more. Libs? Why didn't Bush win? It's not winnable.

Fuck off ISIS SCUMBAG!
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We can and will win. There will be Hell to pay!
And you will pay Hell with your blood and the blood of your children.
 
LOL, "Trump means what he says!??? Since when? He flips and flops more than a fat tuna on the deck with a rolling swell running.
When we voted for President Trump(you disrespectful asshat) we knew he wasn't perfect, but he said he was going to Make America Great Again, while you bitch was talking about continuing the divisiveness of Obama. Guess what ? Now for Mr. President flip and flop, remember this guy? Obama's Sec of State(2nd term)



So tell me, Einstein, how does one MAGA by a build up in Afghanistan an un winnable war? No better than Obama or Bush. I guess if Trump walk into an active volcano you would follow. No one has ever won there and no one will. Just more kids and grandkids dying to protect us from what again? Don't tell me terrorists, they will always be.

It's only unwinnable if you are a Terrorist Coddling and Financing Scum Bag Leftist Like Obama who undermined our military, actually gave millions in weapons and money to terrorists, and who hamstrung our military and our generals with micromanagement, and social experimentation for bathroom confused genetically defective morons.

Next Question

Any war could of been won, like the Revolutionary War, where the ragtag US colonialist militia defeated the greatest war machine at its time, to WWII when their were no rules of engagement except kill the enemy or be killed. Once the flaming liberals got in charge and put parallels not to cross, and cant harm certain buildings, then that was a no win situation. Let the greatest WAR MACHINE loose(release the dogs of war) make war on the terrorist of Islam, and there wont be terrorists anymore.


You live in never never land if you think there won't be any terrorists no more. Libs? Why didn't Bush win? It's not winnable.




Amazing how similar your post is to the losers who complained about Reagan, making similar claims about the USSR:

a. First, there is John Kenneth Galbraith, considered a saint and Liberal icon, who, in 1984, offered his considered opinion of the future of communism:
"That the Soviet system has made great material progress in recent years is evident both from the statistics and from the general urban scene. . . . One sees it in the appearance of solid well-being of the people on the streets . . . and the general aspect of restaurants, theatres and shops. . . . Partly, the Russian system succeeds because, in contrast with the Western industrial economies, it makes full use of its manpower." FACTS FROM THE U.S.S.R.



b. In 1989 Thurow wrote this:

“Can economic command [communism, as opposed to the free market] significantly … accelerate the growth process? The remarkable performance of the Soviet Union suggests that it can … Today the Soviet Union is a country whose economic achievements bear comparison with those of the United States.” Justice to Ronald Reagan


Get that????

Another 'we can't win' Liberal


c. " I was so amazed by the Fortune quotations from [Paul] Samuleson text that I started looking through the book to see what else he had written about communism. It seemed to me utterly incredible that an otherwise great economist could parrot idiotic Marxist propaganda. At a time when it was apparent even to the most willfully blind Marxist in Central Europe and the USSR, when even Gorbachev was beginning to hint at the magnitude of the Soviet economic disaster, the 1985 Samuelson text offered these paragraphs:


<< "But it would be misleading to dwell on the shortcomings. Every economy has its contradictions and difficulties with incentives--witness the paradoxes raised by the separation of ownership and control in America...


<< "What counts is results, and there can be no doubt that the Soviet planning system has been a powerful engine for economic growth."


<< And again, writes Samuelson:


<< "The Soviet model has surely demonstrated that a command economy is capable of mobilizing resources for rapid growth and awesome military power."
http://www.beichman.com/Articles/SAMUELSN.htm



d. Being wrong never seems to stunt the careers of Leftists. Take Strobe Talbott, "American foreign policy analyst associated with Yale University and the Brookings Institution, a former journalist associated with Time magazine, and a diplomat who served as [Bill Clinton's] Deputy Secretary of Statefrom 1994 to 2001." Strobe Talbott - Wikipedia


Talbott wrote this in 1981, clearly a shot at Reagan:

"Though some second-echelon hardliners in the Reagan administration...espouse the early 1950s goal of rolling back Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, the US simply does not have the military or political power to do that."

He doesn't need to take back what what clearly wrong, because dunces like #24 and #25 above are ready to accept any lies, as long as they come from the Left.





Soooo.....which comes first....being a dunce or being a Liberal??
 
We have gone from a President who dedicated his term to presiding over America's decline.....to one who speaks of greatness, winning, and victory.



13. "Our troops will fight to win. We will fight to win. From now on, victory will have a clear definition. Attacking our enemies, obliterating ISIS, crushing Al Qaeda, preventing the Taliban from taking over Afghanistan and stopping mass terror attacks against America before they emerge.

When America commits its warriors to battle, we must ensure they have every weapon to apply swift, decisive and overwhelming force."
Full Transcript and Video: Trump’s Speech on Afghanistan


Unlike the losers....er, Liberals.....I hope for his....and our.....success.
 
I disagree. First what is victory in Afghanistan? We don't want to lose. But what is the victory going to look like? We have no idea. We are clueless. We want to end the Islamic Terror, but how the hell do you drag a bunch of people stuck in the seventh century into modern secular society? Victory is impossible. We can't win in less than a century. John McCain was right about that. We have to being modern civilization and education to the people, and it will take three or four generations to make a dent.

We are throwing good money and lives after the bad. All so we don't have to admit we lost. The best we can hope for is Nixons peace with honor which lasted about a year until the North came down and won.

One day we will be forced to leave Afghanistan. We will blame liberals and whoever we want. But the truth is that you can't conquer a people who won't quit. More people wasted. More money wasted. All so we can fight not to lose.
 
I disagree. First what is victory in Afghanistan? We don't want to lose. But what is the victory going to look like? We have no idea. We are clueless. We want to end the Islamic Terror, but how the hell do you drag a bunch of people stuck in the seventh century into modern secular society? Victory is impossible. We can't win in less than a century. John McCain was right about that. We have to being modern civilization and education to the people, and it will take three or four generations to make a dent.

We are throwing good money and lives after the bad. All so we don't have to admit we lost. The best we can hope for is Nixons peace with honor which lasted about a year until the North came down and won.

One day we will be forced to leave Afghanistan. We will blame liberals and whoever we want. But the truth is that you can't conquer a people who won't quit. More people wasted. More money wasted. All so we can fight not to lose.
Per The President's Statements, we aren't dragging anyone in to modern secular society.
We are going to KILL TERRORISTS. End of story.

If they want to marry sheep and goats, and treat their women like cattle, we don't have to deal with them economically. Nor are we going to care if they become democracies or not. This is THE RIGHT STRATEGY.

The only thing important is to make Terrorism Painful for the people that engage in it and countries that encourage it and give safe harbor to it.

If you are so confident we are going to lose, then go join ISIS and the Taliban and quit vomiting their propaganda up here on our message board. We do not need, do not want, and should not tolerate traitors in our midst.

Ollie Assburn!
 
3. The men and women of our military operate as one team, with one shared mission and one shared sense of purpose. They transcend every line of race, ethnicity, creed and color ... all service members are brothers and sisters. They’re all part of the same family. ... America requires love for all of its people.

[And, again....the very opposite of the Democrat/Liberal Identity Politics. I bet he even included white males in that!]

And transexuals..
 
LOL, "Trump means what he says!??? Since when? He flips and flops more than a fat tuna on the deck with a rolling swell running.
When we voted for President Trump(you disrespectful asshat) we knew he wasn't perfect, but he said he was going to Make America Great Again, while you bitch was talking about continuing the divisiveness of Obama. Guess what ? Now for Mr. President flip and flop, remember this guy? Obama's Sec of State(2nd term)



So tell me, Einstein, how does one MAGA by a build up in Afghanistan an un winnable war? No better than Obama or Bush. I guess if Trump walk into an active volcano you would follow. No one has ever won there and no one will. Just more kids and grandkids dying to protect us from what again? Don't tell me terrorists, they will always be.

It's only unwinnable if you are a Terrorist Coddling and Financing Scum Bag Leftist Like Obama who undermined our military, actually gave millions in weapons and money to terrorists, and who hamstrung our military and our generals with micromanagement, and social experimentation for bathroom confused genetically defective morons.

Just some advice.... You aren't supposed to lick the toilet bowl clean when you are doing your janitorial duties at Obama's "Resist" headquarters.

Next Question

So...you want to WIN in Afghanistan....what does a WIN look like to you?

Kinda like more of this..

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5381594247001

And a lot of this.

US military release cockpit video showing Thursday’s Moab strike in Afghanistan. The GBU-43/B bomb - colloquially called the “mother of all bombs” - targeted a tunnel complex in the Achin district of the eastern province of Nangarhar, used by Isis’s Afghanistan affiliate


Hopefully more Liberals will join the Jihad and end up on the wrong side of a MOAB.
Doubtful since No Liberal ever Voluntarily died for any cause they bitched about.

So....you are claiming that we win in Afghanistan when we drop a MOAB? Oh....if it were only that easy. Try again.
 
When we voted for President Trump(you disrespectful asshat) we knew he wasn't perfect, but he said he was going to Make America Great Again, while you bitch was talking about continuing the divisiveness of Obama. Guess what ? Now for Mr. President flip and flop, remember this guy? Obama's Sec of State(2nd term)



So tell me, Einstein, how does one MAGA by a build up in Afghanistan an un winnable war? No better than Obama or Bush. I guess if Trump walk into an active volcano you would follow. No one has ever won there and no one will. Just more kids and grandkids dying to protect us from what again? Don't tell me terrorists, they will always be.

It's only unwinnable if you are a Terrorist Coddling and Financing Scum Bag Leftist Like Obama who undermined our military, actually gave millions in weapons and money to terrorists, and who hamstrung our military and our generals with micromanagement, and social experimentation for bathroom confused genetically defective morons.

Just some advice.... You aren't supposed to lick the toilet bowl clean when you are doing your janitorial duties at Obama's "Resist" headquarters.

Next Question

So...you want to WIN in Afghanistan....what does a WIN look like to you?

Kinda like more of this..

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5381594247001

And a lot of this.

US military release cockpit video showing Thursday’s Moab strike in Afghanistan. The GBU-43/B bomb - colloquially called the “mother of all bombs” - targeted a tunnel complex in the Achin district of the eastern province of Nangarhar, used by Isis’s Afghanistan affiliate


Hopefully more Liberals will join the Jihad and end up on the wrong side of a MOAB.
Doubtful since No Liberal ever Voluntarily died for any cause they bitched about.

So....you are claiming that we win in Afghanistan when we drop a MOAB? Oh....if it were only that easy. Try again.

He's showing his love of liberal military veterans..
 
We have gone from a President who dedicated his term to presiding over America's decline.....to one who speaks of greatness, winning, and victory.



13. "Our troops will fight to win. We will fight to win. From now on, victory will have a clear definition. Attacking our enemies, obliterating ISIS, crushing Al Qaeda, preventing the Taliban from taking over Afghanistan and stopping mass terror attacks against America before they emerge.

When America commits its warriors to battle, we must ensure they have every weapon to apply swift, decisive and overwhelming force."
Full Transcript and Video: Trump’s Speech on Afghanistan


Unlike the losers....er, Liberals.....I hope for his....and our.....success.
So...it's all about talking a good game to you.....not action.
 
A policy speech with no policy mentioned. Perfectly Trumpian.

Only Someone who Worshipped Obama Bin Dick Sucking would say that.
Plenty of Policy there.

Including not being a fucking coward like Obama Bin Spying is.
And I am sure it pissed you off that The President talked about Love, Unity, Commitment to a cause, Patriotism, and standing up against Bigotry.

I mean, that beautiful speech, talking about Equality, Brotherhood, Bravery, Love and Self Sacrifice just had to send you Postal.

And it really had to piss you off, that The President said, People in Foreign Countries have a right to run their own countries in the way THEY SEE FIT, and not as we think they should.

Did you kick a puppy, and steal candy from any babies last night after the speech or did you just go down to the liquor store, buy some Thunderbird, and drink yourself to sleep as you sobbed and cried over ......

Muh Shrillery?

& No More.....

Muh Putin?
So you wingers are seig heiling Trump for continuing Bush's and Obama's Afghanistan quagmire? Isn't he the one who thought it was a stupid mistake? What is to be gained that hasn't already been done yet after 16 years?
Bush's Afghanistan Policies were successful. Obama Sabotaged them, same as he did in Iraq.

Obama's policies were disastrous, but then again, he was too busy paying terrorists for the privilege of sucking their cocks and swallowing their jizz, and giving them money and weapons to stage coups and assassinations for him in direct violation of International Law. They got caught doing it in Benghazi, but The UN's Dark Messiah, and Satan's favorite son never got called on it. Same with Syria, Egypt and Yemen.

And then of course he lubed up his tight asshole so Iran could bunghole him with their ICBMS paid for by us with Obama's help, when he violated sanctions to do it, and then also helped both them and Korea develop Nuclear weapons.

They should not be building a Library for Obama Bin Lying, they should be building a Gallows for him after his Treason Trial, when he is found guilty of being a Marxist Back Stabbing Asshole Seditious Traitor. He makes Benedict Arnold look like Mother Theresa.

FUCK HIM and anyone who supports him. He is a War Criminal.
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What Afghanistan policy of Bush was ever successful? All he ever did was let Bin Laden go at Tora Bora and then abandon everything so he could go and invade the wrong country. Nothing has been accomplished there in 16 years. It's a fucking tar baby. He should cut our losses and get the fuck out.
 
I disagree. First what is victory in Afghanistan? We don't want to lose. But what is the victory going to look like? We have no idea. We are clueless. We want to end the Islamic Terror, but how the hell do you drag a bunch of people stuck in the seventh century into modern secular society? Victory is impossible. We can't win in less than a century. John McCain was right about that. We have to being modern civilization and education to the people, and it will take three or four generations to make a dent.

We are throwing good money and lives after the bad. All so we don't have to admit we lost. The best we can hope for is Nixons peace with honor which lasted about a year until the North came down and won.

One day we will be forced to leave Afghanistan. We will blame liberals and whoever we want. But the truth is that you can't conquer a people who won't quit. More people wasted. More money wasted. All so we can fight not to lose.
Per The President's Statements, we aren't dragging anyone in to modern secular society.
We are going to KILL TERRORISTS. End of story.

If they want to marry sheep and goats, and treat their women like cattle, we don't have to deal with them economically. Nor are we going to care if they become democracies or not. This is THE RIGHT STRATEGY.

The only thing important is to make Terrorism Painful for the people that engage in it and countries that encourage it and give safe harbor to it.

If you are so confident we are going to lose, then go join ISIS and the Taliban and quit vomiting their propaganda up here on our message board. We do not need, do not want, and should not tolerate traitors in our midst.

Ollie Assburn!

Let me get this straight. Either I convert to a faith I don't believe in, or I support useless and wasteful military action because. Um. 'Merica dude.

We haven't made a dent in Terrorism since 9-11. We haven't. Terrorists now have huge swaths of Territory in Libya, thanks to an asinine belief that we had to get Gadaffi out. Thank Hillary and Obama, or blame them, but their actions were no dumber than anyone else who thinks that the answer is more war.

Tell me the one time a people were conquered in history successfully. Go ahead. I'll tell you now, the answer is not what you think. The only time was the American fight to occupy America. The Indians were not unified, and were taken piecemeal, if the Indians had a million people the colonists would have fled back to Europe with their tails between their legs.

Otherwise, if the people don't want to live with us, they don't. Look at Africa, the Whites were in charge, for a while, a blip in the thousands of years of history. Yet, who is in charge now? The Whites could not keep the people subjugated forever. People want to make their own decisions, and live according to their own beliefs.

So you bomb a few terrorists, and create that many more believers who are out to avenge the death of a friend, a relative, whatever. We crushed Al Queda, and created ISIS. We were going to defeat them by calling them Daesh. Which was asinine. We won World War II because the people had endured enough. But even then, we had to rebuild them as nationalists instead of subjugated people. Nationalists in the region we're talking about are Islamic, which means they will always resent the Infidels who fought and "freed" them.

Islamic Terror is worse now than it was before 9-11. Sixteen years of war on terror, and we've accomplished nothing except making defense industries richer making new high tech awesomeness that will kill terrorists by the thousands.

I'm not saying surrender. I'm saying realize the fucking truth. Pouring more into Afghanistan is stupid. Trump was right during the campaign, it was past time to get the hell out. It was past time to cut our losses and leave the people to their own hell. A hell they have to decide to change, a hell of their own making. Nope, we might look like we lost, and no politician will ever admit defeat. Hillary on election night is proof of that. The democrats since if you need more proof.

Look, we're pouring lives and treasure into a cesspool. We can't defeat terrorism with bombs. We have to have the people reject it. The people who want to join it. The Israeli have been bombing and killing Palestinians since the inception, and guess what, they're still fighting today. This is just the rocket attacks so far this year. List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2017 - Wikipedia

If killing the terrorists was the answer, don't you think it would have worked by now for Israel?

People have to want to live together, before they can. If one half of the equation doesn't want to, then peace is not an option. Go into Afghanistan if you want. Kill all the Terrorists you want. We have people looking to retire from the military in the next few years who literally joined after 9-11 and have spent their entire careers fighting and have accomplished jack shit. The names change, but the game remains the same.

In the meantime, we're fighting and killing the sons, nephews, and kids from the neighborhoods of the first bunch of idiots we killed.

We won't win. Well, I suppose we could nuke the region and turn it into a glass parking lot, but short of that, no. We could amend the constitution and show that Islam is not a protected religion, and that would hurt for a while, and might help in the long run, it's hard to say.

Make no mistake. We are not fighting for victory, we're fighting to keep from admitting that we lost.
 
I disagree. First what is victory in Afghanistan? We don't want to lose. But what is the victory going to look like? We have no idea. We are clueless. We want to end the Islamic Terror, but how the hell do you drag a bunch of people stuck in the seventh century into modern secular society? Victory is impossible. We can't win in less than a century. John McCain was right about that. We have to being modern civilization and education to the people, and it will take three or four generations to make a dent.

We are throwing good money and lives after the bad. All so we don't have to admit we lost. The best we can hope for is Nixons peace with honor which lasted about a year until the North came down and won.

One day we will be forced to leave Afghanistan. We will blame liberals and whoever we want. But the truth is that you can't conquer a people who won't quit. More people wasted. More money wasted. All so we can fight not to lose.


Are you familiar with General MacArthur forcing the Japanese to alter their religion as a result of the military conflict?
 
Under Obama's ROE's our troops had to let the enemy sneak up on them and fire their RPG's, only after the enemy blew up our soldiers could they fire back at the enemy.
 
I disagree. First what is victory in Afghanistan? We don't want to lose. But what is the victory going to look like? We have no idea. We are clueless. We want to end the Islamic Terror, but how the hell do you drag a bunch of people stuck in the seventh century into modern secular society? Victory is impossible. We can't win in less than a century. John McCain was right about that. We have to being modern civilization and education to the people, and it will take three or four generations to make a dent.

We are throwing good money and lives after the bad. All so we don't have to admit we lost. The best we can hope for is Nixons peace with honor which lasted about a year until the North came down and won.

One day we will be forced to leave Afghanistan. We will blame liberals and whoever we want. But the truth is that you can't conquer a people who won't quit. More people wasted. More money wasted. All so we can fight not to lose.


Are you familiar with General MacArthur forcing the Japanese to alter their religion as a result of the military conflict?
We didn't defeat Afghanistan after we were attacked by naval and land forces of their empire..
 
So now he wants to negotiate with the Taliban LOL. Too much winning.
 

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