Former BP employee sold border wall keys to drug cartel

[justoffal]

But, I thought Trump said a big beautiful wall would solve all our immigration problems. Did he lie?

No one has ever said that. Did you just come out of a coma?

He did. He rattles off a bunch of bs and lies about illegals then says the solution is the wall. Hes done it in dozens of speeches.

The wall doesnt remove 10m+ illegals already here. It doesnt stop drugs. -PERIOD-

All a wall does is inhibit the dumbest, laziest, and weakest illegals. Which is something. But the rest will find a way, including the real criminals, traffickers, and anyone with money for bribes or improved logisitcs.

Dont read this like the rest of the retarded right and punditry does. I'm not anti border security like their lies spew. I'm a realist and a good solution involves compromise that probably most of the extreme partisans from both sides in Congress are unwillingly to make.

If walls dont work, why are all these people being stopped by a fence?

Of course they work...these people are just stupid and too proud to use common sense.

JO

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

No it wouldn't. People aren't cows. They can learn how to climb, get through, go under, or go around things. Especially when fleeing violence or starvation.

A wall or barrier, if you will, certainly works very well in San Diego. No one disputes that.

Leftist idiot liars would have people believe that walls don't work. They do all over the world and they have worked all throughout history where ever they've been tried.

 

[MAGAman]

But, I thought Trump said a big beautiful wall would solve all our immigration problems. Did he lie?

You know he didn't say that.

You lied

 

[BlackFlag]

No it wouldn't. People aren't cows. They can learn how to climb, get through, go under, or go around things. Especially when fleeing violence or starvation.

A wall or barrier, if you will, certainly works very well in San Diego. No one disputes that.

Leftist idiot liars would have people believe that walls don't work. They do all over the world and they have worked all throughout history where ever they've been tried.

Oh well you’re dotard is a master negotiator who should easily be able to convince people of that then, right?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Oh well you’re dotard is a master negotiator who should easily be able to convince people of that then, right?

Maybe in a high school debate club exercise. Duh....

The left knows that walls are efficient barriers that stop the vast majority of people trying to enter the country illegally. And they already agreed to provide money for security walls during the Obama years. Democrats Approved $500 Million for Border Wall... In Middle East - Geller Report

They just won't give in to a political rival like Donald Trump and approve money for a wall for this nation purely as a matter of partisan politics in a power play that robs the nation of the security it could provide if the democrats weren't more concerned with their own personal power than the country's good.

But even you know all this, or should know.

 

[BlackFlag]

Oh well you’re dotard is a master negotiator who should easily be able to convince people of that then, right?

Maybe in a high school debate club exercise. Duh....

The left knows that walls are efficient barriers that stop the vast majority of people trying to enter the country illegally. And they already agreed to provide money for security walls during the Obama years. Democrats Approved $500 Million for Border Wall... In Middle East - Geller Report

They just won't give in to a political rival like Donald Trump and approve money for a wall for this nation purely as a matter of partisan politics in a power play that robs the nation of the security it could provide if the democrats weren't more concerned with their own personal power than the country's good.

But even you know all this, or should know.

Trump came in out of nowhere demanding a massive, expensive wall without knowing or caring if it would have any effect. Remember all that bluster about how easy it would be to repeal and replace the ACA? Then we get that famous line “nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated.” Really, only Trump didn’t know, because he didn’t care. Same thing with the wall. A total vanity project. Build some barriers of you want. That won’t solve anything either.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Trump came in out of nowhere demanding a massive, expensive wall without knowing or caring if it would have any effect. Remember all that bluster about how easy it would be to repeal and replace the ACA? Then we get that famous line “nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated.” Really, only Trump didn’t know, because he didn’t care. Same thing with the wall. A total vanity project. Build some barriers of you want. That won’t solve anything either.

Only someone who was really disingenuous and disregarding facts would try to claim that solving America's health care
problem was remotely like putting up a border barrier.

Obama and the democrats were cool with border walls. Why is Donald Trump catching so much flak from dishonest leftists because he wants what we helped Jordan get?
I know you have no rational answer.

 

[BlackFlag]

Trump came in out of nowhere demanding a massive, expensive wall without knowing or caring if it would have any effect. Remember all that bluster about how easy it would be to repeal and replace the ACA? Then we get that famous line “nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated.” Really, only Trump didn’t know, because he didn’t care. Same thing with the wall. A total vanity project. Build some barriers of you want. That won’t solve anything either.

Only someone who was really disingenuous and disregarding facts would try to claim that solving America's health care
problem was remotely like putting up a border barrier.

Obama and the democrats were cool with border walls. Why is Donald Trump catching so much flak from dishonest leftists because he wants what we helped Jordan get?
I know you have no rational answer.

You just compared Jordan to the U.S. You should look up what “rational” means

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You just compared Jordan to the U.S. You should look up what “rational” means

I could compare the US to any nation in the world when it comes to means of securing one's borders.
How 65 countries have erected security walls on their borders | Daily Mail Online

You have no idea what is rational and not.

 

[BlackFlag]

You just compared Jordan to the U.S. You should look up what “rational” means

I could compare the US to any nation in the world when it comes to means of securing one's borders.
How 65 countries have erected security walls on their borders | Daily Mail Online

You have no idea what is rational and not.

And we are one of them. A thousand miles or so. How’s illegal immigration doing after that?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

And we are one of them. A thousand miles or so. How’s illegal immigration doing after that?

What a non sequitur. Who is suggesting a border barrier would instantly make all our immigration woes go away?

You obviously have nothing of interest or value to add....just like all the other whiny leftist trolls.

 

[BlackFlag]

What a non sequitur. Who is suggesting a border barrier would instantly make all our immigration woes go away?

Trump and all you retards

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Okay. I'm through keeping you company now. Catch me some other time.

 

[justoffal]

No it wouldn't. People aren't cows. They can learn how to climb, get through, go under, or go around things. Especially when fleeing violence or starvation.

A wall or barrier, if you will, certainly works very well in San Diego. No one disputes that.

Leftist idiot liars would have people believe that walls don't work. They do all over the world and they have worked all throughout history where ever they've been tried.

If the Mongols had to pay bribe money to get through....obviously it's because they couldn't physically overcome the wall.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Wall has already been built, Trump already said so....and mexico paid for it the minute Trump told them to, because he is strong and manly and stuff...

So since the wall is already built, Trump did what he said -- this other money is just to make the wall "wally'er"

 

[Dana7360]

All that wall is, is an excuse to not do what will actually work.

What will actually work to prevent undocumented people from coming here is no job.

Conservatives say they are the law and order party, which is a lie, but they sure are choosy what criminals they prosecute.

Every employer who hires an undocumented worker is a criminal. Yet I don't hear even one word from trump or conservatives about prosecuting those criminals. I don't hear one word about holding all those criminal employers accountable for their crimes. I don't see trump or any conservative take any steps to bring those criminals to justice. I don't hear one word from them calling for those criminals to be held accountable for their crimes.

All we need to do is pass a law that requires mandatory 10 years for every undocumented worker any employer hires then actually send a couple of them to prison for the crime and no other company or employer will ever hire an undocumented worker.

Make it a crime to not use the E Verify system and require a person to be in prison for at least 5 years for not using the system.

Then as we do with drugs, take all their money and property from them. We take money and property from people for drugs we should do the same to those who give our jobs to undocumented workers.

If there is no job, undocumented people won't come here.

That will work and it won't cost tens of billions of dollars.

 

[Godboy]

Trump came in out of nowhere demanding a massive, expensive wall without knowing or caring if it would have any effect. Remember all that bluster about how easy it would be to repeal and replace the ACA? Then we get that famous line “nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated.” Really, only Trump didn’t know, because he didn’t care. Same thing with the wall. A total vanity project. Build some barriers of you want. That won’t solve anything either.

Only someone who was really disingenuous and disregarding facts would try to claim that solving America's health care
problem was remotely like putting up a border barrier.

Obama and the democrats were cool with border walls. Why is Donald Trump catching so much flak from dishonest leftists because he wants what we helped Jordan get?
I know you have no rational answer.

You just compared Jordan to the U.S. You should look up what “rational” means

"Rational" isnt you or your pitiful arguments against the wall.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Why bother? Just slip a $100 bill to the BP guy with the key...

If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it. You arent making very good arguments to support your position.

Well, now, Einstein, this guy gave the keys to the cartels 10 YEARS AGO, and they are just now figuring it out. Why the hell does "...everybody have to do it" ? People have been walking through the wall for 10 years, and you call me "stupid"? Let me guess. You voted for Trump!

Millions have crossed, so how many do you think used that set of keys?

Millions have crossed, at least half of whom overstayed legitimate visas, and another 25% smuggled through in autos and trucks, through entry ports, while still other came through tunnels, boats, airplanes, and climbing over the walls, not to mention those that came in by bribing a BP guy in the middle of nowhere. How many would your $25 billion dollar environmental disaster of a wall stop?

Did you make those numbers up or is a link on its way?

I'm not interested in providing proof to you of what is already common knowledge. Especially since you are not going to get the wall anyway.

 

[Vandalshandle]

...and he did it 10 years ago.

And, for those who do not know history, they are condemned to repeat it. The Mongols bribed their way through the Chinese Great Wall, and then ruled China for 450 years. But that is not going to happen to Trump's wall is it?

CBP agent gave drug trafficking organization keys to fences along the southern border, DOJ says

------------------------------------------------ what was his name V.S. ??

IT's a very poor parallel. The biggest danger to the wall is here in the US with the corrupt politicians who are on the receiving end of the cartel money. The invaders do not have military dominance like the mongols did over the Chinese empiric forces. In fact If I was Mexico I would worry more about the opposite happening. I have long been and advocate for taking both Canada and Mexico by force....sorry It's just my opinion. Not a damn thing they could do to stop us.

JO

Damn! if I had known that you were bat shit crazy, I would have put you on ignore long ago!

 

[justoffal]

All that wall is, is an excuse to not do what will actually work.

What will actually work to prevent undocumented people from coming here is no job.

Conservatives say they are the law and order party, which is a lie, but they sure are choosy what criminals they prosecute.

Every employer who hires an undocumented worker is a criminal. Yet I don't hear even one word from trump or conservatives about prosecuting those criminals. I don't hear one word about holding all those criminal employers accountable for their crimes. I don't see trump or any conservative take any steps to bring those criminals to justice. I don't hear one word from them calling for those criminals to be held accountable for their crimes.

All we need to do is pass a law that requires mandatory 10 years for every undocumented worker any employer hires then actually send a couple of them to prison for the crime and no other company or employer will ever hire an undocumented worker.

Make it a crime to not use the E Verify system and require a person to be in prison for at least 5 years for not using the system.

Then as we do with drugs, take all their money and property from them. We take money and property from people for drugs we should do the same to those who give our jobs to undocumented workers.

If there is no job, undocumented people won't come here.

That will work and it won't cost tens of billions of dollars.

If they can't get employment yes a large percentage of them would stay home.
Not all of them however. The cartel business is the single most potent enterprise that the border penetration supports.... To include drugs, cash transport and human trafficking .
A wall is needed.

Jo