For the UMPTEENTH TIME will someone tell me these events didn't occur????

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After posting this many times... NOT ONE of you have especially the Bush Bashers... HAVE REFUTED these FACTS!
Why not? I thought Bush was an idiot! I thought ALL Obama's problems caused by Dumbya!
WHY then if all these events occurred are you especially Conservatives still Bashing Bush as a "drunken sailor"?
I'd frankly expect the idiot Bush Bashers to NOT want to remember these events but you conservatives...

PLEASE ONCE and for all, comprehend the enormity of the below events!
Space limits me to explain the three components of the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act that ACTUALLY has been REDUCING the percent of growth in Medicare! Yet idiots and conservatives alike the only thing you know is the Drug component!

I can tell you if it weren't for the 2003 Modernization Act,
I personally would have had since I started on Medicare had to pay over $6,000 more for Medicare!

TELL me these events DIDN"T OCCUR?? Remember I'm not making this up! Check the sources!!!

DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value.. this means every year for 30 years now starting in 2000 the federal revenue is over $20 billion written off against taxes owed.
How many people LOST jobs due to the bust??
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Did YOU forget that 9/11 occurred and it cost $2 trillion over the next 30 years again $8 billion will NOT BE PAiD.. was that Bush's fault?
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade

DID THIS HAPPEN??
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
Of the top 36 hurricanes since 1926--- 13 occurred from 2001 to 2008! 13 hurricanes..
Of the total of $316 billion in damages these 13 cost 58% of that or $156 billion.
# 1Katrina (LA/MS/AL/SE FL) 2005 3 $81,000,000,000
# 3 through 7 hurricanes occurred from 2001 to 2008!
Costliest U.S. Hurricanes | Weather Underground
The worst Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. Andrew slammed into South Florida in 1992 as a Category 5. It caused 40 deaths and $30 billion in property damage. More than 250,000 people were left homeless and 82,000 businesses were destroyed or damaged.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.

400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.

Almost 1 million jobs alone from those 3 events

All of this while having almost $60 billion a year in reduced tax revenue due to the above losses !

FACT! The HIGHEST gross REVENUE to the Federal Government in HISTORY..

2007 2,567,985,000 Revenues ; Expenses:$2,728,686,000 -160,701 deficit decline

Historical Tables | The White House

  • Year Receipts Outlays Surplus or Deficit (–)
  • 2000 2,025,191 1,788,950 236,241
  • 2001 1,991,082 1,862,846 128,236 Dot.com Bust, 9/11, Recession
  • 2002 1,853,136 2,010,894 -157,758
  • 2003 1,782,314 2,159,899 -377,585 tax cuts took affect worst hurricanes SEASONS in history
  • 2004 1,880,114 2,292,841 -412,727 biggest deficit..,, worst hurricanes SEASONS in history
  • 2005 2,153,611 2,471,957 -318,346 deficit decline,,worst hurricanes SEASONS in history
  • 2006 2,406,869 2,655,050 -248,181 deficit decline,,worst hurricanes SEASONS in history
  • 2007 2,567,985 2,728,686 -160,701 deficit decline
  • 2008 2,523,991 2,982,544 -458,553 housing bubble

Gross Domestic Product Largest in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

Bush growth of the GDP was greater then Clinton in 2005 GDP grew at 6.5% Clinton's best:6.4%
Measuring Worth - Measures of worth, inflation rates, saving calculator, relative value, worth of a dollar, worth of a pound, purchasing power, gold prices, GDP, history of wages, average wage

NOW would any of you ..... Please refute THESE FACTS!!! Please tell me NONE of this occurred!
 
YET idiots still DON"T comprehend the above events!

For those of you that don't comprehend TAX LOSS carryovers...FACT!

If your investments have performed poorly and your loss exceeds the limit, you can still take advantage of the write- off feature of capital losses by the use of capital loss carryover.
If your loss is greater than $3,000 (or $1,500), you can carry the excess losses over to future years.
There is no limit to the number of years that you can carry losses forward. You can continue to carry forward until the losses are completely exhausted.
Capital Losses: They're Just as Ugly as They Sound - What Is Capital Loss? - Epinions.com

With $8 trillion in losses from dot.com/9/11/worst hurricanes... there has been billions of taxes that would have been paid but because of
the above ARE NOT paid... Not Obama's Fault! And especially NOT Bush's FAULT!
I mean get real... you tin-foils that think Bush planted bombs at WTC possible but dot.com bust? Hurricanes? If anyone could be blamed it is someone that well here let the Editor of NewsWeek identify:

"Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do." -- Evan Thomas responding to a question on whether the media's unfair to Bush on the TV talk show Inside Washington, February 2, 2007.

BUT when it comes to Obama???

"I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God." –

Just an aside... what happened to "Bashing President Obama" Mr. Thomas???
Evan Thomas on Hardball, June 5, 2009.
 
Let's see, under Bush almost 1 million jobs were lost due to circumstances beyond his control. On the other hand, the Great Recession that started under Bush caused the loss of nearly 7.5 million jobs, yet Obama is to blame for that. :cuckoo:
 
The lowest point reached by the US Stock Market in the 'Great Recession' occurred on or about March 9, 2009. George W Bush left office on January 20th, 2009. By March most market participants had gotten a very good, hard look at Comrade Barack Hussein Obama's inner Marxist, decided they didn't like what they saw and sold their holdings. It was only as a result of Federal Reserve Chairman and Bush Appointee Ben Bernanke's bringing real interest rates to near zero that the free fall in the markets was halted.

Barack Obama still clings tightly to his inner Marxist "If you own a successful business, you didn't build that" meanwhile encouraging other aspiring Marxists in Congress like Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison to express their own conclusions "There's plenty of money around. Its just that the US Government doesn't have its hands on it yet" which was ironically almost syllable for syllable identical to an utterance by French Socialist President Francoise Hollande, shortly before Monsieur Hollande began work on imposing his seventy per cent income tax on the French People.

There's a corollary in a letter that floated around the net for a day or so after the Zimmerman not guilty verdict by a gentleman who quite reasonably decided he didn't want to accept a job offer in Sanfold, Fl if it required his hiring an armed guard to protect his tools and equipment from theft by the locals while he performed his services. He concluded, by extension, that excessive levels of crime, of itself, breeds poverty because capitalists are not likely to commit the necessary sheckels to start up a business if they perceive their profits will largely be stolen from them continuously on a daily basis. Capitalists are apt to very quickly reach the same conclusion, and act similarly, if they anticipate the government will be likewise stealing their investment scheckels from them as well.
 
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NO Obama NEVER blamed for the lost jobs that were NEVER LOST by Bush!

But the major major issue is Obama is CAUSING jobs to be LOST !
FACTS..
Environmental Protection Agency regulations will contribute to projected shutdowns of up to 69,000 megawatts of coal-fueled electric generation and job losses of up to 887,000 jobs per year, according to a report.

Total compliance costs for the electric sector could be up to $220 billion, with annual costs as high as $16.7 billion per year.
Read more: Rpt: EPA regulations could mean 887,000 jobs lost per year | The Daily Caller

DO you honestly think BUSH would want to have the EPA cause 887,000 jobs lost which is what Obama's doing!

Environmental Protection Agency regulations will contribute to projected shutdowns of up to 69,000 megawatts of coal-fueled electric generation and job losses of up to 887,000 jobs per year, according to a report.

Total compliance costs for the electric sector could be up to $220 billion, with annual costs as high as $16.7 billion per year.

Read more: Rpt: EPA regulations could mean 887,000 jobs lost per year | The Daily Caller

I don't BLAME OBAMA for the job losses any more then I blame Bush!
I DO though BLAME Obama for instead of creating a climate to CREATE jobs he's destroying JOBS!
Obamacare..
THAT is reducing businesses desire to hire full time!
Medical Device Tax
1,000 jobs lost: “Stryker Corporation Confirms Obamacare Layoffs.”
275 jobs lost: “Medical Device Tax Blamed for Welch Allyn Layoffs.”
100 jobs lost: “Latest Obamacare Casualty: 100 Workers at Smith and Nephew.”
The 2.3 percent excise tax on the sale of medical devices, one of the 18 tax hikes in Obamacare, is estimated to cost the industry over $29 billion between 2013 and 2022. Many employers in the industry are compensating for the tax hike by reducing their labor costs.
Medicare Payment Cuts
950 jobs lost: “Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center Reengineers Cost Structure, Eliminate Positions.”
Up to 400 jobs lost: “Orlando Health to Cut Record Number of Jobs to Save Money.”
52 Jobs lost: “Delaware Hospice Lays Off 52 Workers amid Federal Changes.”
58 jobs lost: “Hospital Layoffs and the Affordable Hea[l]th Care Act.”
Obamacare and the Labor Supply

AGAIN NOT Blaming Obama for the jobs that were lost...
BUT OBAMA is NOT helping but discouraging job creation with the above!!!
 
The lowest point reached by the US Stock Market in the 'Great Recession' occurred on or about March 9, 2009. George W Bush left office on January 20th, 2009. By March most market participants had gotten a very good, hard look at Comrade Barack Hussein Obama's inner Marxist, decided they didn't like what they saw and sold their holdings. It was only as a result of Federal Reserve Chairman and Bush Appointee Ben Bernanke's bringing real interest rates to near zero that the free fall in the markets was halted.

Barack Obama still clings tightly to his inner Marxist "If you own a successful business, you didn't build that" meanwhile encouraging other aspiring Marxists in Congress like Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison to express their own conclusions "There's plenty of money around. Its just that the US Government doesn't have its hands on it yet" which was ironically almost syllable for syllable identical to an utterance by French Socialist President Francoise Hollande, shortly before Monsieur Hollande began work on imposing his seventy per cent income tax on the French People.

There's a corollary in a letter that flaoted around the net for a day or so after the Zimmerman not guilty verdict by a gentleman who quite reasonably decided he didn't want to accept a job offer in Sanfold, Fl if it required his hiring an armed guard to protect his tools and equipment from theft by the locals while he performed his services. He concluded, by extension, that excessive levels of crime, of itself, breeds poverty because capitalists are not likely to commit the necessary sheckels to start up a business if they perceive their profits will largely be stolen from them continuously on a daily basis. Capitalists are apt to very quickly reach the same conclusion, and act similarly, if they anticipate the government will be likewise stealing their investment scheckels from them as well.

If what you states was even remotely true, then there is no way that the market would have more than doubled in the past four years, even with some governmental intervention. Your argument has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.
 
Bush Legacy

9-11 attacks?.....Bush did not keep us safe
Gave up the war on terror to invade Iraq
No WMDs
Botched Afghanistan and Iraq
Flubbed Katrina
Engaged in Torture
Botched criminal charges against Gitmo detainees
Stood by while the economy collapsed
 
Bush Legacy

9-11 attacks?.....Bush did not keep us safe--bubba forgot to tell him about his terrorist flight training program
Gave up the war on terror to invade Iraq---obabble cant do one thing at once
No WMDs--low information claim
Botched Afghanistan and Iraq--no facts say "botched"
Flubbed Katrina--overestimated the local negro leadership.
Engaged in Torture--good for him.
Botched criminal charges against Gitmo detainees--no facts,say botched
Stood by while the economy collapsed
--stood next to barney and chris...
 
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Bush Legacy

9-11 attacks?.....Bush did not keep us safe
Gave up the war on terror to invade Iraq
No WMDs
Botched Afghanistan and Iraq
Flubbed Katrina
Engaged in Torture
Botched criminal charges against Gitmo detainees
Stood by while the economy collapsed
9-11 attacks?.....Bush did not keep us safe
re you claiming here that Bush planned 9-11, or was a victim of it? I just need to make sure. ;)


Gave up the war on terror to invade Iraq
Wasn't Iraq a magnet for Jihadists which worked well for both them and us? Weren't they pissed when Iraq quieted down, and they had to use up all those travel miles before getting their 72 Virgins? I'm confused now. :confused:


yet they were so well armed. How come now a pressure cooker bomb is called a WMD? Again, I'm confused. :confused:


Botched Afghanistan and Iraq
The actual invasion was a marvel, unparalleled in history. Wake up call for all concerned.
Oh, you mean the rebuilding, the aftermath and rebuilding which came later? What does the State Department have to say about their plan, there? What plan? That does sum it up pretty well, huh. ;) What Flag do they salute, again? I forget? The UN flag? The NWO flag? Have we seen that one yet?

Afghanistan? Who changed the plan there? Pakistan? Who is at the wheel? Whatever happens, Do Not Wake Up the President!!! :eek: ;) ;) ;)


Flubbed Katrina
How long did it take the Governor of Louisiana to sign the necessary papers to transfer authority to the Feds? How much of the damage done by State controlled FEMA Liaisons was blamed on FEMA? In the build up before and during the storm, who was mocking the head of FEMA for telling the People to Evacuate? How many were found dead in their attics as a result of not evacuating when they could? How many did the newly subsidized Coast Guard, as a result of their new powers and resources in relation to The Patriot Act, rescue?

Was Bush threatening rescuers at gunpoint? Did Bush order most of the New Orleans Police Force to abandon their posts? Did Bush give the order to shut down the radio transmission tower? Did Bush design flood pumps that would fail when submerged?


Engaged in Torture
Really? How many? What exactly was done? Are there tapes of record? Consider that with anything, there are different degrees. Tickling can be fun. It can be abused to the point of being torture. When I watch MSNBC, with the volume loud enough to hear the dialog, I feel tortured. Does that qualify? How about riding on the E or F or 7 trains during rush hours? That's torture. Surely no one is monitoring how many people are squashed into those cars. How about threatening IRS audits? Is that torture?


Botched criminal charges against Gitmo detainees
:lol: Seek help. I know, let's give every prisoner found on a battle field, every Illegal combatant, and Terrorist's engaged in acts of War against the US, a Public Trial at our expense, and let's put it on TV to make them more famous. That won't feed the numbers of Terrorist wanna be's at all. ;) Only Bush policies do that. ;) Idiot.

Stood by while the economy collapsed
When? After 9-11? No. Not at all. Obama did not face anything like that in his life. Few People have, from Bush's position. Pretty remarkable comeback. Obama isn't close to capable to managing something like that. Bush's last year was sand bagged by a Democratic Congress, more interested in increasing Federal spending than even balancing a budget. Funny how they cannot even come up with a budget since. Why is that, again?
 
There is an idiot writing me a personal message ignorantly disputing the $8 trillion in losses didn't affect tax revenue!
This idiot doesn't seem to understand some simple business facts!
Nearly 1 million jobs were lost in Dot.com/9/11 and hurricanes.
The Average job in USA pays $30,000 a year. 1 million jobs at $30k is $30 billion a year..
NOW at 13% which is what employer/employee PAY in SS/Medicare equals $3.9 billion a year NOT PAID INTO the government!

But this idiot further disputes the $8 trillion in losses focusing ONLY on the quote "paper" losses!
GEEZ even at $8 trillion discounted by 75% and divided by 30 years the maximum people can WRITE off these losses.
That was equal to $26 billion a year in tax payments to the government!

YOU idiots that don't seem to comprehend WHAT affect on the economy $8 trillion in losses, 1 million in jobs, 30,000 businesses destroyed or reduced from dot.com/9/11 and hurricanes... YOU are just dumb!
 
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Bush Legacy

9-11 attacks?.....Bush did not keep us safe
Gave up the war on terror to invade Iraq
No WMDs
Botched Afghanistan and Iraq
Flubbed Katrina
Engaged in Torture
Botched criminal charges against Gitmo detainees
Stood by while the economy collapsed

Since I recognize you from better threads, is there a purpose to this thread of unintelligible gibberish?
 
Bush Legacy

9-11 attacks?.....Bush did not keep us safe
Gave up the war on terror to invade Iraq
No WMDs
Botched Afghanistan and Iraq
Flubbed Katrina
Engaged in Torture
Botched criminal charges against Gitmo detainees
Stood by while the economy collapsed

Since I recognize you from better threads, is there a purpose to this thread of unintelligible gibberish?

I couldn't tell you

Once I see his multi-font, multi-color rants, I stop reading
 
healthmyths cannot accept the responsibility for the far right GOP disaster that resulted from its mistakes of 1994 to 2006 with complacent minority Democrats' assistance.

The history, hm, is never going to change. You are wrong.
 
healthmyths cannot accept the responsibility for the far right GOP disaster that resulted from its mistakes of 1994 to 2006 with complacent minority Democrats' assistance.

The history, hm, is never going to change. You are wrong.

OH I and others accepted the responsibility that Clinton's Gorelick Memo let through the 9/11 bombers! That is a fact!
And we had to clean up the dot.com mess that Clinton's supposed "budget surplus" evaporated when the $5 trillion was lost!
And NO one was responsible for the hurricanes again but you idiots DON"T remember any of that do you?

Where were when the dot.com bust costs hundreds of thousands of jobs and $5 trillion in losses?
Or how about the jobs and businesses destroyed in 9/11? Airlines didn't fly for 3 days do you remember that?
What kind of losses did they rack up? Wall street was close 10 days and gain what kind of lost revenue and ultimately taxes vanished?

But idiots like you don't even know about financial issues like that much less ADMIT they occurred!
History will call Bush a GREAT President because while idiots like you laughed at him for encouraging shopping, encouraging returning to a normal... historians will recognize that and other aspects of Bush mark him for greatness!

Dolts,dummies like you are so totally uninformed. You believe like little kids everything the MSM printed as the truth and don't seem to comprehend that 85% of the MSM supports Democrats/Obama!
You are so ignorant it is disgraceful!
 
The financial disaster arises from 1994 to 2006 because of a bad GOP congress facilitated by helping Democrats, yes? Why can't you accept this basic fact?
 

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